Tropes that became problematic

[u/KalzK]

The Persistent Suitor: A guy who is after the girl and just wont take no for an answer. Nowadays we just call stalking and harassment, but it used to be romantic. Example: The Notebook (2004), Noah asks Allie out while she's on a date with another man. She refuses, but he threatens to let go and fall unless she agrees to go out with him.

Comedic Woman On Man Violence: Mostly seen in anime, recently it has decreased a lot but years back every show had a woman hitting a guy and showed it as funny. Example: Toradora!, where the quintessential tsundere, Taiga, beats up the MC regularly.

Kid Bags Adult Baddie: I remember a few of these, sometimes it was to show how cool and awesome a kid was because an adult woman fell for him, now it's just seen as problematic shit. Example: Blank Check, the woman likes the kid and kisses him telling him to look for her in 10 years.

[u/Teebeejay97]

the makeover trope where a girl with curly hair and glasses straightens her hair and takes off the glasses and suddenly becomes beautiful. the curly hair part is genuinely so disgusting because you can only imagine the damage it did to girls with similar hair textures.

[u/Independent-Couple87 → u/Teebeejay97]

The Clark Kent effect.

https://giphy.com/gifs/pqFbHWj0vRqmY

[u/Ambaryerno → u/Independent-Couple87]

And then you see Christopher Reeve do it and you're like, "Oh my God I get it now."

[u/royalbk → u/Ambaryerno]

That scene was flawless for me. Like the way he suddenly switches "personalities" is so natural...it actually changes his whole look.

Absolute cinema

[u/MinnWild9 → u/royalbk]

If you look closely, his “look” changed because he was subtly slouching as Kent. Then, as he removed the glasses, he stopped slouching and “grew” taller. He even puffs out his chest a little. In addition, the micro expressions in his face shift as well. He goes from looking slightly down to looking straightforward, his smile becomes more genuine, etc.

[u/LiquorIsQuickor → u/MinnWild9]

Are you explaining it in case we don’t notice? Or to devalue the scene?

[u/OAZdevs_alt2 → u/LiquorIsQuickor]

I think they just wanted to explain precisely how the effect was achieved because they liked the technique

[u/TheSprigganDragoon → u/royalbk]

An actor acting as a guy acting as another guy. How hard could it be?!

[u/Lobo2ffs → u/TheSprigganDragoon]

What do you mean "you people"?

[u/WhyattThrash → u/Ambaryerno]

Yeah but what that scene makes obvious is it’s not just the costume, it’s 99% demeanor. In other words,
https://giphy.com/gifs/U5hvUeqw10e0U

[u/meteorflan → u/Ambaryerno]

He also completely changes his posture.

[u/schiffb558 → u/Ambaryerno]

God, what a legend. Rest in peace.

[u/laurel_laureate → u/Ambaryerno]

I never got it, even watching the series.

They still have the same face.

Serious question- Are most folks just face blind or something?

[u/RadiantTurnip1 → u/laurel_laureate]

In the comics, the modern approach is basically that everyone knows Clark Kent looks like Superman, but no-one thinks Superman has a secret identity. It makes sense for people who don't spend a ton of time with him in both identities - if you didn't already know, what makes more logical sense - that this random just looks like Superman, or that this random guy is secretly Superman pretending to be a regular guy? It helps that Superman doesn't wear a mask, gives his real name as Kal-El and doesn't ever imply he has another identity, so everyone just assumes he's Superman full time. Plus thanks to Clark being friends with master of disguises like Batman and literal shapeshifters like the Martian Manhunter, plenty of people have seen Clark and Superman together over the years. For people like Lois and Jimmy who do know him well in both identities, it's a little more unbelievable, but Lois has known for decades in the comics now, and most adaptations just have her know from the start.

[u/InflationRepulsive64 → u/RadiantTurnip1]

The other thing is, in terms off villains the vast majority of his villains simply aren't people who'd care. They're either strong enough to punch on with Superman and thus don't really give a shit about cute things like secret identities, or they're mooks with super powers. I

It's 99% just 'Does Lex know or is he willfully ignorant?'

[u/laurel_laureate → u/RadiantTurnip1]

That's rather interesting, thanks for that.

But I was specifically talking about the Christopher Reeves gif above.

That would never fool me irl.

But I suppose that can be explained away with shapeshifter body doubles for plausible deniability.

[u/WhyattThrash → u/laurel_laureate]

You might wanna see the movie, or at least a clip of it over a 2 second gif

Here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRglvEvjcRg

[u/laurel_laureate → u/WhyattThrash]

My friend, I've watched the movie at least a dozen times.

I've watched all Superman, and other DC, movies at least a few times.

The last Reeve movie I watched in theatres on release day.

None of that has changed my opinion on the matter.

[u/velawesomeraptors → u/laurel_laureate]

It would 100% work on me but I have a bit of face blindness. Like, if you waited a few days and gave me 10 pictures of white actors with dark hair I probably wouldn't be able to pick out Christopher Reeve lol.

[u/Ricktor_67 → u/laurel_laureate]

He makes himself shorter, acts totally different, sometimes has a superman double like a robot(or have batman dressed as superman) and him be seen together so its very clearly two different people.

[u/laurel_laureate → u/Ricktor_67]

The double changes things, sure.

But the posture and acting would never fool people, when dealing with a celebrity that is literally an alien god.

Even if we ignore the paparazzi and the obsessed masses, too many agents from too many organizations from too many nations are gonna be watching every available recording of him for him to get away with that for long, if at all.

So, yeah, without the doubles it would never work.