r/SteamOS • u/TheYungSheikh • Aug 28 '26
help wanted 120hz appears less sharp at same resolution
I tried to take a photo to show what I mean but it’s a bit hard to see. But at the exact same resolution, 120hz appears way less sharp than at 60. At 60, the quality is beautiful. I want to play at 120, but the quality is much worse. Is this due to lack of HDMI 2.1?
I’ve tried with and without HDR, VRR etc. In both 60 and 120, the TV says it’s the same resolution as well.
TV: Sony Bravia KD-55X9000H
PC: ASUS TUF Gaming B650M-Plus Wi-Fi CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X GPU: ASUS Prime Radeon RX 9670 XT
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u/Tepppopups Aug 28 '26 edited Aug 28 '26
Check if its RGB or YCbCr color in both modes. The second one uses less bandwidth, but has lower color resolution and may be a bit blurry with color fringing on sharp edges. It is used if your card, cable or monitor does not support higher bandwidth.
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u/Federal_Goose4545 Aug 28 '26
Yes it's due to the HDMI 2.0. HDMI 2.0 at 4k@120 is limited to 4:2:2 chroma subsampling, where as at 60 can do 4:4:4.
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u/SoLong_K Aug 28 '26
Check your tv settings mate. Especially sharpening, depending on the algorithm, may act differently on different resolutions and refresh rates.
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u/TheYungSheikh Aug 28 '26
It seems it’s because of the lack HDMI 2.1 as people have mentioned. It compresses the image because it doesn’t have it. On my PS5 it looks great with the same TV settings at the same resolution and frame rate
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u/SoLong_K Aug 28 '26
Compression shouldn’t be that visible mate. Even in test environments, it shouldn’t be easy to spot. Many pc users use compression without even knowing it. I hope the new cable fixes your issue, but insufficient bandwidth usually ends up with a black screen, not with a low-quality image. As a last-one test, I suggest you connect the pc using the PS5 HDMI cable(just unplug it from the PS5 and plug it into your PC).
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u/SoLong_K Aug 28 '26
Compression shouldn’t be that visable mate, even in test environments it shouldn’t be easy to spot. Many pc users uses compression without even knowing it. I hope new cable fix your issue but insufficient bandwidth usually end up black screen, not with low quality image. As last one test, I suggest you to connect the pc using the ps5 HDMI cable(just unplug it from PS5 and plug it to your PC).
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u/Vivid-Drink-5118 Aug 28 '26
hey mate, given this whole thread is about OP noticing the difference, it's fair to say the chroma subsampling is noticable ;)
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u/DerlisGs Aug 29 '26
Apreta boton " home + A " y te sale el menu y abajo sale para subir la nitidez
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u/sammcj Aug 29 '26
Looks like you're not using chroma 4:2:2 and have compression rather than raw 120hz 4K. For that you need hdmi 2.1 and kernel >=7.2 with the AMD patch for 120hz. If you're not comfortable with Linux or scripting I'd suggest that you might just have to wait for Steam to add support for it, if you are however you can patch it in a way similar to what I've done here: https://github.com/sammcj/steam-machine/blob/main/README.md
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u/LinkedHero Aug 28 '26
Because no hdmi 2.1
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u/TheYungSheikh Aug 28 '26
Strange that it’s an option if it can’t even do it then
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u/brunomarquesbr Aug 28 '26
No, actually you don't need it. Look https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamOS/s/lgGw6XY7pO
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u/slowlybecomingsane Aug 28 '26
You need hdmi 2.1 for 4k 120hz