r/PoursTea • u/Veshaad Timendi Causa Est Nescire • Aug 30 '26
PositiviTea š What matters most is the message, not the messenger.
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u/mcclaneberg Aug 30 '26
Praying for something is just really hoping for it to happen. Thatās all it is.
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u/MetaCardboard Aug 30 '26
And if we're all hoping for prosperity for ourselves and others then it means we agree on what we want. Now we just have to work to get there.
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u/PickleRickleTV Aug 30 '26
Itās also putting concious thought towards something. If I pray to let go of my fear, Iām consciously aligning myself with achieving that. If Iām praying for others, Iām consciously thinking of others and moving the focus from myself.
Will praying alone actually enact change? No. But prayer and action can be powerful, even just considering the practical aspect of it. Even if itās to get me outside of myself and thinking of others.
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u/mcclaneberg Aug 30 '26
If I hope to let go of my fear, I'm consciously aligning myself with achieving that. If I'm hoping for others, I'm consciously thinking of others and moving the focus from myself.
Will hoping alone actually enact change? No. But hope and action can be powerful. even just considering the practical aspect of it. Even if it's to get me outside of myself and thinking of others.
We agree!
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u/jnd2701 Aug 30 '26
If you dont have hope you dont have action. If people dont believe something can happen they wont even start trying.
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u/mcclaneberg Aug 30 '26
sure, so just have hope, and then act.
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u/jnd2701 Aug 30 '26
Bro not everyone's brain functions the same as yours. Some people prefer to organize goals through prayer even if they dont consciously know they're doing it. There's nothing wrong inherently with being religious. There's extremists that take it too far. Some use it to cope with the various stresses of life to carry the burdens they have so they dont stuff a shotgun down their windpipe. In the current state of things the last thing im gonna criticize is people wanting to pray to a higher power that seems moral when it seems like so much else is catered towards the immoral.
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u/mcclaneberg Aug 30 '26
Whoās criticizing?
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u/jnd2701 Aug 30 '26
You. Your first statement is criticizing praying as just hoping. Belittling in tone. Jaded even.
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u/Adventurous_Ad7442 Aug 30 '26
Not the way that Conservative Muslims pray.
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u/mcclaneberg Aug 30 '26
Yeah people who force others to say they believe the same by violence and subjugation in general suck.
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u/GIT_45 Aug 30 '26
This guy is making MAGA terrified. š¤£ They're shaking in their oversized boots.
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u/WillyWankerWonker Aug 31 '26
Terrified we scoff is disgusting that this is what the left has come toĀ
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u/Thee-Cat Aug 30 '26
The guy who prays in gender segregated mosques, with his wife in her head covering relegated to the back area, scares equally misogynistic MAGA? Wait, wut? š
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u/frankspliff Aug 30 '26
Not really. With these new flaky fringe candidates Republicans actually stand a chance. We will see, time will tell.
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u/duskygrouper Aug 30 '26
No way they will win against Abdul. You'll see.
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u/frankspliff Aug 30 '26
A primary is one thing the general is a whole different story. Who knows.
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u/duskygrouper Aug 30 '26
I am very optimistic about him, but we will see.
Just think about Obama. The made the same fuzz about him and he is still the most popular president.
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u/TheJQHQ Aug 31 '26
AES is genuinely retarded. Mike Rogers sucks, but he's going to blow out this incompetent terrorist supporter in November.
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u/willsmithtunaface Aug 30 '26
Another American who's scared of taxes he won't ever have to pay
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u/jm17lfc Aug 30 '26
These kinds of people would prefer paying 1000 for medication to a corporation than 10 dollars for medication to the government just ābecause that raises their taxes.ā
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u/GhostofTinky Aug 30 '26
Another dude who thinks all brown people look alike. š
Thatās Abdul El Syed, genius.
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u/random8765309 Aug 30 '26
The FRESH program in NYC has put in place 30 grocery stores in the city. They did so in a way that wont push other stores out of business, doesn't have the government on the hook for paying for groceries, doesn't force socialistic government control over what brands and products are offered, and doesn't have the government set prices.
Yet he gets a huge amount of press for just proposing 5 stores.
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u/aintmesum1else Aug 30 '26
I know we are all praying for the end of the 8th year.
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u/ManReay Aug 30 '26
But we wouldn't turn our noses up at impeachment sooner.
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u/jnd2701 Aug 30 '26
Impeachment doesnt count if he doesn't fucking leave lmaoooo
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u/ManReay Aug 30 '26
Gonna hold up in his bunker with his diaper-changer? lmaoooo
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u/jnd2701 Aug 30 '26
Idk i just know that dude isnt leaving without being forced out at this pointššš
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u/DruidicMagic Aug 30 '26
The Fourth Reich did a bang up job weaponizing religion to help hide their racist beliefs.
