r/SquaredCircle • u/Shades_of_red_ • 1d ago
Exclusive | AEW star Pac’s cause of death revealed
https://nypost.com/2026/10/16/sports/aew-star-pacs-cause-of-death-revealed/2.1k
u/darthdiablo I AM THE TABLE 1d ago
TLDR: bronchial asthma
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u/poop_snausages 1d ago edited 1d ago
The article mentions he was found with medication in his vehicle. I have 0 medical knowledge. Would that be an inhaler?
Honestly knowing these details makes this feel more real for some reason, like the reality is setting in that this is actually something that happened. It's so upsetting, I am so sorry this happened to this poor man and his friends and family.
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u/SykeSwipe 1d ago
He had his rescue inhaler, for asthma it would be albuterol. He had what’s commonly called an asthma attack, people forget they are deadly.
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u/TheStinger87 1d ago
Well, being able to breathe is a prerequisite for living, so yeah, it's deadly.
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u/poop_snausages 1d ago
John Madden discussing life
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u/According_Register55 1d ago
“Marino’s going to need to take a few more breaths here to keep living.”
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u/darkshot177 1d ago
"Ya know who was really good at taking breaths? Brett Farve"
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u/poop_snausages 1d ago
Man, I was so disappointed to find out who Brett Favre truly is.
It's a great example of "throwing a ball really good doesn't make you a good person."
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u/BBoizTZH94 1d ago
For someone with asthma for 32 years, and constantly having to be admitted to the hospital during the first 10 years, this news hits abit to close for me. Damn.
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u/daddytorgo 1d ago
I had asthma as a kid. Closest I've ever felt to death was waking up having an asthma attack and having to wake my parents and them rushing me the like 15 minutes to the ER in the middle of the night to get on the nebulizer.
I'm 47 now and that memory is still terrifying.
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u/tcizzle00 1d ago edited 12h ago
I remember one night when I was 6, I was about to go to bed but then I was complaining to my mom that my ribs hurt and then at some point we were out the door and off to the ER. I had to get a nebulizer treatment bc I was also asthmatic so I think they were just covering their bases. But still scary none the less.
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u/tonysnark81 1d ago
My idiot spawn point has severe asthma. She smokes. When I was a kid, she’d be admitted to the hospital for two-three days, then come home and immediately light up again. This happened at least twice a year. Somehow, she’s made it into her 80s…
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u/tcizzle00 1d ago
I'm sorry but you calling your mom a "spawn point" is pretty hilarious. That's a new one I've never heard before lmao. 😂🤭
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u/tonysnark81 1d ago
Well, I never actually call her mom, so…
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u/HomerJSimpson3 1d ago
I’ve been NC with mine for 5 years… I’ve been referring to her as “the woman who birthed me.” Spawn point is so much better and I’m stealing it, thank you for sharing.
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u/poop_snausages 1d ago
I knew they could be pretty serious, it's really eye opening that someone as fit as PAC could pass from this.
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u/AllezLesPrimrose 1d ago edited 1d ago
Fitness or lack thereof has nothing to do with asthma, apart from obesity obviously putting more pressure on the respiratory system.
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u/poop_snausages 1d ago
Yeah, that's why I said it's very eye opening, because the misconception is that it does, and I'm learning that it really doesn't.
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u/Latch 1d ago
We had a thunderstorm come through one time that was real weird and fast and caused asthma to a huge portion of the people caught outside in it. Even people who don't have asthma had trouble breathing. The hospitals exploded. People died. It was fucked up.
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u/stereocupid 1d ago
When I was a teenager a friend of mine died similarly from an asthma attack. They're no fuckin joke.
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u/xGwiZ96x Bandit Keith: Best Intercontinental Champion of All the Times 1d ago
As someone who used to suffer from constant asthma attacks under stress, they are no laughing matter. They will bring the strongest people to their knees in an instant.
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u/pretzel_logic_esq 1d ago
I have fairly mild asthma but my last bout of bronchitis made me hustle to urgent care and hope they didn’t send me to the ER. I used my rescue inhaler 4x in an afternoon sitting at my desk. It’s scary. My dad’s asthma is pretty severe and if I’m around during an attack I wonder if I need to call 911 every time.
If you ever feel wheezy on exertion, tell your doc! Albuterol is cheap and easy to use, and having it close by can be a literal lifesaver.
