r/TheOriginals • • Mar 22 '25

L.J. Smith, author of The Vampire Diaries, has passed away.

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Yes, The Originals was not based on any of her books but she was responsible for the creation of Klaus. And without her, Klaus Mikaelson would not exist today. RIP.


r/TheOriginals • • Sep 04 '18

[SIRELINE] The sireline situation explained FULLY.

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This is being asked ad nauseam so I thought I would spell it out for you all to stop the constant posts about it.

The sireline is the connection between an Original, such as Niklaus, and his (or her!) progeny who he creates with his blood. This applies to all vampires (but not all hybrids) and goes on down the line as more are made by each vampire that came before. This connection stems from the spell that Esther Mikaelson used to create the Originals in 1001 AD, as explained by Kol Mikaelson in Season 3 of The Originals.

Sireline status:

Niklaus broken / NOT destroyed - his sireline was severed by Davina and the Strix coven in Season 3 (Episode: A Streetcar Named Desire ). It resulted in him having no connection to his progeny anymore (and also the resurrection of Kol thankfully!). Characters such as Caroline are under no threat of death if Klaus dies.


Elijah broken / destroyed - his sireline was eradicated when the Hollow killed Elijah in Season 4 (Episode: Queen Death ). He was later resurrected but his sireline remained dead.


Rebekah intact - her sireline is intact, the only remaining one from inception in the year 1001, as of The Originals finale (August 2018).


Kol broken / destroyed - his sireline was eradicated in TVD Season 4 (Episode: A View to a Kill ). Could possibly create a new sireline beginning now...


Finn broken / destroyed - his sireline was eradicated in TVD Season 3 (Episode: The Murder of One ).


Mikael broken / destroyed - his sireline would have certainly been eradicated in TVD Season 3 when Klaus killed him with white oak (Episode: Homecoming) and also in TO Season 2 when he once again had a run in with Klaus who has the indestructible white oak stake (Episode: Night Has A Thousand Eyes). Although Mikael tended towards hating the vampire race, so it may be less likely that he even sired a bloodline at all.


Ultimately it isn't known if a sireline can be started again once destroyed due to the death of the Original who 'begat' the line. Obviously the remaining Mikaelsons can still sire progeny so one would assume that a new sireline could be created by Kol.

EDIT: It has been pointed out that due to the spell used to create the 'Beast', Marcel may well be able to create his own sireline due to it being reverse engineered Immortality Spell that Esther used on her children/husband. (Thank you /u/SlimReaper85)

EDIT 2: Sticky status woohoo! Also Mikael's sireline added for accuracy. (Thank you /u/NiklausShepard)

EDIT 3: As /u/Xil_Jam333 said below, it is likely that Mikael never actually sired a bloodline due to hating the vampire race. There is no proof either way of this but it does seem likely, although either way they are all dead!

EDIT 4: Per /u/ursulazsenya I have further explained that Klaus' sireline is severed but NOT destroyed (Caroline etc) as I had already said due to Davina & the Strix coven performing the blood spell to sever sirelines...


r/TheOriginals • • 14h ago

I think Cami understood Klaus without romanticizing the worst parts of him

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Something I really like about Klaus and Cami is that she could understand why he was the way he was without acting like his trauma excused everything he did.
She challenged him, called him out, and still saw the person underneath all the cruelty. I feel like their relationship was less about someone trying to tame Klaus and more about someone making him actually reflect on himself.

Do you think Cami brought out a side of Klaus that was already there, or do you think she genuinely changed the way he saw himself and other people?

I’m curious what everyone thinks, especially about how their relationship developed throughout the show.


r/TheOriginals • • 3h ago

Imagine An Upgraded Augustine Vampire (Enhanced Strength amplified tenfold from Ripper Virus and The Beast Serum A reversed engineered Engineered Immortality Spell that creates a superior vampire to the Originals, Superior Strength, Speed, Invulnerability to Sunlight, Magic, Lethal Venom Bite

