r/PoursTea • u/ComplexWrangler1346 Just Chill đ • 11d ago
PoliticalTea đłď¸ EL-Sayed OWNED Fox new here ! Maybe they should stop bringing him on hahhahaha
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u/Altruistic_Put745 11d ago
Ignorant Fox News pushing an agenda that is complete lies right wing media. What a shame what happened to reporting the truth.
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u/MulzStridor 11d ago
âIn an earlier separate slander lawsuit involving host Tucker Carlson, Fox's legal team successfully argued in court that reasonable viewers do not expect Carlson to state actual facts, describing his program as featuring non-literal commentary and rhetorical hyperbole.â
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u/BoyDynamo 11d ago
Exactly. They literally argued in court that Fox did not need to uphold journalistic integrity because it is not a news program. Itâs just entertainment.
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u/MsMarfi 11d ago
So why are they still allowed to call themselves "Fox News"? Can we start a class action?
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u/volatile_ant 11d ago
No, because they were right. Reasonable viewers don't expect the truth from fox news. Unfortunately, the number of reasonable people in this country is dwindling.
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u/SkunkMonkey 11d ago
Because this case was about the Tucker Carlson show and not their general news programming as everyone seems to think. Fox only claimed that Tucker's show was full of shit and people should know that.
I am not defending Faux Newz here, only pointing out how people misrepresent that legal case.
I remember when they showed up and their tagline was "Fair & Balanced". I said at the time if you have to call yourself fair and balanced, chances are pretty good that you're not.
Nailed it.
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u/Odd-Consequence-5795 11d ago
His viewers do not know what those words mean, let alone expect it.
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u/ThisIsNotSafety 11d ago
Theyâre not ignorant, itâs established talking points, itâs propaganda. They know what they are doing, they are being paid to lie to you.
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u/willsmithtunaface 11d ago
Reporting the truth is not good for billionaires, so they bought all the reporters
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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 11d ago
If people didn't watch it for 30 years it wouldn't exist. It would go the way of the Inside Edition show it was modeled after by Roger Ailes.
In those 30 years, I've never once turned a channel to Fox "News" and I never will. When I enter a place of business such as a Firehouse Subs or a bar that has FN on in the background, I request that they change it. When they inevitably say the manager won't let them or the channels don't change, I leave the establishment.
The truth is that g.d. important
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u/youshouldn-ofdunthat 11d ago
I refuse to watch it as well with the exception of the clips I see on here as a reminder of the fact they're still slinging utter excrement from their stupid shit for brains
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u/Emotional_Answer_756 11d ago
They don't care about facts, statistics, or logic. All they care about, much like any MAGA buffoon, is protecting their fragile little egos. Admitting your wrong takes a strong character, which these people just do not have.
Also, the endless grift. So many people tied up financially in Trump's shenanigans. Wouldn't be surprised this complete moron of a Fox news "reporter" is one of them.
They are all so fucking stupid.
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u/LoudRich1351 11d ago
Theyâve never been interested in reporting the truth. The whole reason they were created is for peddling right wing propaganda.
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u/SirFuzzyFuzzletons 11d ago
Him and Mamdani, man.....why can't we have a president and VP of this caliber? Why can't ALL our politicians be like this
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u/aintmesum1else 11d ago
Republicans don't have the capacity to make reasoned argument. All they have is propaganda and emotion.
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u/SirFuzzyFuzzletons 11d ago
Yep. My dad regurgitated the whole "it's not Iran, it's Ukraine causing high prices" propaganda piece and I just ignored it and moved on. No point in arguing with them.
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u/ItSeemsIHaveDrawnYou 11d ago
Let me guess, he "doesn't listen to the news" but is somehow instantly ready with talking points on every subject.
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u/0tanod 11d ago
Mamdani wasn't born in the US so he cant run, but if El-Sayed wins Michigan there is nothing stopping him from running. If you want this I suggest you get to helping him with step 1.
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u/PsychicFoxWithSpoons 11d ago
Democrats failed to bring up the next generation of leadership. Pelosi, Schumer, Connolly, Feinstein, etc. - even Biden who I wasn't the biggest fan of - are wonderful politicians and did many great things for America during their long careers. But they refused to cede power even as they aged.
