r/SipsTea • • 13h ago

Chugging tea Did Metallica get the message?

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u/DeFlatDeSpare 12h ago

People don't want Metallica to tell them how to think. People want Metallica to agree with them.

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u/Swazi 9h ago

James had the same message in the 90s too.

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u/anjunableep 11h ago

That is the point, it's a continuation of woke tyranny: you're either with us or against us and you risk your career / cancellation / public shaming and bullying, doxxing and simple physical intimidation and violence if you're against us.

Luckily Metallica and most others don't give a fuck about those people anymore.

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u/nomelonnolemon 10h ago

In this day and age we kinda want to know if someone is an Epstein apologist and Zionist supporter before we give them our money.

It’s not that difficult to speak against harming children.

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u/Effective-Detail3043 5h ago

Hamas rapes children. You guys love those dudes. People like you are fucking hypocrites. You don’t give a shit about children. The Epstein shit is just something you and your liberal echo chamber keep in your pockets to try and rub in people’s faces that don’t align with your narratives.

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u/nomelonnolemon 5h ago

lol

Fuck hamas, and fuck anyone who hurts children and innocent civilians.

See how easy that is?

If you took 30 seconds to google hamas you would know they are a terrorist organization condemned by the majority of the Palestinian people.

That’s like lumping you or your neighbour in with the KKK because you both believe in Catholicism.

But I don’t expect anyone who thinks caring about the Epstein files is a liberal echo chamber narrative to have the ability to read anything longer than a tweet, or to digest anything more complex than the story line in an episode of paw patrol.

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u/Jzmxhu 10h ago

I miss the days were people could give a fuck about the person and only like the art.

Wait a minute, we still can.

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u/kalasea2001 10h ago

"I miss the days when we didn't care if they supported pedophilia" is just a you issue buddy. we've always cared.

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u/Jzmxhu 10h ago

Oh okay I will care and post stuff on social media pretendig that I am doing something.

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u/nomelonnolemon 9h ago

I mean, denouncing child rapsists and murderers shouldn’t be something you don’t care about.

Do you…. You know… care about those things?

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u/Huckleberry_Sin 6h ago

Oh wow denouncing things literally everyone other than perpetrators agree should be denounced.

How brave of you to use your voice online. I’m sure your comments are making a substantial difference in the conflict.

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u/nomelonnolemon 5h ago

Sometimes I worry that I may be one do those people who thinks they are somewhat intelligent, but actually I’m just to dumb to know. Then I interact with people like you and I feel much better about myself 😎

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u/Dougthehamster 11h ago

No, it’s because Metallica used to not be scared to speak up to corporate interests, and now they are. This should be obvious unless you are too young.

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u/kmeci 9h ago

Is it though?

Back in 2007 Hetfield said:

Fuck politics! I mean, I can't stand it. It drives me crazy. And there's politics within music; the business side a lot of times really, really bothers me. I like playing music. We were asked to play, and I said, 'OK. I wanna play. There's a lot of people that are gonna be watching that show.' . . . I don't like talking politics.

All the way in 1992:

We've steered away from all that, we've had numerous letters asking us to play for this cause, that cause. We're a musical band, not really into political shit.

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u/dsten85 4h ago

u/ZekeTheJinxstem, take a look at this. Might help you understand

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u/ZekeTheJinxstem 3h ago

Eh, lame imo. Oh well though.

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u/dsten85 2h ago

What's lame, the fact they've been consistent about their disdain for politics for decades? Or the fact that the outrage is manufactured?

Edit: typos

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u/Cornelius_Wangenheim 6h ago

When people talk about Metallica being good, they're talking about the 80s, before they sold their souls and started making radio-friendly rock, suing kids for downloading music and cheering on the CIA torturing random goat herders with their music.

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u/kmeci 5h ago

Well perhaps, but if it was 40+ years ago then I’m not sure why anyone is surprised today.

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u/Cornelius_Wangenheim 5h ago edited 5h ago

I don't think anyone is surprised that Metallica has continued their trend of sucking. It's still worth pointing out that they're hollow shells of their former selves and that their younger selves, who made their best music, would have disagreed with their current stance.

