r/SipsTea • • 2h ago

Gasp! Oop

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u/_BloomQuiet 38m ago

Wait until they find out about ancient history before 1948

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u/jiggscaseyNJ 24m ago

Wait until you find out that YHWH was among a pantheon of Canaanite gods under their father El and that YHWH had a wife named Asherah.

The Israelites were a nomadic tribe from the hill country who weren’t monotheists until the return from the Babylonian exile where they were likely influenced by Zoroastrianism.

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u/sajkoterrapefft 18m ago

I just found out that Izrael is a pronounciation of the Muslim angel if death, Azrael. Very interesting wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azrael

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u/MrDeekhaed 33m ago

This is why we can’t let americas indigenous people have nukes. They have the right to wipe out the animals that stole their land

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u/B-Train_ATL 36m ago

They prolly think Rome was always just a city in Italy.

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u/TruthAboutLife 33m ago

In the Bible, the name "Israel" carries several distinct meanings depending on the context, evolving from an individual's personal name to a family, a nation, and a spiritual concept. 1. Israel as an Individual (Jacob) The origin of the name appears in the Book of Genesis. God bestows the name "Israel" (Yisra'el, meaning "he strives with God" or "God strives") upon the patriarch Jacob after he wrestles with an angel/God at Penuel:

"Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel, because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome." — Genesis 32:28

  1. Israel as the Twelve Tribes (The Patriarchal Family) As Jacob’s twelve sons became the leaders of the Twelve Tribes, the term expanded to describe his direct descendants—the Israelites or the "Children of Israel" (Bnei Yisrael). Throughout Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy, "Israel" refers to this unified community of tribes during their enslavement in Egypt, their journey through the wilderness, and their eventual conquest of Canaan.
  2. Israel as the United Kingdom During the period of the Monarchy, Israel became a political geopolitical entity ruled successively by:
    • King Saul
    • King David
    • King Solomon Under David and Solomon (circa 10th century BCE), Israel represented a united sovereign kingdom stretching across the historical Land of Canaan, with Jerusalem as its central religious and political capital.
  3. Israel as the Northern Kingdom (Divided Monarchy) After the death of King Solomon (around 930 BCE), the United Kingdom split into two separate nations: | Kingdom | Territory & Tribes | Capital | Historical Fate | |---|---|---|---| | Northern Kingdom of Israel | 10 Northern Tribes | Samaria | Conquered by the Assyrian Empire in 722 BCE; its population was deported (often referred to as the "Ten Lost Tribes"). | | Southern Kingdom of Judah | 2 Southern Tribes (Judah & Benjamin) | Jerusalem | Conquered by the Babylonians in 586 BCE (leading to the Babylonian Exile). | Note: In the prophetic books written during this period (such as Hosea and Amos), "Israel" or "Ephraim" explicitly refers to this Northern Kingdom, distinguishing it from "Judah."
  4. Israel as the Land (Eretz Yisrael) The Bible frequently uses "Israel" in a geographical sense—referring to the Land of Israel promised to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (Genesis 15:18-21). In the Old Testament/Hebrew Bible, geographical boundaries vary across books (e.g., Joshua, Ezekiel), but it generally covers the historical region between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea.
  5. Israel as a Spiritual Concept (The New Testament Context) In the New Testament, "Israel" takes on additional spiritual nuances alongside its historical and ethnic meanings:
    • Israel in the Gospels: Refers primarily to the Jewish people and the covenant community living under Roman occupation to whom Jesus preached.
    • "Israel of God" / Spiritual Israel: In Paul’s epistles (such as Galatians 6:16 and Romans 9–11), the term is discussed in relation to faith. Paul explores the distinction between physical descent from Abraham and spiritual connection to God's promise through Jesus, framing believers as part of an expanded spiritual covenant. Which period or context of biblical history are you most interested in exploring further?

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u/baronunderbeit 32m ago

Thanks chatgpt

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u/Feline_Couple 29m ago

Well a simple history school book would do wonders for this person…

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u/Background-Ad3308 20m ago

Wasn't it called Judea? I thought Jacob was renamed Israel after fighting God or whatever.

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u/dilldoeorg 18m ago

The same island Plato swore he saw before sinking into the ocean

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u/Kalichun 5m ago

I think they reference that by prophecy it would become a nation and it would be re-established and then in 948 they believe that came true

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u/ortcutt 4m ago

Modern Israel has nothing to do with ancient Israel or with ancient Judah. There is absolutely no continuity in the intervening 2670 years.