I'm not an advocate for term limits. I think it's fantastic to have Nancy Pelosi in our government fighting for the people, and I'd hate to see her retire. But she could easily have given up Speakership well before 2024. I think having a geriatric President and Speaker is a big reason for the failures of the Biden presidency, because they chased personal policy victories that were decades in the making rather than ceding any kind of political control to the people who voted them into office.
I think the flailing economy has caused younger people (especially millennials but also gen z) to keep our heads down and not run for office. How are you supposed to run when you work a shit dead-end retail job and barely have time or money to do things for yourself? Honestly I wanted to run, and then there were always so many fucking problems in my life that took greater priority. I'm 30 now with zero connections, massive phone anxiety, and dozens of my nudes saved to random Grindr users' phones. I don't think I could even take second place for county dogcatcher. And I'm not the only one in that kind of situation lol.
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u/dbern50 11d ago
Vote DSA and progressive. Not centrist Dems which are Republicans.
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u/What_a_fat_one 11d ago
In the primaries. Vote for any Democrat running in the general.
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u/Taxerus 11d ago
We seriously need a recall system otherwise we are going to keep getting Fettermans
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u/SirFuzzyFuzzletons 11d ago
Yea that's exactly what I'll be doing. Seeing coherent and intelligent younger people in politics like this does give me some hope for this ignorant country but we still have a LONG ways to go
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u/JelliusMaximus 11d ago
As with almost all questions related to our current world problems: because of capitalism.
Rich people exist. People who want strong middle class and no poverty exist. These people want to tax the rich to level the playing field. Rich people want to keep their money. Rich people need politics that support them and stop politics that'll hurt them. Rich people know media can influence a societys voting behavior. They have the money to influence/buy media. Media brainwashes people to think "rich=good" politics is good for them too. People vote for rich people. People get fucked. People angry. Rich people dont want to be target of that anger. Media of rich people tell angry people the brown/trans/leftwing people are to blame.
The cycle continues.
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u/mxjxs91 11d ago
I wouldn't count on it on account of him being Muslim, but unlike Zohran, Abdul is eligible to run for president. I think he's got that level of charisma that Obama had that could capture a lot of people's hearts.
I REALLY hope for that to happen in the future, but I hate that the level of bigotry present in this country, makes running someone as brilliant as him and who would do so well for everyone living in the country, a risky decision.
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u/April_Fabb 11d ago edited 11d ago
Lol, it's weird how the US has a Department of War, a Secretary of War, and aggressions in eight-ish countries, yet somehow thereâs never a war. Like...the Iran war is referred to as preemptive retaliatory de-escalation action (updated from a little excursion!). Turns out the word war invites congressional votes and accountability, so they quietly made the Pentagon a branding department specialising in euphemisms.
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u/Dancinfool830 11d ago
Except that except that Fatty Shartbuckle keeps claiming we won the war, and that the war is going to be over very soon
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u/MZ603 11d ago
Also, claiming âoil through the strait is almost back to where it was before the warâ is such a stupid argument. Thats their only potentially obtainable goal. Except, now, ships will be paying a toll/tax/fee to get through, Iran can shut it down again whenever they want, & it will take months for that oil to make it to market.
On top of all of that, the security architecture of the region has fundamentally changed, weâve spent $100s of billions, Bibi / Israel could reignite conflict at any time, the KSA already reignited the war in Yemen, AQAP is making a comeback, drone components are flowing into Somalia (where we still have troops, our stock piles are depleted, Ethiopia is on the verge of another civil war, the Sahel is hotter than ever, Ebola is raging in the DRC, millions are facing a food crisis in Sudan, & were are potentially looking at a bigger migrant crisis than we saw with Syria in the coming years.
I only listed like half the shit we are completely ignoring. We are weaker, have fewer allies, and shit isnât about to magically get cheaper.
A pox on Fox.
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u/alghiorso 11d ago
Fifa peace prize recipient wants to conquer the world in a bloody nuclear holocaust
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u/JumboTrout 11d ago
"Preemptive retaliatory" is some wild mental gymnastics lol
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u/alexabeams 11d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/anYBNhqT2BYcg
get her doctor
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u/Ambitious-Raise8107 11d ago
Dr El Sayed: "Im already giving her all the medicine she needs."