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u/TiakerAvelonna I don't even watch; what the fuck am I doing here? 1d ago
Pharmacy tech here. If (generalized) you use your albuterol inhaler more frequently than your doctor told you, give the office a call. It's actually worse to overuse it (much like using Afrin more than three days in a row) and you may need another form of therapy.
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u/Floss__is__boss 1d ago
Not looked into this incident at all, but fyi some people take tablets for asthma as well. My partner takes montelukast.
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u/tydestra 1d ago
They probably also have a regular daily inhaler & a rescue inhaler depending on how severe their asthma is. I take montelukast, tribow inhaler for my daily, salbutamol inhaler as a rescue & get monthly xolair injections for my asthma. I had to be resuscitated as a kid (I was 6 yrs old) due to a severe attack I had.
Asthma is one of those conditions that is so varied from person to person and some folk don't take it seriously.
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u/TheTsunamiRC Suzuki-gun Ichiban 1d ago
Singulair is a leukotriene inhibitor which is used for some asthmatics. Additionally there are injectable medications for moderate to severe asthma given every 2-4 weeks.
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u/jaimeeallover 1d ago
I do a twice a day wexela powder and have my albuterol for short terms. Was a premie and I had really bad childhood asthma. It was in remission from about 15 to 27. It started flaring up again around 2 years ago. The wexela definitely helps the severity when I do need my emergency inhaler. I wonder why my asthma went away for that long. It probably doesn’t help that it started back up when I started smoking more.
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u/ManOfManliness84 1d ago
Having medication in his vehicle could include any prescriptions he might have, not necessarily anything having to do with his death. Remember, he was on the road so it wouldn't be odd to have all his prescriptions with him.
Hypothetically, he could have had things like painkillers, antidepressants, insulin, blood pressure or cholesterol meds, even things like high level painkillers or prescribed steroids. Any prescribed meds. It's just noting they were at the scene as they do their investigation, as they cover their bases in case of a wonky tox screen.
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u/Flanagan26866 1d ago
Where you have read it?
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u/poop_snausages 1d ago
In the article. Sorry, it says "in his vehicle" not "next to him" my brain kinda filled in the gap, I should correct that.
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u/Djent_1997 Yo daddy and yo uncle 1d ago
My brother has asthma. Idk of any variations, I just know he generally has asthma. Whenever he’s gone to the doctor for asthma-related symptoms, they usually prescribe him an inhaler as well as some type of steroid.
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u/El_Lu-Shin 1d ago
Fuck. So he had a crisis... Asthma is a chronic condition. I suffered it. What and horrible way to go... Rest in peace, legend.
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u/pudgybunnybry 1d ago
Bronchial asthma is pretty fucking serious. My dad, a diabetic, almost passed from it in the hospital before a heart surgery ended up taking him.
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u/dom_rep 1d ago
So he basically suffocated to death? Fucking awful
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u/NobodyIsHere3333 1d ago
Fuck man, that absolutely sucks.
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u/tdmatchasin 1d ago
I feel weird about this situation if just because he was found in his car (and not out of his car trying to get help or something). I don't actually want to see footage, but I would hope footage is available to authorities that could shine a light on how things happened. Or other details in the autopsy. There's some seemingly harmless & easily accessible things that can trigger an asthma attack (asprin/ibuprofen, beta blockers, ace-inhibitors).
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u/Equal_Oil_9819 23h ago
A car in front of him could've backfired, or a truck carrying some chemicals could've interfered with his car's ventilation. He senses an asthma attack coming, stays calm, pulls into a parking lot to get his meds, and just... doesn't make it. Fucking horrible.
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u/infinitylemons 22h ago
There's a lot of things that can trigger an asthma attack. Dust, pollen, smoke or exhaust fumes, cold weather, stress or emotional upset, any kind of respiratory infection putting strain on your lungs.
Asthma is scary. You're not getting oxygen so moving to try and get help might not be possible. Depending how easy it is to reach the medication, it might not be possible to get it before the attack is severe.
My partner is asthmatic and he says it feels like suffocating. We never leave the house without a rescue inhaler. 99% of the time it's fine, but that 1% is terrifying.
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u/K_Prime Your Text Here 1d ago
By himself as well….. That’s so terrible. :(
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u/HaroldTheIronmonger 1d ago
Thousands of miles from home.
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u/poop_snausages 1d ago
This is such a heartbreaking reminder of how sudden and unceremoniously life can come at any of us.
