r/PoursTea • 🫖 Mod ☕️ • Sep 14 '26

European Renaissance 🍾 🧀 🍻 🇬🇧The Future?

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u/Necessary-Nobody8138 Sep 15 '26

Wales voted to leave

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u/Stinky_Pete699 Sep 15 '26

English immigrants in Wales voted leave you mean

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u/Some-Vacation8002 Sep 15 '26

No literally Welsh citizens voted to leave… the valleys being one of the largest brexit voting areas. They are quite Welsh.

Right now I think independence is honestly a terrible idea.. no actual plans in a world that is becoming extremely hostile. As a Welshman we need to be more united than ever. The uk was powerful and wealthy because it was united not divided.

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u/Stinky_Pete699 Sep 15 '26

No English immigrants in Wales, mostly retirees and more likely to vote swayed the vote to Brexit.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/sep/22/english-people-wales-brexit-research

As a Welshman, we need independence. We need to secure our borders, water and our land are extremely valuable in a future of climate change. England has no future except as a dry desert.

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u/Some-Vacation8002 Sep 15 '26

literally we are so closely linked it would be disasterous finacially to untangle... your statement like all independence claims holds no water, as its just a statement with no actual idea of what independence means realitically and finacially for wales... no discussion about defence... afterwhich would literallty have no nuclear deterant, no talk about where actual money would come from, or how we would need to fund things...apart from... selling water. and in about 10 years england will have more reseviours than you can shake a stick at.

We have america, china and russia desperatly trying to push indepence, so they have a weaker world power to overcome.