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u/HaiSaiDori 11d ago
Fuck the republicans, MAGA cult and fox not news.
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u/Braindead_Crow 11d ago
They are a cancer that is forcing people to adapt. The democratic party is the only way forward but the only way to push the party forward is through candidates like Mamdani and El-Sayed who do what they know is right rather than playing by the self defeating playbook the failed DNC keep pushing
It's good to see some people understand some news agencies weaponize air time to mold the perspective of viewers through rhetoric rather than through good faith attempts to inform.
Fox news is propaganda, that's the gist of what I'm saying and El-Sayed is clearly intelligent enough to understand that
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u/iloveplant420 11d ago
Agreed. I like what Angie Nixon said recently when calling out their lies. "When they go low, I don't go high, I get LOUD". That's what we need from dems right now. There's plenty to get loud about.
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u/DrAstralis 11d ago
I'll never understand how the high road became "roll over and take it". That's never what it meant. It meant if you were going to punch someone in the face you'd best have a damn good reason.
It's not "the high road" to ignore the myraid of crimes and crimes against humanity the GoP commit on the daily; The high road would be making sure you follow the law and present evidence while you use the power of the state to punish them for being such shit people.
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u/iloveplant420 11d ago
I totally agree. The problem they face is constant purity checks from their own side, and they fall victim to trying to please every niche group in the liberal left, but they end up pleasing no one and giving the right more ammo. It's been backfiring for years now. Time to pick a lane and push forward. I think one thing all of us in the left agree on is that these fascists need to be punished and made an example of so this doesn't happen again so easily
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u/Jorgen_G_Pakieto 11d ago
Oh my god man, that interviewer will not keep her job by letting him talk that much.
But god damn is it a good conversation for solid news.
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u/AncientNectarine5352 11d ago
Theyâre not getting rid of her. Sheâs literally one of only two or three âreportersâ left on the channel right now (I think itâs just her and Bret Baer now), and she always toes the line. Sheâs just not that good at it with El-Sayyed here.
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u/mrcrumplebottom 11d ago
He doesn't let people talk over him - yet doesn't yell. It's awesome. He is just laser focused when someone debates him.
He then immediately questions what they think about what they said to deconstruct their thinking.
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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 11d ago
I love the free air time Fox "News" is giving him. Taking full advantage of their mistake.
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u/GODDAMNFOOL 11d ago
Asking a "newscaster" to "answer the question" is just hilarious. Man had total control over the situation
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u/Alternative-Tie-9383 11d ago
Fox was âNo more war!!â until Trump started another war, then they changed their tune really damn quick into, âmore war, daddy Trump!!!â Theyâre state TV at this point.
Letâs never forget that this is a ânewsâ channel that has argued in court that they arenât a news channel, but an âentertainment channel.â This is the same network that (again, in court) argued that no rational person would believe the things their most popular evening show hosts say are true. This is also the same network that were sued for lying about Dominion Voting Systems in the 2020 election and ultimately settled with the company for a grand total of $787 million dollars.
Iâm of the opinion that you probably shouldnât be able to legally claim to be a news outlet if you canât tell the truth or even be bothered to try to be accurate in what you say. They have a word for that kind of thing: propaganda.
Thatâs why Karoline Leavitt will fit right in with the gang of liars at Fox News. Sheâll have the same job she had before: lying on behalf of Donald Trump, only now sheâll be lying on the private sector dime instead of tax payersâ money.
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u/SaltyLengthiness260 11d ago
Fun fact. At one point in the 50s to 70s there was a law that said news had to report facts and legally be factual to keep their license. It was repealed due to perceived conflict with the first amendment.
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u/Open__Face 11d ago
Never should have attacked Iran
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u/AsstacularSpiderman 11d ago
Iran is one of those situations where war is just not a realistic way to handle it. We did far more damage to it just sanctioning it and rooting out its militias across the middle east than we ever did in directly fighting it.
Now we've proven just how easy it is for them to completely fuck over the oil trade.
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u/aerost0rm 11d ago
We didnât learn the lesson is Iraq. Then again in Afghanistan. These white nationalists think our military is the best in the world and that the amount we spent in âdefenseâ is justified. We could easily shift a large part of the budget away from defense and do more with less to âdefendâ ourselves. Improve our day to day lives with that extra funding and still have savings.