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u/ElBongoloide Aug 30 '26
Americans just can't seem to leave their bigotry behind... it's their security blanket, and it excuses all the fuckery the US has historically gotten up to.
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u/mtjb24 Aug 31 '26
Santa Maria!!, a 1 month old account with 714 contributionsā¦ Yes all 343 million of us are bigots!! With a lead in like that, how do you expect anyone to listen to you?
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u/ElBongoloide Aug 31 '26
No... not all, of course... but a good chunk, for sure. I really don't care who listens... but, given that so many listen to the outrageously stupid hogwash that Trump, Fox News, et al. (those imbeciles make me sound downright erudite and wise in comparison) utter, I think my chances are better than average.
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u/merkmerc Aug 30 '26
Is there anyway to report these bot accounts or does Reddit want them here? Clearly fake acct here
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u/GameGreek Aug 30 '26
When you're actually more concerned with the amount of people praying to imaginary friends then asking for concrete plans on how to fix our problems and prosecute all the wealthy child predators
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u/jnd2701 Aug 30 '26
He has info on that as well. But he has to win at least some of the Christian vote if he wants to get elected. You have to present yourself to more than just one audience. Unfortunately some do not listen to logical persuasionas much as they listen to emotion persuasion.
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u/GameGreek Aug 30 '26
Yeah no I understand. But it still worries me the amount of magical thinking people have. There is information and knowledge literally at the tip of our fingers and yet imaginary protectors are what's going to save us. This is worrying, to have people actively choose ignorance.
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u/jnd2701 Aug 30 '26
More proof of the mental health epidemic. Unfortunately not everyone has access to therapy be it because of financial reasons or others. But the mental does eventually affect physical.
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u/Bushw1ckbill Aug 30 '26
I think he's presented some concrete plans. Have you not researched his platform?
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u/GameGreek Aug 30 '26
Oh when I said the "amount of people" you thought that was singular and referring to him? Rather than it being plural and talking about a lot of people whispering their hopes into the air for imaginary friends to make come true. You nailed it.
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u/Suspicious-Lettuce48 Aug 30 '26
True. Christians these days pray that everyone else in the world feels hate and pain and suffering and death.
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u/Useful_Wealth7503 Aug 30 '26
You can hear his practiced Obama tone and meter voice as you read it.
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u/Bushw1ckbill Aug 30 '26
What's wrong with that?
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u/Useful_Wealth7503 Aug 30 '26
Just another manipulation technique. Several of them do it and it distracts from the authenticity of their message once you hear it. Shapiro, Mandami, Jeffries, that maniac AG from VA, itās just another tell of their inauthenticity. Good consultant work though.
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u/Bushw1ckbill Aug 30 '26
I don't get it. Can you explain in detail?
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u/Useful_Wealth7503 Aug 30 '26
Can you hear and recognize patterns? Are you aware of manipulation techniques?
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u/Bushw1ckbill Aug 30 '26
I guess not. Can you explain how he's manipulating people?
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u/Useful_Wealth7503 Aug 30 '26
True believer in the Kayfabe eh Comrade?
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u/Bushw1ckbill Aug 30 '26
What's the "kayfabe"?
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u/Useful_Wealth7503 Aug 30 '26
The Kayfabe is you little bot. The true believers that accept everything on face value, or pretend to I should say. They wont care about you in the end you know?
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u/Bushw1ckbill Aug 30 '26
And you failed to explain.
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u/Louie_Ck_NJ Aug 30 '26
Beautiful. But there is always the option to stop believing in invisible omnipotent wish granting magic genies all together!
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u/Zak_Rahman Aug 30 '26
The people who did that in my country are clowns who now form the alt right.
The celebs champion it like they're some kind of pope and then they get cancelled because they're just twats.
No thanks, keep that shit away from me.
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u/Thee-Cat Aug 30 '26
Well I mean you don't have to twist it all, mate. Just literally answer his very first statement, of HOW he prays(that he conveniently left unanswered), and the answer isn't great.
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u/Analogvinyl Aug 30 '26
He already enabled it by justifying religious violence against Jewish Americans because Israel killed a Hezbollah terrorist who has a brother in the US.
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u/Analogvinyl Aug 30 '26
You brought up wanting to know how Fox would spin it. Did you really want a different source like Sayed himself.
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u/Skittleavix Aug 30 '26
We all want these things. There are different paths to take to get there, and it doesn't matter which path we take to get there. As long as we get there.
Don't let the powerful convince you otherwise.
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u/Difficult-Garbage861 Aug 30 '26
He sends a good message and vibe. Unlike the guy who makes fun of others and calls people names. We need a leader for all again.