It doesn't always hit you when you're prepared and surrounded by your loved ones.
Life can come at you in the flash of an eye, while you're sitting in a rental car in the parking lot of a CAVA in Illinois, on a random Sunday at 4 PM, trying to get your Google maps to work.
It's very sobering.
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u/elRustyShackelford 1d ago
Enjoy life. Soak everything in. That’s what it tells me to do.
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u/_whatever_wherever Do it with purpose and give a shit 1d ago
And getting ready to go home as well....
Only the good die young.... fuck man
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u/Egomaniac247 1d ago
it's awful. I've had some asthma attacks and it's sheer panic inducing.
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u/HaroldTheIronmonger 1d ago
And then the panic makes the breathing worse. It's awful and nobody ever seems to understand.
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u/_whatever_wherever Do it with purpose and give a shit 1d ago
Speaking as someone who has panic attacks.... panic is a fucking bitch
She is a evil mistress who overrides every single sense and thought
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u/JG_92 -"I'm gonna kill him anyway!" 1d ago
For real. I saw a carton of orange juice on the counter one day after work and, in my sleepy stupor, started chugging. Wasn't until 3 gulps in it started burning. I stopped immediately and realised, in my sheer stupidity, that it wasn't orange juice but orange cordial (or squash). It's supposed to be diluted with water. I had about 15 servings worth in half as many seconds.
Nearly instantly, I couldnt breath, panicked, tore the house apart looking for my inhaler and nearly fell down the stairs looking for it. Thank fuck my father came home when he did. He had my spare in his glove box. Idk how far it could have gone, but jesus christ the panic haunts me.
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u/SlideRuleLogic 1d ago
Are you allergic to it or something? Or did you panic that you had 15 servings of the stuff?
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u/TheTsunamiRC Suzuki-gun Ichiban 1d ago
I once had a patient that was brought in as a traumatic arrest after crashing their car into a building. After resuscitating the patient, we quickly discovered that they hadn't gone into cardiac arrest due to trauma, but rather went into respiratory failure and then cardiac arrest while trying to drive to the hospital because of a severe asthma attack.
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u/_whatever_wherever Do it with purpose and give a shit 1d ago
And he was unable to take the medicine that would have saved him...
Jesus fuck this whole thing is horrible...
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u/BurningSpore 1d ago
It really is the worst. Personal experience, Sometimes its bad enough that the rescue inhaler doesnt really do the trick. i went to the urgent care a couple months ago with my blood oxygen dipping around the mandatory ambulance ride to ER level, they gave me 3 breathing treatments with the nebulizer and while i was still not well, i was well enough to talk them into letting me go home. Im shattered that he had to go that way.
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u/stumpyoftheshire 1d ago
Goddamn, Asthma is one of those things you don't really think about as being a killer, until someone does pass from it.
I've had 2 from my school year pass from it in the last decade.
It's just so goddamn sad man.
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u/bayleysgal1996 Last Rock-n-Rolla 1d ago
My asthma’s been in remission for over twenty years now, but every once in a while I go ahead and fill a prescription for an inhaler just in case.
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u/nmzzzz 1d ago
Do you guys take the steroid preventer inhaler?? I didn’t take it for years and a nurse had a go at me about it… since then I’ve been taking it every morning and every night before sleep…. I’d say it’s the reason I’ve had no symptoms since and I’m alive
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u/WickerPurse 1d ago
This is very important. I went wayyyyyy too long with only emergency inhalers. Any asthma sufferer NEEDS the daily control inhaler. Asthma gonna asthma. You need to be prepared.
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u/YUNOtiger Streak-End Denier 1d ago
That is not accurate. People with mild intermittent asthma do not need a daily inhaled steroid. Asthma is a highly heterogeneous disease without a one size fits all treatment.
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u/Jasperbeardly11 Al Snow Head 1d ago
I mean by the way those guys were talking about it it was pretty clear that what they were saying was way too blanket of a statement. What you're saying is clearly correct.
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u/BadNewsBrown Now watch me Bray Bray 1d ago
Anytime I get bad allergies I can just feel it in my lungs. Now I just have an inhaler in the gym bag that I haven’t used for 2 yrs
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u/Culinary-Vibes 1d ago
I haven’t had to rely on an inhaler for over 20 years as well, but 100% have one with me when I know I’m going to be doing a rigorous activity just in case. What a tragedy.
