r/PoursTea • • 6h ago

Hearth & Home 🏡 I Know This Feeling ... And I Hate It!

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u/Relevant_Winter_7098 The Timeline Sucks 5h ago

If a large segment, dare I say a majority, of Americans have negative feelings about the American flag after what MAGA has done with it, just imagine how the rest of the world sees it now...

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u/water-melon- 1h ago

Yep. We all see you as a bunch of clowns. Both MAGAs and the spineless anti-MAGAs

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u/Relevant_Winter_7098 The Timeline Sucks 5h ago

The difference being is that it is now the symbol of a fascist regime in control of all three branches of government, which is an entirely different (and far worse) situation than your example.

How dare you dictate who has a right to vote based on an opinion you disagree with. You sound like MAGA.

I have sworn an oath to the Constitution 6 different times. I have more than earned my right to speak freely about my opinion on the matter and maintain my unbroken voting record over 38 years.

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u/lldavids44 5h ago

Yep, MAGA isn't a random group. They're in charge at every level and STILL feel the need to find more ways to silence critics or anyone who disagrees with them

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u/Brock_8511 4h ago

Would you take away the voting rights of Nazi’s?

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u/Relevant_Winter_7098 The Timeline Sucks 4h ago

I would take away the voting rights of anyone convicted of treason or sedition. That's it

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u/BOOTY_POPPN_THIZZLES 4h ago

yes

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u/Brock_8511 2h ago

To quote the post above, “how dare you dictate who has a right to vote based on an opinion you disagree with. You sound like MAGA.” Do you see how stupid that sounds? Sounds really stupid right? Did you know that Marxist based ideology has killed over 100 million people? How about we stop Authoritarianism? Bring back some true liberty.

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u/rikety_crickets 5h ago

No one is stopping you from speaking, but clearly you can’t understand the difference.

If you had said the MAGA flag represent fascism, I would agree with you; instead you said the American flag represents it. The German flag did not represent fascism, the Nazi flag did. Being unable to separate the current government and whatever movement is coming along with it, and the flag that represents this nation (the good, bad, and ugly), makes me question your ability to think critically.

Taking an oath to this country doesn’t mean you’ve got some magic power, it was a choice that you made, just like millions of others; and if you think there is a domestic threat to the Constitution, you better do something about it. Also, by voting in career politicians over and over again is not the flex you think it is. There’s a reason corporations control our government, and you likely have played a big part in that.

Notice how I haven’t used my voting record or service record to prove my point?

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u/Relevant_Winter_7098 The Timeline Sucks 5h ago edited 5h ago

I said MAGA has coopted the flag for their own agenda and that is how the rest of the world (and a growing number of Americans) feel about it.

You have no idea how I voted. I simply said I have voted in every election for 38 years (counting this one).

You specifically said I shouldn't vote or be on the internet. Don't try to wiggle out of it.

And YES: People who have sworn and oath to this nation and actually led a life to honor that do have a unique perspective.

I am not alone in that, but I damn well will defend it and everyone else who has, even the ones I disagree with.

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u/CageTheDonkey051 5h ago

It is not a symbol of fascism. It is a symbol of this nation. It always has been and always will be, until this nation is no more.

Also fun fact, we still aren't a fascist state, otherwise you would disappear for openly criticizing the government. Remember freedom of speech is not allowed in any totalitarian state.

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u/Relevant_Winter_7098 The Timeline Sucks 5h ago

You are being pedantic.

The point is that is the direction we are headed. A fascist regime doesn't make a truly fascist state overnight.

If you dont think a course correction is needed then you are part of the problem

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u/CageTheDonkey051 4h ago

We have needed that course correction for at least 25 years. Every presidential administration has had red flags. If you are incapable of seeing that than you are the problem.

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u/Relevant_Winter_7098 The Timeline Sucks 4h ago

Not sure how anything I said led you to conclusion I think this is some brand new phenomenon.

I 100% agree that we have been on the wrong path since the 2000 election and I never for a moment have thought things were perfect prior to that.

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u/CageTheDonkey051 4h ago

I am referring to one specific act made in 2001. But the rot within our government goes much much deeper than that. None of that changes what the flag represents.

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u/Relevant_Winter_7098 The Timeline Sucks 4h ago

It started with the SCOTUS decision in the 2000 election. 9/11 and what followed was a byproduct

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u/CageTheDonkey051 2h ago

There were warnings from bill clintons admin about that specific attack. They were ignored and not passed on to the next admin. Maybe it was arrogance or maybe they just let it happen. But that isn't even the specific act I was referring too.

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u/Jamsster 5h ago edited 5h ago

You don’t get to decide who votes or has internet. If you were a genius you wouldn’t have that right. If you don’t get that their assertion was these activities hurt the country’s brand, that’s ok. Negative feelings aren’t all encompassing, but they can be a part of a symbol. Especially when the symbol is large enough to represent a country. Following their comment with what you did is poor. Do better.

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u/Relevant_Winter_7098 The Timeline Sucks 5h ago

Nicely said