How would you like to see the storyline play out?

I think if they never became originals and practiced witch craft here’s what I think they’d specialize in.

Freya: without trauma from Dahlia she’d probably specialize in healing magics she loves her potions and I can see her making a remedy for anything

Finn: Finn is harder for me to characterize but I think he’d do earth magic he’d probably want to impress his older sister and spell the soil to produce the herbs she needs or make it rain for his mother to do her laundry.

Elijah: Elijah suffers from being Mikaels son. I think he’d be a psych witch prioritizing mental stability he’d have incredibly powerful telekinesis so he doesn’t have to dirty his hands when he needs to.

Klaus: Klaus is prophetic. His paintings would tell what is to come and people’s desires his power is emotional which he’d probably hate that it’s not combat oriented and try not to hone it even though it’s his specialty.

Rebecca: Rebecca would create unbreakable marries and totems so she could be free to love who she wants her barriers will only allow who she wants in and she’s reinforce them over time.

Kol: forbidden/dark magic he’s a scholar he just loves to learn about magic and he’d probably be the only one to know how to use these spells without harm. he has books upon books and scrolls upon scrolls on magic you’re not supposed to do and want to do whatever made him feel good.

I’m rewatching the originals and JOSH is so funny.
When cami was training with haley and they used Josh as the metric for weak baby vampires I know he felt the shade. He’s always going about his day and an Original shows up and asks him to do something. It’s happened so much to the point where he just sighs and asks what they need.

I just realized that Crescent Wolves are basically equivalent to Quileute Wolves.

Name anything, it could be about a character or a storyline that in your opinion change everything.

I would say, when davina resurrected kol, kaleb also got revived as himself and has been taking refuge in Camille. She had been secretly hiding him until lucien comes to kill her and he shows up

The difference between TVD and TO Finn is because the character was ruined by bad writing imo.

No mention of Sage, the woman who waited for Finn for 900 years in TO. lol.

The show removed all the interesting parts of Finn and turned him into one of the most unlikeable characters and a villain without any good traits. He was overall used only as plot armor. 

What could be a potential storyline for Finn?

I’m on season 5 episode 7 and while I didn’t particularly like Hayley at times I liked her overall and these last two episodes were rough. I was dreading watching these episodes again but Hayley’s funeral was beautiful.

Currently rewatching and in S4E12-13, and Freya tells Keelin, “Compared to the rest of my family, my life will be so short” or something like that. I know she is no longer asleep for 100 years at a time, but does it ever explicitly state that she is now mortal?

I guess now I’m realizing as I write this that she was also afraid she wouldn’t make it home / back to Keelin when attacking the Hollow a few episodes ago. So whatever spell Dahlia had on them is now null and void? I know witches can do spells and such to extend their lives, but I’m referring explicitly to her general immortality given by Dahlia. Was this ever explained earlier and I missed it?

People underestimate Esther’s powers as a witch just because it wasn’t showcased to its full potential

Keep in mind, Esther has never fully practiced magic, she intentionally suppressed and didn’t learn it growing up, but she still was able to make the OG vampire serum

People underestimate how impressive this is, she literally created a whole species with enhanced, powerful abilities including (healing, speed, strength) - with its own way to turn and transition other humans, spreading her legacy

Without Esther, there would be no TVDU. If she took magic seriously throughout her whole lifespan, she would outperform the most powerful witches

Like everyone else is just incredibly traumatized and burdened with layers of depth and wisdom being a thousand years old, waxing poetic like "In life there are times when you choose to choose the other and times you find the other has in fact chosen you..." while Hayley's over here like, "I'm not dead - If I was dead you wouldn't be trying to kill me!" lmaooo.

Potentially controversial, and I am obviously open to counter arguments.

My take is basically the title. Celeste's cunning is kinda underrated, she's actually Katherine tier in that department.

Dahlia's biggest L was letting her guard down around Klaus (I actually like they foreshadow this being foolish when Klaus was hesitant to show Freya his mind earlier in the season). I feel like Celeste wouldn't ever have done that, even if she only had Dahlia's knowledge. This is purely about the disposition/intellect of Celeste, she was so wary of volatile personalities like Klaus she warned Elijah before Klaus' actions resulted in her death and had an insurance plan for anything like that. Evaded detection for centuries and was literally right under their noses as Sabine.