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u/chokethewookie 1d ago
Keep it filled. My asthma had been in remission for about 20 years and then earlier this year I got sick and all of a sudden it raged out of control and I'm still struggling to get back on track.
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u/miikro isn't even a real person! 1d ago
Mine was in remission until I got covid in 2020 and now it's no longer stress-related, it's almost constant. My brain has had a lot of trouble processing that instead of just using an inhaler when I have an attack, I'm supposed to do it every 4 hours now.
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u/superthrust123 1d ago
Always keep your rescue meds current. They last a long time and it takes two seconds at the doctor to ask. Most computers now even remind the doc if you need to fill something without you even having to ask.
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u/DontAskAboutMax 1d ago
Someone in a neighbouring school died from it at 13 years old :(
RIP Pac and Michael.
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u/Competitive_Help8485 1d ago
I had really bad asthma growing up, but it hasn't affected me in a long time thankfully. But anytime I get a cold or head cold I get scared it'll come back.
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u/TimmyHate 1d ago
One of my close friends died from it when I was 13 (he was 12).
Saw him at hockey training on Monday. Died Wednesday morning.
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u/lk79 BAAAAAM!!!! 1d ago
To save a click:
Officials have determined what killed wrestling star Benjamin Satterley.
A spokesperson for the Cook County Medical Examiner’s Office told the California Post on Monday that following a probe into his sudden death, investigators concluded Satterley — who performed in AEW rings as “Pac” — passed away from bronchial asthma.
The manner of his death was officially ruled natural, the rep added.
Satterley was discovered unconscious in a rental car outside of a CAVA in Des Plaines, Ill. at around 4 p.m. on Sept. 27.
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u/Scfbigb1 1d ago
That sounds like a horrible way to go.
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u/TheTsunamiRC Suzuki-gun Ichiban 1d ago edited 1d ago
Suffocation, effectively. With extreme asthma attacks, even assisted breaths are like trying to inflate a brick. In the worst cases I've dealt with, it took nearly 30 seconds for the patient to exhale each breath due to the severity of their bronchospasm (normal exhalation time is 2-3 seconds).
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u/Veearrsix 1d ago
Wow somehow I’d never considered that someone would have problems exhaling, and I have asthma. The fear was always the lack of inhalation. Either way you’re suffocating, but something about not being able to exhale sounds worse.
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u/TheTsunamiRC Suzuki-gun Ichiban 1d ago
Asthma is a disease of air trapping. Essentially the airways become narrowed by a combination of inflammation, bronchospasm (the smooth muscle lining the airways spasms, squeezing the airway) and excessive mucus production. The result is that air may initially get in, but it cannot get out. Obviously that eventually makes it impossible to breathe in as your lungs are filled with air that couldn't be expired. For extreme attacks like Pac must have experienced, we will often have to physically compress the chest to force air out after each breath. If you get to that point where you are completely unable to ventilate and your symptoms are not improving with medication (oftentimes after cardiac arrest due to respiratory failure) the best treatment is ECMO...this is a specialized treatment that effectively is a bypass machine like you would use for cardiac surgery, removing your blood to be oxygenated/remove carbon dioxide by a machine then returning it to the heart to be pumped to the body.
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u/WheedMBoise But I Digress 1d ago
The exhalation is almost always the problem actually as far as I know, that is the first domino that causes the rest
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u/rbphilly72 1d ago
Val Venis can go fuck himself peddling his anti-vaccine bullshit.
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u/Lep106317 *stares ominously* 1d ago
Oh I guarantee he'll use this as some other symptom of taking it. "SEE?! THE VACCINE CAUSES DEADLY ASTHMA! Fuck that guy.
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u/NoKaleidoscope178 1d ago
Don‘t need to give that unecessary piece of flesh any attention. He should Go back into irrelevance
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u/Greedy-Dot-1678 1d ago
And that asshole Hannibal who insinuated that Butcher and Pac died because they were juiced. Living breathing scum.
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u/SuperkickParty 1d ago
In Hannibal's defense drugs, CTE, and Hepetitises ABCDEFG killed all his brain cells years ago.
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u/marcusredfun 1d ago
It wasn't just Val, plenty of twitter grifters like the cheese board guy were posting about how AEW has a wellness problem.
There was also a really gross article from Salon (who usually has a decent reputation) trying to blame Pac/Butcher on wrestling culture by tying them in with all the steroid/painkiller deaths from the past.