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u/Top-Plenty-5307 Aug 30 '26
I think that half the population believing in fairy tales is the problem. You cannot have a rational conversation with someone who bases their life on a fairy tale book that's full of hate
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u/Significant-Dog-8166 Aug 30 '26
Either do or do not do.
Prayer is worse than procrastination or unfulfilled promises. It is a commitment to do nothing, then give credit to fiction if other people make things happen.
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u/Medium_Ad_4568 Aug 30 '26
There is a huge difference between what he said and the idea that all children should be treated with love, regardless of their faith, rather than emphasizing the rejection of other faiths that exists to varying degrees in all Abrahamic religions, and particularly strongly in some of them. And what about non-religious kids? Even if that was what he meant, saying it explicitly would have cost him support. And that is sad. But that is the reality.
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u/Happy_Librarian_3817 Aug 30 '26
Such a message is either valid or invalidated by the actions of the messenger.
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u/EClucky13 Tea? Earl Grey, hot Aug 31 '26
As much as i agree with you, remember religion is still a hot button topic. As a NYer I saw this first hand with our mayoral run. Zohran Mamdani faced this from every angle and won! Doing an amazing job so far. Despite all his successes so far he is still hated by certain NYers just for his religion.
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u/BathFriendly3061 Aug 31 '26
For all that trust in this BS and his BS WAKE UP PEOPLE! He along with every other DSP candidate are just lying to all of us, more so then any other politician, just to get our votes. To get our votes to get rich. Never trust a politician that tells you how to pray and never trust a religious personnel that tells you how to vote. Don't be stupid and believe in all this guys flip flopping hype.
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u/Diligent_Custard2708 Aug 31 '26
I disagree because Platner had some good ideas but he was the wrong guy to carry it and now maine might not flip
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u/FilutaLoutenik Aug 31 '26
How about we donāt pray at all and actually DO something to help them?
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u/BluebirdDazzling8179 Aug 31 '26
Word's have zero meaning. Actions do. When people see who you really are you will fail.
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u/xanderdean1 Sep 01 '26
This guy isnsuch a clown . Beep booop beep. I pray for good things just like you do. That wasn't the question fuk head and you know it.
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u/Bastonge44 Sep 01 '26
Only in America can we have a gay Muslim running for senate and still scream about oppress! Lmao! Meanwhile back in durka durka land he would get fukn stoned to death.
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u/RickyBobbyPitCrew Sep 01 '26
The Right has been saying the same thing regarding Trump. He isnāt the best messenger because of his WWE style promotion and ego. However, no other President wants America to succeed more than him.
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u/Revolutionary_Mix983 Sep 02 '26
The he is an infidel. Not what the islamic cult book of murder, lying and war says
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u/anatomy-princess Aug 30 '26
Donāt just pray. We need to do good things for all. Actions matter
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u/MH297_UN Aug 30 '26
You missed the whole point of the post.
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u/anatomy-princess Aug 30 '26
I donāt think I did. I didnāt say not to pray. I am just calling for action as well
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u/Minute-Review6915 Aug 30 '26
But canāt state Jewish people have a right to exist. Somehow i doubt this post or statement
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u/Bushw1ckbill Aug 30 '26
When did he say they didn't? And what does representing the people of Michigan have to do with Israel or Jewish people in general? Is there some Jewish genocide happening in Michigan?
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u/Minute-Review6915 Aug 30 '26
He was literally asked in an interview and changed the subject. I didnāt say the state of Israel I said Jewish people. He refused to say they did.
So yes it affects anyone who is Jewish and lives in the state. Not that difficult to understand.
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u/Bushw1ckbill Aug 30 '26
What the does the right of Jewish people to exist have to do with running for Michigan senator? Have they asked Mike Rogers or any other white candidate this question?
Also, what magic power does Sayed have in determining the right of Jewish people to exist?
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u/Minute-Review6915 Aug 30 '26
So a group of people who are in fact his own constituents have to do with his belief if they should be allowed to exist on this earth have to do with it? Itās a straight forward question he refused to answer. You can pretend to be ignorant but his lack of answer has already made many Jews question his support against them as a group of people. Itās not that complex at all.
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u/duskygrouper Aug 30 '26 edited Aug 30 '26
Nobody is against the existence of jewish people, especcially not Abdul. What he didn't state is, that the israeli state hat a right to exist as an apartheid ethno-state. Which is correct and a view shared by many jews who value human rights and peace. Well, some republican neo-nazis actually have a problem with jews as people, but they equally hate muslims like Abdul.
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u/Minute-Review6915 Aug 30 '26
The questions was not Israeli state, it was do Jewish peopleā¦.. thereās a big difference. He knew the question. Heās either pandering to one side or truly believes they donāt. Either way thatās a non starter
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u/duskygrouper Aug 30 '26 edited Aug 30 '26
That did not happen. If it did, you certainly have a link to share?
