This is such a gross comparison. If she committed immigration fraud she should be punished. Additionally, nobody can tell me her financial records look right.
And before a bunch of start talking about Trump, yes all crimes should be punished, including his.
Are you special needs or something? Try reading the entire conversation and note what I'm reacting to. I don't have time to hold your hand through this. Ask others for help if you're still confused and struggling.
LOL me? Nope. You certainly are.
Youâre trying to say Trump was punished for those felonies. He wasnât. The very fact he became President after is proof of that.
I'm not trying to say that. I never said he was punished. The implication of my comment was that he was prosecuted and investigated. However, while he's the President and not currently in prison, he was convicted of 34 felonies in NY state court. So he was in the legal sense "punished".
Omar hasn't been punished yet either, she's only being investigated.
So again, instead of name calling try reading slowly while understanding the meaning of words.
Good ol crime with no complainant. No victim. No damages. No anything. But by god letâs prosecute. Meanwhile career criminals
Are slashing throats on trains.
Not sure what you're talking about guy...I was responding to the person saying "let's go after trumps bitch ass..." and I was pointing out that this has already happened.
I was talking about his felonies for âover valuing his assets on a loan appâ even though it was paid in full. Thatâs what his trial was about. Over valuing property as collateral.
No⊠it wasnât? 34 felonies to hiding his payments to a prostitute while he cheated on his wife. Swayed the outcome of the election by hiding that from voters
Honestly, if it was cheating on his wife over cheating on finance would you care? Most of you already think he does/has. Also if it was his wife, that wouldnât really affect anyone but his family. If it was financial, itâs more likely to affect the people.
Iâd imagine most would prefer their president not cheat but would be more upset about a president who cheats financially. No one seemed to care when Clinton was cheating, in the white house, then lied about. MLK, Gandhi, Kamala Harris.
Sure, I'm with you there. It was a bunch of BS charges and the point I'm making is that Democrats have, and probably will again, go after their political rivals. So people acting like this is outrageous are not being intellectually honest or consistent.
I personally donât feel that I should lift one finger of support for a judicial system where power and money control selective prosecution. Also, I donât trust a single thing coming from the current DHS. An âinvestigationâ is not valid until it is proven in a court of law.
And finally, what immigration fraud do you think she committed when she was 12 years old?
Someone noticed years ago when she was in the state senate she was 18 when she was granted citizenship under fraudulent terms. Itâs just now finally coming to fruition
You clearly don't know what she's being investigated for. Her birth year was changed making her 18 (an adult) coming here. They lied about her age to get her in. That is a crime.
She came in when she was 12âŠ. So they planned 6 years in advance and changed her dob upon entry? Also gtfo of here with definitive statements. You donât know any of that
Have you not read on this before commenting? Yes, came here at 12, she's under investigation of at what age they applied for citizenship 17 or 18. Her birth year was changed to make her 17 when she was 18. Thats what they are investigating. The investigation started in Dec 2025.
Her birth year was changed after she entered congress from 81 to 82. If her birth year is 1981she would have been an adult and not qualified for derivative citizenship. Thats the fraud they are investigating. There was probable cause the search her home.
Looks like her father lied about bring a leader in a genocide in Somalia, then she changed her age to get citizenship, and her father never did but lied about it. So she's a victim and criminal. This is all going to end up in court, so not proven yet. The father for sure, that's public facts. Everything stemming from it is being argued
So because of what her father did she's now held liable for that? Is that really how this great country works? Because if that's true then we would be holding Trump accountable for what his father did. And so many others. But for some reason people want to ignore that.
Her father lied on immigration paperwork, he is guilty of fraud, and never got citizenship. She claimed that she was younger to get a grant of naturalized citizenship due to her father being a citizen (so 2 fraud counts, she was over 18 and not eligible, and father was not a citizen). Those are facts.
Are you serious? They came here and claimed one age, as refugees got documents. Then she found out she was too old to be naturalized under her father's "citizenship ", so lied on the paperwork and became younger. Keep in mind the father was never actually a citizen. Then aged up again when running for office. Its fraud to be whatever age you decide today. Maybe she just identifies as older now.