Fuck Val of course but everybody knows he's a crank. A lot of irresponsible speculation was done by people who have bigger platforms than him and they'll all get away with it because news and social media move too fast for anyone to be held accountable for stuff that was said two weeks ago.
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u/TwistyBunny Brodie, Briscoe, Bray, Butch & Bastard Forever 1d ago
I hope like hell there is a Hell for pieces of shit like him.
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u/supd00d42069 1d ago
There are already tons of comments blaming steroids and vaccines on every social post about PAC :(
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u/iUsed2Bsomebody 1d ago
I have asthma and COPD. This really hits home. RIP Ben
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u/heartbreakhill Alexa, play Superman by Goldfinger 1d ago
My wife has asthma (not sure which kind) and our firstborn is due in March. I’m terrified every day.
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u/tydestra 1d ago
Asthma can be genetic but not always. My older brother and I have it, but our 3 other siblings don't. Environment triggers are also a big factor, hopefully your wife has a safe pregnancy. Best of luck to the 3 of you.
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u/PorkTuckedly 1d ago
I've got asthma myself, so this is scary for me.
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u/blackflamerose 1d ago
Same. Mine’s mild enough that Singulair controls it, but I’ve had a few dodgy attacks in my time….
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u/raspymorten The Creator of r/CurtisAxel 1d ago
Got a really good friend with it who's talked about having some serious close calls before. I knew it was bad, but jeezus man...
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u/Prestigious-Art1889 1d ago
Oh wow. I didn’t think Asthma could kill you, that must be so terrifying in your final moments
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u/JustATributeCC René Dupree Can Suck A Dick 1d ago
Yeah, it’s pretty not good. I had real bad asthma as a kid and I once had an asthma attack so bad, it hospitalised me for a week or two. Shit ain’t anything to take lightly at any age.
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u/Prestigious-Art1889 1d ago
I’m sorry you had to go through that man. We as a society need more asthma awareness
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u/JustATributeCC René Dupree Can Suck A Dick 1d ago
Appreciate that, dude. Thankfully, no lasting damage and I don’t really even remember it, truth be told. I was only 5, I think.
I remember I got the TV on wheels and the PS2 one day and I just played Spyro for a bit. That’s literally my only memory from it.
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u/SH4DOWSTR1KE_ 1d ago
The severity of it varies from person to person but either way it's one of those things that should never be taken lightly. I remember Batista talking about how his asthma is so bad he used to keep extra inhalers around the ring area and the announcers desk whenever he had a flare-up mid-match.
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u/MarkBonker 1d ago
To all the people dealing with asthma, take care of yourselves. Always carry your inhaler, you never know when you'll need it.
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u/iced_gold 1d ago
And if you only feel like your asthma is sort of controlled, see a specialist.
I did and they changed my regimen with preventative medicine entirely. I've never felt more empowered against the limitations asthma has held me back from.
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u/This-Site-Is-Lame 1d ago
The most important thing is to use your inhaler early. Even if you just feel a tingle or a slight wheeze, hit that inhaler! Most deaths come from the throat either getting too narrow or completely closing up so the medicine can't get down enough into your bronchial tubes. Inhalers are not always immediately effective either so precautionary puffs are important.
I've been hospitalized a few times because I wasn't cautious enough and things escalated quickly with my asthma.
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u/Corpse666 1d ago
Sudden-Onset (Type II / Sudden Asphyxic): Death can happen within 1 hour (and sometimes minutes) of symptom onset. Unlike slow-onset fatal asthma (which follows prolonged respiratory exhaustion or status asthmaticus), this rapid form can strike patients with seemingly mild, moderate, or well-controlled baseline disease
It most likely wasn’t prolonged. Just an extremely unfortunate and unexpected occurrence. Anyone who speculated on anything else should issue an apology if they have any sense of decency and integrity.
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u/__Hello_my_name_is__ 1d ago
Anyone who speculated on anything else should issue an apology if they have any sense of decency and integrity.
There's an entire place out there that wildly speculated and kept making sarcastic comments about AEW's lack of a wellness policy, implying that being the issue here.
None of those people will apologize.
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u/darthdiablo I AM THE TABLE 1d ago
100%, they're probably reading comments like yours, staying quiet and saying nothing, pretending they didn't make those kind of comments and were not part of that group.
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u/SupervillainMustache 1d ago
I'm shocked that this top level athlete even had asthma, let alone passed away from it at only 40.