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So this hypothetical mythical vampire I am referencing about is the charming, witted Damon Salvatore who during the 1950s was experimented by the Augustine Damon. He was injected with the Ripper Virus (a genetical amplifier that increases the Vampire Strength, A Major Physical Enhancement during Season 5) If another timeline, Augustine Damon appears in the Season 3 of the Originals Season 3 as an old friend and meets Freya Mikaelson. Klaus will be like this is Damon Salvatore an old friend. Freya being a beautiful smart and cautious (due to centuries of experience in trauma and survival) finds the older Salvatore brother very interesting person. So the situation where Damon undergoes this evolution into the Upgraded Augustine Damon is via by sneaking up on Lucien Castle (the charmastic cunning CEO) stakes him in the back before he drinks the serum. Then Damon takes the serum for himself, he drinks the reversed spell got shots by wood bullets. Afterwards boom the Upgraded Augustine Vampire. The same lethal bite (7 Werewolf Venoms of Bloodlines) Invulnerability to High Level of Magic. Invulernable to Sunlight, Normal Werewolf Venom etc. And The Ripper Virus also caused Damon for the urge of blood from other vampires. So as an evolution of the Upgraded Augustine Damon will lose the urgency for human blood. This also helps to stop Marcel Gerard from fulling the Prophecy (The fall of the Mikaelsons) since Damon can casually overpower The Beast Marcel.


r/TheOriginals • • 6h ago

Josh Whisper

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I have watched The Originals many times..

And the more I watch, the more I think Josh may have asked Marcel to make his peace with Klaus. Though I don't understand why they never revealed it.


r/TheOriginals • • 19h ago

Which feeling is worse? (For tvd and to fans)

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Realising your mother died because you wanted to meet your dad (hope) or realising you burned your mother’s last words to you (Caroline)


r/TheOriginals • • 13h ago

Question about Ancestral Magic

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Hello! I’m on my third rewatch of the originals and came across something I was confused on, in episode 2, season 1. Sophie Devereaux said if the witches moved away they’d lose their power, but since they’re witches can they not just switch to traditional magic like Bonnie or Grams?


r/TheOriginals • • 1d ago

Elijah Mikaelson 🖤🖤

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r/TheOriginals • • 1d ago

You as a original vampire hybrid vs Klaus mikealson both are equal strength ect ?

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If you was to become a original vampire hybrid do would stop him in a hand to hand combat also with white oak stack or will you possibly fail 🤔 ?


r/TheOriginals • • 1d ago

Unpopular opinion.

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(IK PPL ARE GOING TO DISAGREE SO WE CAN JUST DEBATE)

Klaus actions are way too justified like..why do ppl find it funny that he killed Tyler’s mother and then make jokes to him about it. HEAR ME OUT.. and Ik it can be just bc he’s a good character but klaus had no redemption for me and I don’t think ppl realise how evil his was. He did not deserve to find peace after dying also like😭😭I know Katherine is from TVD but she literally got sent to hell and klaus found peace? This is just my opinion tho.


r/TheOriginals • • 1d ago

Favorite funny small/random moments or quotes?

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Even subtle ones lol

My favorites off the top of my sleepy head:

1.)Aurora making Klaus chase down clues and Lucien’s following bugging klaus like a younger sibling lol. Klaus finds the painting and tells Lucien he made it for cami, walks away, yet Luciens the one who just, grabs it and continues walking with Klaus. Lol. I have no idea why Lucien taking the painting is cute/funny to me

2.) Hayley mad at Elijah for not including the wolves in the meeting and she snaps back with something like “and in the meantime I tell them what? Sit? Stay? Roll over?” (So many dog jokes for wolves and hybrids especially towards klaus lol)

3.) Elijah always entering the compound yelling “NIKLAUS! NIKLAUS!”

Klaus: you shout loud enough to wake the dead

(I’ll admit, I’ve used Elijah’s “it’s a default setting” irl as a joke when I get a chance lol)

I know there’s so many more. Like Elijah insulting Finncent and then klaus during dinners but he always insults the food at the same time lol. But I love the randomness to it. Like Klaus telling Elijah “they’re not my type” before getting serious about their situation in season 3 lol


r/TheOriginals • • 1d ago

Why all the secrecy?

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r/TheOriginals • • 2d ago

Camille 🌹 Spoiler

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First time watcher and I can guess you know where I’m at in it

ABSOLUTELY DEVASTATED

Nothing really made me cry upto now but DAMN this brought me too almost to my knees


r/TheOriginals • • 2d ago

Me irrita muito quando alguém faz uma pergunta burra como " porque os lobisomens de tvd/to são tão fracos?"

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Essa pergunta sempre com com a comparação com vampiros ou bruxas,sendo que a maldição do vampiro foi criada como PROTEÇÃO a pessoa que a tem, é feita pensando explicitamente para pessoa nunca morrer e ser extremamente forte a quase qualquer coisa já que a Esther e o Mikael eram dois obcecados pelo medo dos filhos serem fracos e acabarem morrendo por isso,enquanto a maldição dos lobos foi criada como uma forma dessas pessoas serem punidas e subjugados,eles tem uma transformação extremamente dolorosa ao qual de inicio não era feita para que pudessem controlar ( e só mt tempo depois houve os anéis para controlar a transformação) obviamente eles vão ser mais fracos que bruxas e vampiros,a maldição deles foi criada justamente para que eles sofressem


r/TheOriginals • • 3d ago

Ok I know I've made a post about Keelin and Freya before but..

