r/PoursTea • u/Timbucktwo1230 🫖 Mod ☕️ • Sep 14 '26

European Renaissance 🍾 🧀 🍻 🇬🇧The Future?

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u/Cpt_keaSar Sep 14 '26

England is proclaimed successor state of the UK with UNSC seat, debts and nukes going with it

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u/Plus_Key_2325 Sep 14 '26

No way debt England takes on all of it. It will be distributed or used as a bargaining chip for something else.

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u/kaetror Sep 14 '26

They looked at moving it to England before, literally nowhere is deemed suitable due to geography or the risks to cities (putting it near Glasgow is fine though...)

It's a massive bargaining chip for Scotland. Either get your nukes out today, and have nowhere to put them, killing the deterrent, or pay a fortune to rent faslane.

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u/Adr_LDN Sep 14 '26

Nope. Just hold on to the bases as sovereign territory à la Cyprus. Given the local economy revolves around them it’s not even a hard sell.

Scotland is the poorer demandeur in this scenario and if a hardline nationalist government wants to play silly games, they would win some very stupid prizes.

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u/kaetror Sep 14 '26

Aye, that's a great way to start international relations...

That's exactly the attitude that pisses people in the other 3 nations off. "If we want it we'll just take it, what are you going to do about it??"

The English superiority complex is what's landed us in this mess in the first place, it wouldn't be surprising if they doubled down on it.

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u/kaetror Sep 15 '26

Just misss the bit about "we'll just keep a bit of your country, use it to store weapons we consider too dangerous for our own country, and you can suck it"?

If we're getting to claim bits of other countries because we think they're valuable does Wales get to claim Heathrow? Just declare it sovereign territory; given the local economy revolves around them it's not even a hard sell.

That's how it works, right?

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u/Adr_LDN Sep 15 '26

It’s extremely funny that your own magical thinking and boastful claims being called out has annoyed you so much.

The fact you think the Heathrow analogy works is also just a bit odd. It’d (maybe) make sense if England wanted ‘all planes’ out of its territory or something, and air travel was some vital strategic interest, but as it stands it’s just a bit strange.

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u/Adr_LDN Sep 14 '26

The fact you’re reacting like this to an entirely rational response to a Scottish government deciding to take a hardline approach first is both incredibly telling and a neat explanation of why this stuff is pointless: the victimhood card will always be played.

Managing to get wound up over even a hypothetical is just sad. I’m sorry that reality isn’t going to be a scenario where there is equality of negotiating power and optionality, but that’s how it is. A ‘superiority complex’ doesn’t come into it, I’m afraid.

This is a giving nice echoes of the ‘no, the EU will definitely just give us everything we want’ stuff from Brexiters, and the UK was definitely on more solid footing viz. the EU than iScotland would be when dealing with the rUK.