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u/Karma-Effect 鈴木軍 1d ago
I've got family members who are otherwise fit, but have asthma. You can have the healthiest lifestyle, but you need your preventatives close by in case you have an attack.
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u/F7Uup 1d ago
Yeah asthma just is, a huge number of athletes have it, you can't train it away.
Also if it's treated it doesn't really impact your ability to perform.
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u/Lizuka 1d ago
It's more common in wrestling than you'd think, Batista's talked about how he had to keep an inhaler under the ring just in case.
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u/AmedeusRed 1d ago
Isn’t Billy Gunn a bad asthmatic, and that’s why he excels as a tag wrestler?
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u/WittyTell1299 1d ago
I believe its actually pretty common in elite athletes, you can actually develop it from intense training over years. No idea if that was the case with Pac of course.
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u/throwinken 1d ago
My only personal friend who went to college on a sports scholarship is extremely asthmatic. And he was a cross country runner of all things.
My kid recently had a chest infection and had to use an Albuterol nebulizer. He would get pumped as hell and super energetic after each dose. It made me wonder if the medicine helps them...
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u/EngelSterben I know nothing 1d ago
Anyone can have asthma. There are plenty of athletes that have it
Brett Pesce is an NHL player that has had since elementary school and keeps an inhaler if he ever needs it.
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u/ChasingPerfect28 1d ago edited 1d ago
Chronic conditions aren't always in a flare. As long as person can successfully manage their condition with the help of medication, these diseases go into remission for years or even decades at a time.
The thing that is terrifying is you have no idea what will trigger a flare to happen. Like, there's suggestions and rules of thumb. But everyone's bodies are so different and what might be a trigger for one person is completely benign to someone else (and vice versa).
Chronic diseases are incredibly complex and unfortunately very common.
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u/fiftypence 1d ago
That's crazy. You don't really think of asthma as something that can be fatal, especially when it's generally treatable. So sad that it led to his passing. RIP Pac.
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u/TheGiftOf_Jericho I'm from Winnipeg you idiot! 1d ago
Horrible, its so sad to think he went out this way. Still not over that he's gone.
On another note, this is why you don't speculate on stuff like this. The amount of people that jumped to incorrect conclusions on this was too much, its just disrespectful.
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u/Gbrown546 1d ago
And so many people leaped on the “does AEW have a wellness program” and “another wrestler who was obviously on the gear dying from a heart problem”.
Absolutely shame on any content creators who did this.
RIP PAC
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u/Vivid-Copy974 1d ago
I saw so many people saying he “died of steroids” like it’s a disease, like he caught a case of the steroids
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u/DontAskAboutMax 1d ago edited 1d ago
Asthma is brutal. A kid from a neighbouring school died from it when he was 13 years old.
It still sticks with me, school was really weird the next day and days afterward as many kids at my school knew him and hung out with him. Popular kid.
RIP Michael & Pac
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u/th3dj3n1gm4 The Galaxy's Greatest Alien 1d ago edited 1d ago
My mom has asthma. I know it makes it hard to breathe, hence why inhalers are a thing, but I'd have never guessed that's what caused this.
The way he wrestled, you'd have never known he even had it. Wasn't it...Willow, I think, that had to roll outside the ring a month or so ago and use her inhaler in the middle of match? That's terrifying to me and somehow makes a tragic event even more so because it was something so "common," for lack of a better word.
EDIT: It was Athena. Thanks for the correction, guys. I'm DJing and have had a few drinks, so my memory failed me.
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u/ACaulkGoblin 1d ago
Man listening to that 911 call was fucking sad.
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u/BirthdayCheesecake 1d ago
I feel horrible for the woman who called in. She did everything she could and it was already way too late.
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u/ACaulkGoblin 1d ago
Yeah that’ll stick with her for awhile unfortunately. Such a fucking shame. As the song goes Only The Good Die Young
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u/phiskaki 1d ago
Thats Awful. A pump could've saved his life
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u/Fotznbenutzernaml 1d ago
Impossible to tell for us.
Could have, could also not have helped at all. Could also he did have one with him and used it. We don't know.
But what you're meaning to say is absolutely correct and important: If you are aware of having asthma, no matter how annoying it is to carry that inhaler around which you "literally never need", it's impossible to tell when you will need it, and if that moment comes it can make a huge difference.