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Whats everyones opinion on their relationship? I really like it and think its cute but others don't seem to agree. No Rudeness or Attacking others preferably please.


r/TheOriginals • • 2d ago

Damon edit

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r/TheOriginals • • 2d ago

I miss quiet scenes like this between Rebekah and Hayley

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One thing I really loved about The Originals was how the characters interacted when there wasn’t some huge supernatural crisis going on.

Scenes like this, with Rebekah pouring drinks while Hayley stands there clearly lost in thought, made the relationships feel real. Rebekah could be sarcastic and difficult, but in moments like these you could see how much she actually cared about the people around her. And Hayley became so much more interesting once she was treated as part of the Mikaelson family instead of a constant outsider.

I wish the show had given us more scenes where these characters were just talking, arguing, drinking and putting up with each other, without every conversation instantly turning into the next disaster.

Which two characters do you think had the most underrated dynamic in The Originals?


r/TheOriginals • • 2d ago

What would happen if a werewolf took the serum that Lucien created?

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r/TheOriginals • • 3d ago

I forgot how horrible season 4 and 5 were

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I'm currently doing a rewatch of so many TV shows and I forgot how GOATED The Originals was, especially the third season... that until season 4 hit. It's not unwatchable, it has it's really good moments. A standout to me is the scene where Hope and Marcel meet for the first time. They really should have used Marcel more in Legacies (actually they should have used all the Mikaelsons left more but that's for another day). The Hollow is downright terrible as a villain. None of the depth, reasoning, emotional implications that the other villains had. The moment they introduced the red door I was DONE, and I'm not even difficult like that but season 5 was just miserable to me. The last seasons will never be as bad as the last few seasons of TVD but it was still disappointing compared to the greatness the show was capable of.


r/TheOriginals • • 2d ago

Hot take Elijah is stronger than Klaus even as a hybrid

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Please try and change my mind

Klaus is a strategist and mastermind, Elijah is the muscle. Take away the weapons, no white oak, no dagger Elijah beats Klaus.

And most importantly if you take away Elijah’s need to redeem Klaus he beats Klaus fair and square


r/TheOriginals • • 3d ago

Finished season one

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I started watching the show on Prime Video because I needed something new and my best friend won’t stop talking about it lol. Anyways, I just finished season one and the finale has me in literal tears. Can y’all tell me something that about the next seasons that I don’t understand now but will later, and it will either shock/devastate me or make me laugh?

Also, I will be watching TVD when I get back home. I just don’t have access to anything but Prime Video right now


r/TheOriginals • • 3d ago

Why couldn't they just use guns against the witches in The Originals?

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I know that guns would ruin the magic vibes and all, but technically speaking wouldn't it be easier to defeat the evil witches that way? Because apparently originals vampires cant even touch Dahlia, The Hollow or any other evil witch. However, they're still mortals and dont have heightened senses. What if a vampire just sneaks up on them and shoots them? They wont even hear them coming.

Like I get that it would be too easy and there wouldn't be a show to watch if the villains got defeated in one episode, but couldn't have they at least addressed this possibility? And maybe provide an in-universe explanation why the cant so that?


r/TheOriginals • • 3d ago

The Originals was based entirely too much around Hope

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I totally get that Haley’s pregnancy and Hope’s life were huge deals in the TO universe. A pregnant wolf who became pregnant by the oldest and most powerful vampire/hybrid and then gives birth to a tribrid is obviously the most curious occurrence in history.
However, I do feel that the show had so much lost potential in regards to the Originals history. They had literally over a 1000 years of lore and drama which could have been explored so much more than what they bothered to do.
Especially for fans who have followed them and invested in the characters since TVD. I was so excited to watch and anticipated getting so much backstory to really see how their dynamics and relationships evolved over the years but we only got very little backstory which was mainly used as plot points to serve the current day narrative which again, was all based around Hope.


r/TheOriginals • • 4d ago

Were The Originals season 4 and 5 that bad?

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I know those seasons didn't live up to the hype of the first 3 seasons, but would you label them as flop seasons?

I really liked them!!! What are your opinions?


r/TheOriginals • • 4d ago

Which character in your opinion, overstayed their welcome and left too early?

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