No, its their claim so far, that will turn into a charge, then see where it goes. Your flat denials are just feelings though. The claim has already made it far enough and with enough merit that a judge signed off the warrant. Not proof yet but better than "no i dont like it Nyah nyah"
Biden-Era Investigation: In 2024, the U.S. Attorneyâs Office in Washington and the Justice Department's public integrity office opened an investigation into Omar focusing on her finances, campaign spending, and interactions with a foreign citizen. That inquiry stalled and was closed due to a lack of evidence
Biden-Era Investigation: In 2024, the U.S. Attorneyâs Office in Washington and the Justice Department's public integrity office opened an investigation into Omar focusing on her finances, campaign spending, and interactions with a foreign citizen. That inquiry stalled and was closed due to a lack of evidence
Wow I'm shocked to learn that Liberal Democrats are not great people! The Israeli supporting Biden admin, doing untoward things?!!?? Whaaaat no I love them!!!
The claim is that when she was 18 she claimed to be 17 for naturalized citizenship so if true an adult committed fraud not a child and definitely not one of 3 years of age.
Oh brother come on now! She did that so she could be citizen after both her parents became naturalized. Thats how it works, if your parents naturalize before youâre 18 you get citizenship from them. After 18, you have to go through the process yourself. If you qualify already ( and she did), which is the hard part, any American high schooler can pass that test. I know, because I did it at 18, but I came to America at 4. So she would have gotten it either way, she just skipped the test by saying sheâs 1 year younger.
So you agree she committed fraud but donât think there should be consequences. She probably wouldnât be facing them if she hadnât then run for congress and expressed hate for Americans then committed more fraud with her financials and potentially more fraud if she married her brother.
Ok sure, give her a fine for lying about her age by less than a year, sure. Donât imply itâs part of some deep criminal history. Iâm sure sheâs jaywalked before too, and donât get me started on how much sheâs litteredâŠ
Except the investigation is about whether or not she has a deep criminal history. If she married her brother and committed financial fraud it definitely speaks to a pattern that started at or before claiming to be 17 and fraudulently gaining citizenship. If you donât like the consequences change the law but the law says the consequences are nullifying her citizenship. Iâm not implying itâs part of a deep criminal history Iâm saying it. She should have her day in court if she did these things.
Agreed she should have her day in court. I donât think a 17/18 year old miss representing their age on a government form by a few months is any evidence of deep criminal history or affiliation. Itâs like when a kid shoots up a school, they suddenly take every questionable thing theyâve ever done and spotlight it as if there were clear signs that were missed. Instead of the honest truth that young boys act out irrationally and violently at times when under pressure and guns are far too available to them.
And the father never was naturalized, so there us that. Also they were at the top of the genocidal regime that got kicked out of somalia, so false asylum claim. It was actually dodging legal repercussions
The claim hinges on whether or not Omar knowingly lied on her naturalization documents, because whoâs going to realistically expect a child thatâs simply following their family, to know and understand the fundamental laws of US immigration and naturalization?
Imagine going to the doctorâs office as a child and being blamed for giving false information on the intake and insurance forms that your parents filled out.
Basically the same premise. How could Omar knowingly commit a crime if Omarâs parents were the ones in charge of filling out her paperwork and making sure she was naturalized properly?
Also, if weâre going to start stripping people of their citizenship status and deporting them because they may have lied on their naturalization intake forms, then letâs deport Elon Musk who naturalized under false pretenses of a J-1 student visa that he overstayed and illegally violated. Letâs also deport Melanie Trump who was naturalized under false pretenses of a B1/B2 visa for extraordinary talent, which we all know she doesnât have.
Thatâs the wild part. The reason that theyâre attempting to prosecute congresswomen Omar, is the same reason why the First Last and the worldâs richest man are in the US in the first place, as well. Holy hypocrisy.
If it was a lie she was 18 and responsible. If it wasnât a lie it was legal and a moot point. Youâve depicted it as her being a child but it hinges on her being an adult or not.
Yes I understand that there are different processes for minors and non minors.
Just wanted to point out that 18 years olds, while legally considered adults, are still morons that have the emotional intellect of an angsty teenager.