It's a bit unrelated, but in Bray Wyatt's case we know for a fact he was advised to wear the defibrillator vest, but he chose not to despite knowing about it. And that makes me feel all kinds of emotions... We all are often times just way too stubborn, often times not even realizing how much our stubborness can hurt.
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u/KeyJoke3580 1d ago
Let’s pump the brakes on that Bray comment and clarify he picked up his CPAP machine THAT DAY.
Took a nap, and died.
Sure in general context what you said is correct but it wasn’t like he flat out refused, it was the same day he got it.
Like many, probably thought I’ll take a quick nap and set things up before bed.
Plenty of people with sleep apnea take naps without wearing it.
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u/negative_mancy 1d ago
We're talking about two different things - a defibrillator vest if his heart were to go into an abnormal rhythm, and a CPAP machine to keep his airways open. From what I understand, he died because he wasn't wearing the defibrillator vest and went into cardiac arrest. I hadn't heard of him not using his CPAP as a contributory factor.
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u/wishlish 1d ago
My wife is a nurse practitioner. I asked her about this.
It's a horrible way to die.
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u/Tankisfreemason Your Text Here 1d ago
I hope every fake scumbag wrestling “news” source that reported an overdose finally get the banning they deserve from here and other socials
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u/bcegkmqswz 1d ago
I have nothing I can add but just commenting to say how sorry I am that he went through this. Heartbreaking. All the best to his loved ones.
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u/abeLJosh Johnny YourTextHere! 1d ago edited 1d ago
As a fellow asthmatic myself, I always feel like I'm near the verge of death if I'm doing way too much physically or running nonstop. The fact that PAC was able to wrestle the matches he did and move the way he did while having asthma as well?
This is breaking my heart all over again. The fact that it feels so sudden too, so PAC probably couldn't even grab an inhaler or vice versa...man.
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u/naturalheel 1d ago
Just a phenomenal wrestler. Amazing how he was able to do what he did despite a significant illness. Saw him more as Neville. When I’d go to live events and his intro came on, I’d get up on the edge of my seat a bit because I knew I was going to see some crazy shit. Really sad that he’s gone.
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u/nmzzzz 1d ago
Obviously I don’t know the individual circumstances of Ben’s asthma symptoms nor the severity of it…. But it has hit very close to home because I’ve had asthma pretty much my whole life, and I’m almost the same age.
If you have asthma, please read this: I stupidly didn’t take my steroid preventer inhaler for years. When I finally had an asthma review, the nurse was in disbelief that I didn’t ever bother taking the preventative steroid inhaler. I used to get a lot of symptoms. But since that intervention I take it every morning when I wake up and every night before sleeping… I don’t think I’ve had an asthma attack since and I barely get symptoms anymore, only when the air/weather changes! If you have asthma, please take this as a wake up call!
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u/braincloud215 1d ago
Beyond sad to consider that had he been inside the restaurant and not in his car, there’s a chance things may have turned out different.
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u/Officervito 1d ago
And to think so many people were saying: “oh it’s probably drug related”
Fucking gross people
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u/BalantaBanter 1d ago
Asthma attacks are a hidden killer, especially for adults
We usually forget the feeling of being in an attack until its too late. My asthma is well controlled, but even I suffered a bad attack in a parking lot a few years ago. I nearly left my inhaler behind that day too
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u/sicKlown 1d ago
That hits a bit close to home. My older sister has extreme asthma so I know just how sudden and terrifying those attacks can be, and it's heart breaking to think of how terrible those last few moments were for him.
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u/Qliphoth_Bacikal 1d ago edited 1d ago
What a horrible way to die from.
I had asthma up until around the middle of my high school years and it was really awful having to manage it when it was at its worst. Sleeping when you have it really bad was brutal, had to go to the hospital twice in one month to get it managed because of it. It’s been in remission since, and I sure as hope it never comes back.
Idk if PAC’s case is something that was left undetected up until that very moment or he had it well managed but just didn’t have an inhaler with him that day. Whatever it was, that’s scary and awful it happened like that after he had finished an event the night prior.
Edit: Someone posted in the comments here the report that PAC had medication around him when he died, which I assume given the cause of his passing that it could have been his inhaler he had. Again, whatever happened at the time of his death still sucks.
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u/MissVachonIfYouNasty 1d ago
A lot of people go into remission and then it comes back as you get older unfortunately.
