r/SipsTea • • 19h ago

Chugging tea The father everyone needs but not everyone has

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u/Hobbes09R 19h ago

His last words were as he was rescuing one, as I recall. He drowned while pulling them to a board and was declared dead on the way to the hospital when CPR failed.

I hate stories like these. We like to celebrate heroics, particularly from family and the like. What stories like these often don't tell you is the mitigating circumstances. Like the fact that there were two red flags out and nobody was supposed to be swimming to begin with. Too often we praise heroics when those heroics were only possible due to earlier incompetence. The praise should be to those who went out, saw the flags, and warned their family not to swim that day because conditions were dangerous, because they didn't put anyone's life at risk.

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u/nunyabidness3 14h ago

I’ll tell you something about heroes, the need for a hero is nearly always due to incompetence, neglect, ignorance and sometimes malice. That’s what makes a hero a hero. In this case, they’re all dumb. But I cannot think of a better death for a father. Stupidity be damned.

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u/city_in_ruin 19h ago

Whatever happened to the age old rule: "nobody dies in the ambulance"?

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u/Hobbes09R 18h ago

He probably was dead well before then. That's just where he was declared.

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u/Disco_Ninjas_ 10h ago

It was probably the end of a long shift and they were tired. Almost always they will continue cpr or use a LUCAS.

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u/The_Real_Lasagna 9h ago

It must be miserable being you everyday

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u/JJMANS242424 19h ago

How many children do you have?

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u/Hobbes09R 18h ago

What's the price of tea in China?

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u/Therealginahandler 18h ago

Black tea from China is about $5.60 per KG exported.

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u/kdogman639 11h ago

Unrelated but does anybody get Tony Hinchcliff on HGH vibes from Tony Robbins? also holy shit they have the same first name.

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u/JJMANS242424 18h ago

5.60 US per kg.

Now back to people talking shit about what real parental heroics are that don’t have kids.

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u/Hobbes09R 18h ago

The point

Your head.

That is not my my conversation and I'm not having a part of that coversation. I also recommend you don't assume things of strangers. Such is how ignorance spreads.

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u/JJMANS242424 18h ago

Wow that was weird.

Simple qeustion my guy. Do you have children? Do you know what it is like to love selflessly. The story’s you say you hate right? The story you hate is about someone willing to die for the people they love. Are you willing to die for someone? Better yet Is anyone willing to die for you?

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u/Mordliss 17h ago

I'm pretty sure his point was that the heroics would not have been needed if the father told his daughters your not going in or near the water while they are flying two red flags.

Sure he died saving his kids, but he also stood by while they disregarded the warning placed there for a reason, and died because of that decision.

Edit: I am a father of three, would absolutely die for them - buts it's also my job as a father to make sure they don't get themselves or me in a position where that is the only, and necessary option left.

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u/UrMumVeryGayLul 14h ago

Fucking, THANK YOU. A father with sense.

I find it condescending that someone would devalue someone’s logical opinion based on the fact they have children. I’m sorry, but I thought being a parent meant you couldn’t afford to throw critical thinking out the window. Also astounded by the implication that people are unable to comprehend the concept of “love” without having children of their own, and that “love” is why I should let my children swim even when advised otherwise.

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u/JJMANS242424 17h ago

Trust me I understand the opinion. That’s not the point.

We have zero clue what happened and what the father should have done. We were not there and people shouldn’t be so easy to cast judgement.

All we know is that someone died giving the ultimate selfless sacrifice. This is not a story to hate, this was real life.

As a father myself I get frustrated with people that don’t have kids talking shit about being a parent.

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u/Mordliss 7h ago

Except it's not an opinion, it's the facts of this case. The red flags were posted. Dad let daughters go in the water. Daughters got into trouble, because of a rip current , which was the reason for the red flags. Dad did not want to watch daughters die, so saved them and died doing so.

Facts. Also fact: if Dad was doing the responsible Dad Role, he doesn't let his daughters go into the water during red flags. Dad died because he wanted to be the friend instead of the parent.

We don't have ZERO CLUE what happened. The case has been posted several thousand times around the internet. So hailing the man as a hero is a tough pill to swallow.

You don't get to set the building on fire, then run in and save people and become the hero.

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u/Hobbes09R 17h ago

None of that is any of your business.

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u/JJMANS242424 17h ago

Fair enough. You started out with a lot more to say.

Here’s the thing. This isn’t a story. This isn’t a movie to critique. You had a lot to say for someone that wasn’t there but you missed the most important thing. It’s about love and I hope you get the chance to feel and understand that someday.

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u/Hobbes09R 10h ago

No, it isn't a story. It isn't a movie. In the real world that we live in, most heroics are necessary only due to previous failures.

Your trying to shift the conversation and being angry or insulted based off some perceived credentials is unnecessary and inappropriate.

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u/JJMANS242424 9h ago

Most heroics are from failures??? Dude what. People are hero’s everyday and they react selflessly. I am sure some scenarios could have been prevented but most is an overstatement. Too many uncontrollable factors.

If anyone shifted the narrative it was you. From a post about the ultimate sacrifice of a father to a post grandstanding that the father should have prevented this even though you were not there.

I simply asked if you had children. Because if not, you have zero clue.

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u/686f6c69 17h ago

I’d argue that people with kids should be extra worried about their own and their kids’ safety.

If I see a red flag and decide to go swimming and die, that sucks for me.

If a family loses a kid or a parent, that sucks for the whole family