So this hypothetical mythical vampire I am referencing about is the charming, witted Damon Salvatore who during the 1950s was experimented by the Augustine Damon. He was injected with the Ripper Virus (a genetical amplifier that increases the Vampire Strength, A Major Physical Enhancement during Season 5) If another timeline, Augustine Damon appears in the Season 3 of the Originals Season 3 as an old friend and meets Freya Mikaelson. Klaus will be like this is Damon Salvatore an old friend. Freya being a beautiful smart and cautious (due to centuries of experience in trauma and survival) finds the older Salvatore brother very interesting person. So the situation where Damon undergoes this evolution into the Upgraded Augustine Damon is via by sneaking up on Lucien Castle (the charmastic cunning CEO) stakes him in the back before he drinks the serum. Then Damon takes the serum for himself, he drinks the reversed spell got shots by wood bullets. Afterwards boom the Upgraded Augustine Vampire. The same lethal bite (7 Werewolf Venoms of Bloodlines) Invulnerability to High Level of Magic. Invulernable to Sunlight, Normal Werewolf Venom etc. And The Ripper Virus also caused Damon for the urge of blood from other vampires. So as an evolution of the Upgraded Augustine Damon will lose the urgency for human blood. This also helps to stop Marcel Gerard from fulling the Prophecy (The fall of the Mikaelsons) since Damon can casually overpower The Beast Marcel.

I have watched The Originals many times..

And the more I watch, the more I think Josh may have asked Marcel to make his peace with Klaus. Though I don't understand why they never revealed it.

Hello! I’m on my third rewatch of the originals and came across something I was confused on, in episode 2, season 1. Sophie Devereaux said if the witches moved away they’d lose their power, but since they’re witches can they not just switch to traditional magic like Bonnie or Grams?

Something I really like about Klaus and Cami is that she could understand why he was the way he was without acting like his trauma excused everything he did.
She challenged him, called him out, and still saw the person underneath all the cruelty. I feel like their relationship was less about someone trying to tame Klaus and more about someone making him actually reflect on himself.

Do you think Cami brought out a side of Klaus that was already there, or do you think she genuinely changed the way he saw himself and other people?

I’m curious what everyone thinks, especially about how their relationship developed throughout the show.

Realising your mother died because you wanted to meet your dad (hope) or realising you burned your mother’s last words to you (Caroline)

(IK PPL ARE GOING TO DISAGREE SO WE CAN JUST DEBATE)

Klaus actions are way too justified like..why do ppl find it funny that he killed Tyler’s mother and then make jokes to him about it. HEAR ME OUT.. and Ik it can be just bc he’s a good character but klaus had no redemption for me and I don’t think ppl realise how evil his was. He did not deserve to find peace after dying also like😭😭I know Katherine is from TVD but she literally got sent to hell and klaus found peace? This is just my opinion tho.

If you was to become a original vampire hybrid do would stop him in a hand to hand combat also with white oak stack or will you possibly fail 🤔 ?

Even subtle ones lol

My favorites off the top of my sleepy head:

1.)Aurora making Klaus chase down clues and Lucien’s following bugging klaus like a younger sibling lol. Klaus finds the painting and tells Lucien he made it for cami, walks away, yet Luciens the one who just, grabs it and continues walking with Klaus. Lol. I have no idea why Lucien taking the painting is cute/funny to me

2.) Hayley mad at Elijah for not including the wolves in the meeting and she snaps back with something like “and in the meantime I tell them what? Sit? Stay? Roll over?” (So many dog jokes for wolves and hybrids especially towards klaus lol)

3.) Elijah always entering the compound yelling “NIKLAUS! NIKLAUS!”

Klaus: you shout loud enough to wake the dead

(I’ll admit, I’ve used Elijah’s “it’s a default setting” irl as a joke when I get a chance lol)

I know there’s so many more. Like Elijah insulting Finncent and then klaus during dinners but he always insults the food at the same time lol. But I love the randomness to it. Like Klaus telling Elijah “they’re not my type” before getting serious about their situation in season 3 lol