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u/Beezybeezybeezybeezy 1d ago
So I've been hospitalized 10 times since October 2024 over asthma. It is not a fun way to almost go to, and I mourn him and what he was feeling in those last moments. Wouldn't wish this on anyone.
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u/imdeadinside1245 1d ago
life is so unfair like youre telling me brodie lee gets a lung infection and pac has an asthma attack both out of nowhere and no concrete origin, and now theyre both not here anymore
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u/Basic_Mark_1719 1d ago
Damn what's up with all these wrestlers dying from respiratory issues?
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u/Scfbigb1 1d ago
Im sure Val Venis will be along to grift about COVID vaccines or something equally stupid.
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u/QuoteCivil2631 1d ago
Val is an idiot. I’m slightly worried that Covid (the virus, not vaccine) has fucked up a lot of ppl and we are just starting to see LT impacts.
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u/Basic_Mark_1719 1d ago
I don't even think it's a grift with him, I think he's genuinely that insane.
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u/llamawithguns 1d ago
I mean, chronic respiratory disease is the 5th most common cause of death in US.
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u/bryan_pieces 1d ago
Same thing I was thinking. Lichasaurus had a really scary lung issue as well and luckily seems to be okay
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u/TwistyBunny Brodie, Briscoe, Bray, Butch & Bastard Forever 1d ago
A lung issue took out Brodie too.
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u/M_Waverly 1d ago
someone ELI5: so he had asthma? Either somehow undiagnosed or if it was, he happened to not have an inhaler or something with him when died? Either way, how fucking horrible.
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u/Moist-Acanthaceae-37 1d ago
Unfortunately sometimes an inhaler can’t help you. Not saying he did or didn’t have one but that just happens sometimes.
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u/cavegrind 1d ago
I had an asthmatic attack from a light case of bronchitis once. I mean, so light that I didn’t realize I had bronchitis. But suddenly I started having an asthma attack and I thought I was having a heart attack until my wife (who does have asthma) recognized the symptoms and let me use her emergency inhaler.
Sometimes your body responds in a totally alien way to something unexpected.
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u/BlueThunderBomb THE BASTARD 1d ago
I've been having some real bad asthma issues this year for the first time in like 15 years and I actually had a respiratory appointment cancelled just this week which is yet to be rescheduled, gives me the fear reading that, awful stuff very sad to hear.
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u/TurkeyVolumeGuesser 1d ago
Aw man, I have that too. Something really bad must have triggered his for it to go so haywire :(
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u/SunnyGamba 1d ago
heartbreaking and surreal to see someone who was so unbelievably graceful and athletic die to asthma of all things. RIP PAC
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u/the-big-aa Millennial with anxiety 1d ago
I literally just took a puff from my symbicort before reading this…fucking eerie
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u/FingazMC 1d ago
Bloody ell what a shame. The poor bloke.
The pisstake is, the doctors (in England) won't even prescribe those life saving blue inhalers anymore. All they gave me was a pink and white powder one that you click, it's a steroid or something (I'm not too sure i don't use it because it does fuck all) that you take once in the morning and once at night....
Wtf am I meant to do if I have an asthma attack. Utter pisstake.
No one Pacs age should be dying like that.
R.I.P Brother.
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u/svacheem45 1d ago
I'm wondering if he even knew that he was asthmatic? If he knew, he might have had a rescue inhaler to use in this very instance.
This sucks, man. Poor guy
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u/TrueCrimeInTheBuff 1d ago
I'm reading this thread while sitting in a dr's office waiting for my pulmonary specialist. Asthma is a nightmare.
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u/meeeehhhh2 1d ago
As someone that experienced an asthma attack, after awhile the emergency inhaler doesn’t work. Had to go to the ER and get on the good stuff when I was a kid.
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u/MissVachonIfYouNasty 1d ago
I've had asthma my whole life. If I have my nebulizer I just skip the inhaler all together and use the good stuff. In mild cases a rescue inhaler can stop the attack but a very severe attack you may need something stronger.
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u/augustaye Tajiri 1d ago
Please, anyone who has asthma, get a rescue inhaler.
Haven't had an asthma attack in ~7 years, then last Saturday Oct. 10th: random asthma attack after moving around stuff in the garden. Thought I was going to die. I had no rescue inhaler (insurance cut them out of my coverage). If it weren't for my neighbor who found me and gave me a freakin albuterol nebulizer treatment, i would not be here typing this
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