Anyone with a grain of brain knows that sleeper cells are present at various places, and some of these act as double agents, or corrupt khabris. And whenever the cops need a scapegoat, the mafia bosses themselves give some useless pawns to the cops. It's easy to frame anyone. The cops become Heros, the eye of surveillance shifts from the bosses and political people get to create a narrative.
I'm not saying that this happened absolutely, but given my mistrust for governments, I dont reduce the possibility to zero.
Demanding political accountability is fair but asking 'what was the Home Minister doing' shows a fundamental misunderstanding of how security governance works.
The Home Ministry handles macro policy, inter-agency coordination, and budget allocation. Ground level intelligence interception and tactical execution rest with operational agencies (Ib, State Police Anti Terrorist Squads) Critical operational failures require targeted agency reform, not just political soundbites
So then why is the Home ministry not doing the required reforms like you mentioned. If you know it, clearly they should be able to know it too right? Are they not the capable of performing their home ministry duties?
the segregation of duty is understandable, still its upto HM to increase more proactive obervation in areas where density is going to increase when its already known that from jantar manter to sansad will be a place for protests and marchs.
ofc HM with this disguise can abosolutely not use this excuse to charge on people.
if you ask me, this is totally HM faults, tell me why its not, I am more than happy to be proven wrong.
Bhai tu idiot hai kya? Kashmir
Kahan se aa gaya kashmir toh kabse terror attacks se ghira hua hai. When i defended that labourer who got attacked was not a terriorst attack metropolitan cities ki baat chal rahi hai 26/11, parliament attack etc woh nahi hua
then - by your logic- since this terrorist attack did happen, you must have no problem in agreeing that this terrorist attack not 3 days ago is a result of utter failure of home ministry and intel agencies?
Haan bhai, agar BrahMos jaisa pinpoint accuracy har second har gully mein nahi mila, toh poora Intel network aur Home Ministry hi useless ho gaya, right?
Soft targets ko attack karna terrorists ki desperation dikhata hai, failure nahi. Jab dozens of modules Silent mode pe bust hote hain tab Intel ki tareef nahi hoti, par ek tragic incident milte hi expert analysis shuru. Operational lapses par criticism banta hai, par har cheez ko 'utter failure' bolna bas armchair expertise hai
Most of the terror attacks that are busted, terror attacks mein locals ka bhi support hota hai not everything is precise as brahmos, it was a failure of intelligence agency but we can criticise them, see their past record and what they are currently doing how many more people are getting eliminated
My question only relates to the particular instance, other successes don’t justify a failure - and you’ve been willing to admit failure of intel agencies - but are fearful to talk about home ministry for some reason. A success is a success and a failure is a failure. We must be prepared to accept this and then improve accordingly.
I agree. But its not like that the terrorists attacks have been completely stopped after 2014 - while the frequency might have reduced, they are still happening. You were stating that terrorists attack didnt happen in metro cities after 2014 - i just pointed out fallacy in that - nothing else.
Metro cities mein nahi hue, uss intensity ke jo planned the red fort one was foiled, the damage was less many lives saved. Some were lost but still it cant be
Ch**iye, national security falls under home ministry. In an ideal world the passage of responsibility should start at the very top. A top to down chain of responsibility ensures better functioning as the person at the top is under pressure to keep everything under control. Firing a low level employee never improves the system.
Ministers have been forced to resign for much less in India. Rajiv Gandhi once forced his minister to resign for a slip of tongue in an interview. Lal Bahadur Shastri resigned as a railway minister after one accident. There have been many more examples in our country. Its even more common in western democracies. Its sad to see that you find the idea so illogical. Brainwashing has been successful
Also I made my original comment in jest as the video posted by OP was edited.
First of all tell me how was that a security lapse when they actually foiled the plan before it even started ! You cant really fullproof India from ISI terrorists and other such fkers. If the attack was successful and something happened than you could have blames him but it was foiled so how can u ask for his resignation ?? Obviously national security comes under HM but its impossible for any human to MICRO manage every state and city for terrorism threats !!
Under Amit Shah only NAXALWAAD have ended. Before him, Manmohan singh himself called it one of the BIGGEST threats to India !!
are terroists afraid of jantar mantar ? anyone can visit a public place how dumb are you , the video mentions it clearly and its pubjab police thats under AAP govt. you cant even cry about that.
these people were caught what else can they do ? these locals are indians they didn't crossed the border. And do you think that those people are dumb that they work very openly ? officers are working day and night. Its not like the 26/11 attack where the congress leaders told the border security forces to ignore the suspicious movements near the sea.