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u/covfefemesurprised 11d ago
Israel has the unredacted Epstein files. Trump had no choice.
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u/mrcrumplebottom 11d ago
This guy is so good at pushing logic on people. He keeps his head cool, and he just pushes them until they submit. He's awesome. I've seen him do it twice already.
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u/Fair_Chemistry_3317 11d ago
I've seen him doing it every time he speaks in front of people!
I have more and more respect for him and I hope Michiganders realize how lucky they are to have such a smart and capable guy on their ballot!
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u/mrcrumplebottom 11d ago
We need more like him. Most people that are on the left feel like they are apologizing all the time, or are too scared to have an opinion. Love this energy.
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u/CaliNawlins 11d ago
she's defending Trump like she's on his payroll, too.
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u/userhwon 11d ago
Fox News isn't a news organization. It's a propaganda machine. Always has been.
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u/ElephantElmer 11d ago
Conservatives are the dumbest people ever.
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u/reddit_1999 11d ago
He had her stuttering like Ralph Kramden. đ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł Homina - homina- homina
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u/Bandicutie314 11d ago
I wonder why they don't ask this kind of question to the president.
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u/td1ddy 11d ago
Because they are sycophants. Lap dogs, bought and paid for to control the narrative. They aren't real journalists.
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u/dwaynebathtub 11d ago
Fox News is corporate news, which means they are paid to say the things that capitalist entities write for them. I don't think this model is singular to Fox News or that only Fox News is responsible to causing so many wars, but Fox News is responsible for Trump, Hegseth, and ICE attacks.
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u/Towerss 11d ago
Nah, WSJ is corporate news. Fox News is the propaganda wing of the Murdoch empire and is nowhere near being considered news, it's purely there to shift voter sentiment among the poorly educated to the right.
Murdoch does not like Trump, most billionaires do not. They just think it's better for voters to like him than to like left-wing candidates.
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u/supreme_hammy 11d ago
This woman has the audacity to say "So what's better?"
WHAT'S BETTER THAN WAR? NOT SENDING OUR COUNTRYMEN TO DIE FOR OIL COMPANIES.
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u/1976kdawg 11d ago
Hell yes!!! Speak the truth my dude!!! War is evil. Stop pretending it's not. Those people that say it isn't have no intention of fighting, they only plan to profit from it.
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u/ArcherOld7796 11d ago
Yep, but they are in the most American way, profit at the expense of the people.
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u/shoka409 11d ago
Holy shit, her response to âwe canât move oil and gasâ is, âWeâre almost ready to move oil and gas.â How can they be this fucking stupid?
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u/VegetableEngine_ 11d ago
He may have, I haven't seen the full interview, but I really wish he would have latched onto her own words there. "We're almost to the level of getting oil and gas out of the region that we were at before the war started."
If the goal posts are now to get back to where we were if we did literally fucking nothing, than why the hell are we there in the first place? That's even true to the nuclear proliferation agreements (the claimed reason we're there), where the goal was basically to get the same agreement Obama made but with Trump's name on it. You can't lateral move that, renegotiating an agreement like that isn't possible without the US making concessions.
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u/oo7changa1 11d ago
All MAGAtards see is a Mooslim. They don't care about truth. I try to have a conversations with people about this BS Administration and in on one occasion somebody said but Kamala is trying to get sex changes to prisoners. Also Bidens economy was worse. I had to point out current gas prices and inflation rates. He still did not care. I have no energy to even have a normal conversation with the Fox ROT BRAINWASHED PEOPLE!
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u/MrBDidit 11d ago
Almost. Going to take a little while. Starting to see. Getting close. These are all words of people that have no clue whatâs really happening.
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u/IrishtrashPeter 11d ago edited 11d ago
$47 billion so far (according to the always honest folks at the Pentagon) for the Iran War plus hundreds of millions to repair damaged bases in the region, plus the weapons and the $4-6 billion we give to Israel (they have socialized medicine, the USA doesnât) each year, fuel and transportation costs that will bankrupt trucking compagnies and farmers, and raise food prices for everyone.