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u/Dougthehamster 9h ago

I’m wondering why you posted two quotes about POLITICS when I said nothing about politics.

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u/kmeci 9h ago

Because the full comment chain including OP's screenshot is about politics. If you meant to talk strictly corporations then idk how that's relevant here?

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u/Dougthehamster 9h ago

You were responding to my post, not others. Sorry your comment was misplaced; pay more attention next time.

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u/RaggmunkLingon 11h ago

Can the only reason you don't speak about a subject be because you're scared to? There can't be any other reasons?

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u/thankyouf0rpotato 9h ago

Yeah in this case it could also mean they're awful people.

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u/Mutant_Apollo 10h ago

And when eventually James comes out as a card carrying republican (which ffs everyone has known James' politics for a long time) he and the whole band will be crucified because that's not the "correct belief"

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u/SeattleGeek 9h ago

I mean…it’s been 26 years since Metallica started speaking up for corporate interests and trying to get college kids jailed.

They also didn’t lift a finger to help Pearl Jam in their fight against Ticketmaster. And now look where we are.

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u/armaghetto 12h ago

People want Metallica to stop being hypocrites and sellouts. Their early songs were anti war, anti corruption, and now they’re like “we don’t want to take sides”

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u/krombough 11h ago

What they said is "we're not going to lecture you." Not everybody goes to a concert to be pumped into a frenzy about the current world political situation.

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u/Mutant_Apollo 10h ago

This, I'm not going to a Metallica gig to listen to political commentary, I go to listen to good music

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u/Gravejuice2022 9h ago

Do you guys know about Woodstock?

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u/armaghetto 11h ago

So they didn’t play master of puppets, for whom the bell tolls, or any of their political songs, to avoid lecturing right?

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u/Nurgle_Marine_Sharts 11h ago

I get the impression they prefer to let the music do the talking instead of the kind of empty lip service and land acknowledgements that interrupt the set. Idk I prefer this myself, I'm here for a concert not a campaign rally or a uni lecture.

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u/i_cant_get_fat 11h ago

Curious…. Why not just play the music then? Why make the comment no one asked for or needed?
What’s worse? Speaking up for those who can’t? Or complaining about those who are speaking up?

Isn’t it a jab more at people who decide they wanna communicate about injustice?

If he didn’t wanna make the jab he could have said “you know where we stand by listening to the music”

Making the jab invites the criticisms (because he is being critical himself) doesn’t it?

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u/morally_immoral 10h ago

Because people are idiots and will badger them for saying nothing.

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u/i_cant_get_fat 10h ago

People are idiots huh? You wouldn’t say…

If mfer is afraid of what people will say… anticipate and deal, or say something smarter ?

Why pick a dumb option?

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u/morally_immoral 10h ago

Because they're a band their songs already speak for them if actually listen to them

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u/Nurgle_Marine_Sharts 10h ago

Ehhh I think a single sentence is pretty different from "LOUD POLITICAL STATEMENT".... (wait for applause, please clap Jeb Bush energy) rinse and repeat for several minutes

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u/i_cant_get_fat 9h ago

So you’re saying he could have said “free Palestine” and it would have been a better idea? One single sentence. Just not go on and on?

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u/Nurgle_Marine_Sharts 9h ago

Not really, because one is an actual political opinion/stance. Tge other is a clarification that they aren't going to be doing that exact thing, because this is about your entertainment and not about pushing the band's opinions on fans needlessly.

Like I'm genuinely curious are you stupid? Or do you just hate people who don't fellate you after you say the most bog standard political statement?

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u/i_cant_get_fat 9h ago

You missed the part where they write and perform political songs… much longer than a couple words.

“Rage against the machine should keep politics out of their music!” vibes you got

Any other layers to your inconsistent take?

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u/krombough 11h ago

There is a massive difference between playing a piece of art, and letting people form their own opinions on what that art says, even if there is a consensus opinion. And picking up a bullhorn to shout at people what you want them to think.