No, it is not right to lie on an official document, but I also do not think it is right to reasonably and realistically expect a teenager to fully comprehend the weight and ramifications of simply saying youâre 1 year younger, especially if your parents tell you itâs okay and that itâll be fine.
Like I doubt a teenager is going to instinctively lie about their age on a form unless they were instructed to by their parents.
Iâm not saying Congresswomen Omar shouldnât be punished if the investigation and evidence supports the claims, Iâm just saying that this is clearly a targeted and discriminatory use of our federal justice system.
Im saying that, if Trump and his administration is going to punish Congresswomen Omar and strip her status and deport her for being in the country illegally, then I wonder why Trump and his administration isnât punishing someone like Elon Musk who illegally overstayed his student visa?
If congresswomen Omar wasnât a brown woman, then we wouldnât even be in this mess, because we all know rich white people get to illegally skirt immigration laws, apparently.
I too love arguing in bad faith and having the world comprehension of a 2 year old. Never was it implied we'll overlook the crimes of someone else but three dimensional thinking can be hard with a dented head.
What you take seriously is important. Notice how nobody asked how you feel about it? If your opinion mattered at all, this administration would be im trouble... i get it.
I dont anticipate that day coming soon.
This administration is already in trouble, Trumpâs approval rating is in the mid to low 30s across almost every poll. Even the polls that report a higher approval rating only report approval in the mid to high 30s. The vast majority of Americans disapprove of his performance.
Republicans are facing miserable polling ahead of midterms.
The only thing you are overlooking is where I stated that Trump should also be punished for crimes. If she committed immigration fraud then she can be punished too
She didnât commit immigration fraud. This is the third investigation into this same thing. She has yet to be prosecuted. This is the âlawfareâ Republicans have complained about for years.
Oh you just know that she didnt commit any crimes for sure? Wild, you should put this ability to use in other fields, must be crazy to be gifted with omniscience, what are the lotto numbers for Powerball?
If you had bothered reading the very next sentence you would know that she has already been investigated for this same thing twice and neither found any evidence of a crime.
We'll see what the charges are when the government brings them, likely not related to those other cases if they are starting a new one. She's a sketchy POS
Wow isnât that convenient. Somali who is married to a congresswoman has not one but two businesses he has invested in, âexplodeâ. Nothing questionable about that. I mean Pelosi and her husband outpace Buffet YOY. In 2023 her portfolio rose 65% compared to 15% for arguable the best in the business, Berkshire. Please continue believing what you read.
I agree insider trading is bad. Trump has made more trades than any president in history. Has made billions since taking office. Any thoughts on that? Or itâs fine because heâs Republican?
Deflect much? He was a billionaire when he came into office. Are you going to audit why Obama, Biden, Sanders and Pelosi all have net worths over 100 million on 6 figure salaries? Or is that ok bc theyâre not Trump?
Successful at cheating and lying?? Yep. To the tune of $35,000,000 for a winery nobody could physically find (only a P.O. Box) At this point just stop commenting as youâve lost
Yes how dare you be judged for trying to act like both sides are the same. This is the cowardliest way to say that you like the other side but you don't want internet strangers to yell at you. Lol stop being an enlightened centrist and grow a pair.
The "for or against" mentality prevails here. Good luck in reddit with logic or pointing out *all* hte corruption. The truth is no well connected politician on the left or right ever goes to jail. A lot of fanfare exists to keep us plebs on the edge of our seats thinking that any day now the political problems will just fix themselves.
The well connected left don't commit crimes nearly as much as the well connected right, and they get off. The fact that you don't see that is bonkers. Develop a memory.
I've always voted dem because the alternative was even worse but nonsense like this just gets my blood boiling. They always pick some frindge idea to defend or in this case a very likely crooked person instead of dealing with real issues. If the Dems insist on importing all 3rd world problems rather than solving our own, people will elect fascists and then we will have an even bigger problem.
Lol if you think this won't be in many ways similar to how his supporters were often made to squeal like piggies after his downfall you might be surprised!
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u/IndividualFar6408 9h ago
This is such a gross comparison. If she committed immigration fraud she should be punished. Additionally, nobody can tell me her financial records look right.
And before a bunch of start talking about Trump, yes all crimes should be punished, including his.