Even u can be in a bubble. Atleast know the history. Read about ISI and how they they to propagate terrorism in India. Good to question anyone but it shouldn't come at a cost where an enemy nation can use it to further disbelief about the forces, police etc of the country. You haven't seen good old days before BJP was in power. But I wish those days come back and people who are in delulu, their bubble can break.
So many terrorist attacks in india during bjp government. Is home minister sleeping or what ? Last 12 days Hm amit shah and pm modi has not appeared in parliament !! Both are useless.
Resign amit shah
the coolest thing these days is to blame anything on the PM and HM. otherwise, I guess peer groups of gen z are bullying too much. I studied in JU long back, then also it was like this. Whenever we tried to say anything against the left narrative, we were bullied, weren't physically harmed, but there was an implication that we'll be kind of isolated. Classic leftist naxali culture.
Hydrogen trains being run and Vikram is being launched, delhi Varanasi bullet will be on its way soon, but who cares? let's blame everything on the PM!
Paytm use hota hai; handlers paise kya drone se bhejenge? paise chain ke through logo se travel hote hai, chain itni lambi hoti hai taaki track na ho paaye.
We will always have enemies, there will always be people outside trying to disrupt us but if we stop the way they can get money inside we can be safer.
Task was to attack police and make video? Wow so little clue.
This kind of technique has been used by BJP government for years, try everything to disturb authenticity of the protests and then say the protests were organized by terrorists.
Sad that you guys still fall for it.
They use it every time there is a protest or election.
Connecting cross border terror plots investigated by non-BJP state police forces (like West Benga STF) to a 'BJP staging strategy' requires a truly wild level of mental gymnastics.
Terrorists target public protests precisely because they offer high visibility and crowd density not because politician invited them. Stop trivializing actual national security busts just to suit a political narrative
So, if jantar mantar was the target site for supposed terror attack, didn't the forces know beforehand? If they did why did they not issue an advisory beforehand??? This still doesn't justify why innocent civilians were beaten up.
For first one, enquiry should be established, for second one, it is an SOP for crowd control and third one is collateral damage for which enquiry shoulf be established again
If they did why did they not issue an advisory beforehand???
You sure you won't label it a "false advisory" to demean the protests!!? You are the useful idiot for the ISI who get cover fire from the likes of you.
Isn't paytm flagged for malpractices..
And didn't paytm members praised mr noddie because they are also part of some organisation and they helped paytm from their crisis with malpractices?
Very interesting as how “ISI backed terrorists” were discovered so soon after the Indian government came under fire from the CJP; even more curious is the fact that Pakistani military currently has its hands full with the situation in Kashmir.
Toh woh na jantarantar gaye na unhone waha kuch kiya. Toh jantar mantar link kaha se hua bhai? Police ki video banana terrorism ho gaya ab? Kyuki Sanghiyo ne banwana hai har matter ka ISI link. Protest khatam hone k 10 din baad tumne bust kar liya kuch bhi random. Fantastic 🤦😂
I’ve been reading it long enough to understand how propaganda works in this country. You use it for once instead of parroting everything that comes out of this govt.
Paytm use hota hai; handlers paise kya drone se bhejenge? paise chain ke through logo se travel hote hai, chain itni lambi hoti hai taaki track na ho paaye.
itne cleanly chain hoti hai ki pata hi nahi lagega fcra tabhi toh aa raha hai. everything is connected par agar logic nahi lagana fir toh koi option nahi hai
The protestors in CJP surely were. Saurav Das made fun of India's ex-Army Chief Upendra Diwedi in a tweet during OP Sindoor. So this attack surely would have benefited CJP more
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Anyone with a grain of brain knows that sleeper cells are present at various places, and some of these act as double agents, or corrupt khabris. And whenever the cops need a scapegoat, the mafia bosses themselves give some useless pawns to the cops. It's easy to frame anyone. The cops become Heros, the eye of surveillance shifts from the bosses and political people get to create a narrative.
I'm not saying that this happened absolutely, but given my mistrust for governments, I dont reduce the possibility to zero.