Them playing Creeping Death is what it says on the tin for your ticket. James Herfields opinion on Middle Eastern conflicts is not.

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u/kalasea2001 10h ago

they said that as they were lecturing the audience so no, your argument makes no sense.

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u/krombough 10h ago

It makes perfect sense:

"Form your own damn opinion, we arent going to tell you what to think" is different from:

"Here is what our view on this issue is!!!"

You just want them to comply with your version of "everything that is not forbidden is compulsory".

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u/Practical-Dot839 11h ago

“Stop being sellouts” dude they’re like the biggest sellouts in history of music. You petulant children need to grow up

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u/i_cant_get_fat 11h ago

Isn’t it old people who have bad memories? Not children?

Metaphor better.

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u/ZoharDTeach 9h ago

It's been decades. Literally decades. If you haven't noticed the pattern by now, you're dumb and that's on you.

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u/ThinkTheUnknown 12h ago

Nah, it’s just that if more people in power actually stood up against the ones committing corrupt and evil actions, then the world would actually change for the better instead of having this defeatist viewpoint where it doesn’t matter what we do and everything sucks anyway

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u/TheRealGoodArchitect 12h ago

Metallica isn’t in power. Nobody gives a fuck what they think except for people too stupid to think for themselves. We should be grateful when celebrities stay silent because it frees up room in stupid heads for novel thought.

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u/Nurgle_Marine_Sharts 11h ago

I'm reminded of Bill Burr "I am a dancing clown, why the fuck are you asking me about politics"

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u/bangles00 11h ago

Sounds like exactly the people voting for rapist pedophiles so maybe a good audience to capture

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u/Fine-Car7587 9h ago

See, this is what happens to your head when you start treating every aspect of your life like it’s a political struggle. Turns your brain to mush.

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u/Sad_Assignment_9568 11h ago

Or maby they care about the people that just want a little escapism from the word. Litteraly everything doesn't have to be about the political agenda you have

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u/chillboytweet 11h ago

in power

Brother, please log off and call your family, they miss you

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u/Bleyo 11h ago

Metallica is a boomer metal band(fine... Gen X metal band). They have no power. You, and a lot of Redditors, just get irrationally angry whenever you see someone not enthusiastically supporting your worldview.

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u/ThinkTheUnknown 10h ago

Who’s irrationally angry when someone doesn’t support their worldview. Most people here are just angry that no one cares.

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u/Fine-Car7587 9h ago

“No one cares” and it’s a topic which has dominated the mainstream news and social media for years now

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u/ThinkTheUnknown 9h ago

No one HERE cares.

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u/Fine-Car7587 8h ago

We’re literally in a thread right this instant where that is the main subject. You are delusional.

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u/ThinkTheUnknown 8h ago

See the comments above that I replied to. The point is the commenters I replied to are making light of the situation and don’t care that people care.

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u/Fine-Car7587 8h ago

Literally just open any mainstream news website or any major social media website (including Reddit) and you’ll see someone crying about Palestine in 5 seconds. It’s the most talked about political topic in the world right now. A couple commenters in a Reddit thread (who clearly care, by the way, otherwise they wouldn’t click on or comment on a thread about this subject) claiming that they don’t care does not mean that nobody here cares. This thread is filled with people clearly on your side expressing the same opinions as you.

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u/ThinkTheUnknown 8h ago

So I should do nothing and not respond? 😭 why are you so mean! 😭 😭

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u/spaceenvahisseur 11h ago

Not how the world works bud

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u/Forest_Hills_Jive 11h ago

No. Functional people just expect everyone to acknowledge and denounce genocide.

They also don't want bootlickers to profit by not acknowledging or denouncing that genocide.

It's simple. And like... the lowest conceivable bar to clear, tbh. They're 100% right too, amazed Metallica is this soft/stupid.

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u/Fine-Car7587 9h ago

What does some random musician acknowledging and denouncing genocide actually do?

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u/DubiousDevil 10h ago

I listen to music for the music, not whether somebody like Israel or likes Gaza.

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u/ZoharDTeach 9h ago

>it's simple. Just follow my commands.

How about no.