Boy Scout Eggsack is asking for additional special funding of $47 billion and Trump wants next yearâs defence budget to be $1.5 trillion.
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u/blaivas007 11d ago
The math in your comment implies the Iran war has been going on for 40 days so far. It all started in March, roughly 220 days ago. Am I misunderstanding something?
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u/omnicloudx13 11d ago
Just constant in your face lies, how do people watch this SHIT and continue being lied to. Like damn it's a freaking cult. You have people who are genuinely trying to help you and the economy and you watch garbage propagandists like her on fox news. It makes no sense.
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u/Catpixfever 11d ago
Whenever your guest makes a good point, talk loud and talk fast! Classic tactic
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u/yesiammark72 11d ago
So we have wasted hundreds of billions of dollars, put our military in a weakened position, destroyed our reputation with the world, and we are trying to âget back to like it was BEFORE the warâŚthat we started!â Fucking idiots!!
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u/AccountHuman7391 11d ago
âHmmm, I donât like your answer, so Iâm going to move on.â
âNo youâre not, weâre going to continue to talk about this.â
Every Democrat needs to learn this method. Donât get distracted when a bad-faith interview backfires on Fox News. Turn the screws.
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u/No_Pipe9068 11d ago
They're never critical of the financial black hole that exists at the DoD and how they can't pass a basic audit. The money is never enough. Then they'll clamor for more war with another country. Pushing more debt. Then when "dumbocrats" get elected they'll blame the debt on them.
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u/notthatgreat2 11d ago
As someone who works on VA projects this is 100% true. Millions of dollars have been slashed from veteran care across the country because of this administration. This means less care for veterans as well as money out of the pockets of veteran owned businesses that work on these projects.
They are choosing to ignore and hurt veterans before they started this war and they continue to cancel projects left and right.
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u/Maleficent_Town_9405 11d ago
You always want to solve the problem with war.
What would be better?
Um how about diplomacy.
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u/Bellabbey1236 11d ago
The best part is how he stays calm & to his point while the host gets more combative. đđźÂ
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u/taco_helmet 11d ago
"The answer is always more war" - Boomers and Gen Xers, who largely still run things, were brought up during the Cold War. The U.S. population was programmed to believe that being anti-war was equivalent to being pro-communism (especially with Vietnam). War is patriotic. Bush got a 2nd term from being a wartime president and expending Americans lives in a war that had nothing to do with 9/11. Now we have Iran with no end in sight. This is just part of their programming.Â
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u/Haunting_Band6894 11d ago
It's no wonder Clinton told El-Sayed he should get into politics after his commencement speech. The guy can just put together points in such a coherent way and doesn't back down.
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u/ToolTimeT 11d ago
Its simply not true what that woman said... they were moving 20 million+ barrels per day pre war through the strait, now those same countries are moving 12 to 13 million barrels per day and 1/3 of that is through alternate paths such as pipelines and not even through the strait.
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u/Quirky-Jackfruit-270 10d ago
surprised fox news didn't cut his mike and go to a commercial like they have in the past.
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u/Aromatic-Dog-Breath 8d ago
The Republican answer to any question: Speak over the other person and change the subject.Â
Republican voters, youâre being fleeced.Â
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u/Sensitive-One819 8d ago
Defunding the VA.
Whoever thought that was a good idea while also promoting war should be held accountable.
Unacceptable
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u/Findict_52 11d ago
They figured out showing El Sayed is generally bad for democrats, but they seemingly forgot that they've got super exploitable skeletons in their own closets.
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u/Disastrous_Cover6138 11d ago
Also he is very well spoken, intelligent and stays laser focused.
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u/MetroidvaniaListsGuy 11d ago
This shit is why he keeps going up in the polls despite the massive baggage that comes with his name. He actually knows how to get into the belly of the beast and kick the beast's ass.
I got to say, I didn't expect this. He is proving to be such a pleasant surprise.
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u/Several_Cookie523 11d ago
He is ace. People of USA - put him in charge already- sick of this mess. love his one liners- "there's a war for that" hahahhahah
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u/LynxAgitated5391 11d ago
El-Sayed speaks with intelligence and a thought out point if view. I so hope the voters of Michigan can see that they have a chance to elect a serious candidate this November.