Edit: thought so.
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u/Laup67 Aug 30 '26
A wolf in sheep clothing. Look what his religion has done to the UK and other countries. Scary no thanks
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u/Thee-Cat Aug 30 '26
"Most people don't ask HOW I pray..." El-Sayed
Yeah, that's probably for the best, or else you'd need to explain why you pray in GENDER SEGREGATED mosques with women relegated to cramped spaces in the back or not invited at all. Whoops.
Yeah, that would probably damage the whole "I'm so progressive" BS, wouldn't it?
ffs man. Why the hell are we entertaining 7th century archaic and misogynistic religions when we just started slowing the growth of Christianity in the West.
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u/Virgina-Wolfferine Tea Party š Aug 30 '26
I am so tired of the Sky Daddy being used in politics. I seriously donāt care about your wishes on a Star. I care about how youāre going to get the platform implemented, and a realistic timeline.
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u/random8765309 Aug 30 '26
There appears the socialist are pushing the positive PR on him extremely hard on Reddit. You can go 5 minutes without seeing this BS.
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u/ChiefOfTheBoat Aug 30 '26
Anti-American who canāt live up to the āuphold and defend ā part of the oath of office.
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u/hugoriffic Aug 30 '26
Who brought up Trump or his entire administration??
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u/ChiefOfTheBoat Aug 30 '26
Trump has some douche bag things under his belt, but at least he is an American. Al-Sayed has two strikes against him. Heās a socialist and a Muslim. Neither one is aligned with Constitutional principles.
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u/hugoriffic Aug 30 '26
āTwo strikesā because heās Muslim and supposedly a socialist? Thatās not a constitutional argument. Thatās racism, xenophobia, and bigotry with a faux Constitution sticker slapped on it.
Article VI explicitly says there can be no religious test for public office, so being Muslim is quite literally not a constitutional strike. And Al-Sayed identifies as a progressive and a capitalist, so calling him a socialist doesnāt become true just because you donāt like his policies. Youāll need to become more familiar with a politicianās policies and let your hatred of POC not blind you to the facts.
Youāre free to oppose Medicare for All or anything else he supports. But āMuslimā and a label youāve assigned him arenāt evidence that someone is unqualified or opposed to the Constitution. And āat least Trump is an Americanā is especially absurdāAl-Sayed is an American too.
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u/masheo Aug 30 '26
The US government held an emergency meeting to address allegations of corruption, cover-ups, and powerful people protecting sexual predators. After several hours, they emerged with a clear, bipartisan message: āWeāve investigated ourselves, protected everyone important, and reached the only conclusion Washington can agree on: fuck the kids.ā
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u/duskygrouper Aug 30 '26
That is what actually happened, except for the transparency. The started a war instead.
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u/Bushw1ckbill Aug 30 '26
I'm not religious but why is this a bad thing to pray for? Is praying to hit the lottery any better?
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u/ba-boo Aug 30 '26
sounds like OP would vote for Hitler
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u/hugoriffic Aug 30 '26
MAGA already has with Trump.
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u/ba-boo Aug 30 '26
not much of a difference between radical leftists and MAGAs, true
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u/hugoriffic Aug 30 '26
Yeah, radical leftists like Bernie, AOC, Mandhami, and the like want to help every American. MAGA wants to hurt anyone one who isnāt a white Christian male. I can see how youāre confused by that.
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u/ba-boo Aug 30 '26
pretty much all of DSA, correct. radical leftists want to hurt anyone who doesn't support arab terrorists
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u/Bushw1ckbill Aug 30 '26
Please elaborate.
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u/duskygrouper Aug 30 '26
He is racist. That is the explanation.
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u/Bushw1ckbill Aug 30 '26
How so?
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u/duskygrouper Aug 30 '26
You obviously know. Anyway: he is implying that Mamdani is a planing a muslim takeover of the US, which ist dumb and racist. Not sure though if more dumb or more racist.
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u/Bushw1ckbill Aug 30 '26
How are Muslim's going to takeover the US? Can you explain how that's going to happen? Thanks in advance!
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u/Bushw1ckbill Aug 30 '26
It was built on racism and the backs of poor white people who thought they were in the club.
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u/hugoriffic Aug 30 '26
Obviously you donāt understand any of the words you use.
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u/hugoriffic Aug 30 '26
You should be more concerned with the Christian Nationalists who are slowly gaining power under this administration vs some boogeyman that doesnāt exist.
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u/Bushw1ckbill Aug 30 '26
"While also giving a free pass to hezbollah and muslims, who supported and attacked israel"
When did he do this?
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u/Charming-Lychee-9031 Aug 30 '26
It's nice to hear a politician that can speak coherently and use complete sentences.