r/RoughRomanMemes • • 9d ago

στὴν Πόλι

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u/Adept_Rip_5983 9d ago

full circle

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u/Fatalaros 9d ago

Πόλη* and it would be "to the city"

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u/-idkausername- 8d ago

No there is evidence it might have been 'in the city' (στην πολι)

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u/Fatalaros 8d ago

It's either Πόλη (modern) or Πόλιν (which is the accusative of Πόλις, in use back then). The phrase "είς την Πόλιν" means "to the City". In the city would have been "έν τῇ Πόλει".

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u/Vin4251 8d ago

In modern Greek, στην πόλη means “in the city” even though it descends from εις την πολιν … since the modern language was spoken colloquially before it became the literary standard, it’s possible the phrase had the modern meaning from the start, or at least it was ambiguous 

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u/Fatalaros 7d ago

Guys, I know my language...

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u/Vin4251 6d ago

Fair enough, and I didn’t downvote you, but I commented more for other readers who might not know the historical development and the ambiguity it makes possible 

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u/-idkausername- 8d ago

Look at the source in the body text

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u/idgfaboutpolitics 8d ago

Konstantiniyye is the turkish name

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u/ShakeReal3539 8d ago

How about "to the city"?

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u/SourceCodeAvailable 9d ago

The land of the Hittites

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u/Dominarion 9d ago

That's a fuzzy one. That's farther north than what the Hittites' reach in the region that we know of. But there are a lot of tablets that haven't been read yet, and references to places we're not sure about.

There's a growing consensus that Wilusa was Troy and the site of Byzantium was quite near.

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u/TheSuperBunny 9d ago

Wilusa is most likely Ilion, Taruisa is most likely Troia

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u/Dominarion 9d ago

Ilion was one of the names of Troy

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u/Cactus-Pete- 9d ago

Ya, hence the Illiad being named as such. Not to mention, it's pretty well established in the field that Wilusa is the most likely candidate.

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u/-idkausername- 8d ago

Yeah in the field of classics pretty much everyone agrees. Makes even more sense if you consider that Ιλιον originally had a digamma (Fιλιον, pronounced as Wilion)