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u/bowmans1993 11d ago
Beyond that. For everyone that says the middle east is so anti American and they would destroy us if they could. Maybe if we ya know.... stop bombing them and overthrowing their governments they wouldnt hate us so much... its the same with Israel. Its a self fulfilling prophecy. If you run people into the dirt and kill their wives, children and give them nothing to live for. Don't be surprised if they become radicalized and willing to strap a bomb to their chest. If they think they're going to be blown up by an airstrike why not just blow yourself up at an enemy's embassy?
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u/Odd-Consequence-5795 11d ago
Every Fox guest needs to ask, âIs this an interview or are you going to spend the whole time talking over me with right wing propaganda?â While on air.
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u/The_less_seen 11d ago
Dude... So refreshing to hear a real voice... Fox news is just a fleshlight people use cause they can't bare the real world.
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u/sofa_king_weetawded 11d ago
He is so good. Didn't even have to raise his voice and he owned that conversation with facts and intellect over spin/talking points.
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u/Atlanta-Traffic 11d ago
Heâs so calm and tactful like he could reset our nervous system then here comes her babbling about misinformation to stoke a nerve.
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u/notacyborg 11d ago
These Fox clowns will try to commandeer the interview and force their talking points over the guest. It's about time they got put in their place (which should be under a boot).
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u/AventineAstartes 11d ago
MAGA interviewers talk fast, hoping their viewers won't realize that they're saying nothing.
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u/JamesTheLockGuy 11d ago
At this point, Fox News should give Dr. El-Sayed his own showâŚFox News could do a Hulk Hogan heel turn as a Network and be like, âWeâre FOR socialized healthcare and free immigration now!!!â
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u/DrAstralis 11d ago
Riiiiiiggggghhhhttt I'm totally going to believe the people who have lied about literally everything including things that would be more beneficial to tell the truth about as to whether or not oil is flowing out of a war zone.... that they created.
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u/Dexter_McThorpan 11d ago
"We're almost able to get oil!"
Put on your clown shoes, republicans. You did this.
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u/Fats-Tubman 11d ago
I love how itâs a state race, but theyâre dragging him into the national spotlight. And itâs backfiring on them. This guy gets his constituents.
Who needs war anyway?
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u/Celestial-Narwhal 11d ago
She said itâs not true and then went on to say it was true but maaaaay change. She is terrible.
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u/Adventurous_Fix6838 11d ago
Outlets like Fox, and you could even group in the other mainstream outlets to a certain degree, but most notably Fox, push for war because their financial ties and advertisers are defense contractors; their jingoistic political base are taught that the military industrial complex is good and necessary to keep us safe; their stories can revolve around heroic acts of individuals, like a soldier that saved his unit, while ignoring other important stories that are uncomfortable to report; and their hosts and slogans and banners create an illusion of supreme patriotism. War is good for Fox.
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u/PanteraOne 11d ago
Fox new has always been nothing but evil radical right-wing lies. They have done massive damage to the U.S, over the years because many Americans believe their endless lies. Rupert Murdoch belongs in prison.
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u/Makerofthinks 11d ago
They can lie all they want but Americans know inflation is worse than before he came back into office and proceeded to break campaign promises one after the other. I've seen my fuel receipts. I've seen my Grocery receipts. I've seen my housing, electric and insurance costs increase...how about you?
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u/JesusDeZombie 10d ago
Fox News just is the trump news network. They will never go against him, or whatever scheme he's got going on. You actually think this glamed up bimbo knows anything about the war?
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u/CruyffCule 9d ago
This is a great example of US 'news', they never allow guests to actually finish or make a point but rather push their narrative. Once you stop the manipulation, the truth easily rises to the top like here
It paints US as evil which most Americans don't even want to address
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u/Nofuckstogive77 8d ago
Abdul is a great speaker and he's going to win in Michigan for sure. I hope they all choke on it!
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u/Apocresi 8d ago
âThatâs not true, somebody else said we are almost to a point of getting stuff throughâ
So she is calling him a liar while simultaneously admitting he is correct.
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u/Sapling-074 11d ago
You can't lie about stuff people see everyday. It's so stupid.
Also, I loved his speech.