An adaptation completely botches the original theme and message

[u/Morr4Seiya]

Mulan(2020)-They give Mulan superpowers which is not only lame it goes against the message of the original about equality and struggle,plus they removes Shang because apparently having Mulan date her superior was "problematic" even though Shang genuienely respected Mulan and their rank was never brought up

I am Legend(2007)-You know why the story is called "I am legend"? SPOILER ALERT the protagonist is the actual monster,humanity is gone and the vampires have a actual society and the protagonist kills and terrorize them

Animal Farm(2026)-On the very slim chance that Andy Serkis ever sees this,here's the thing Andy,Animal Farm was not a children work it was not supposed to have a happy ending,you never heard of cautionary tales before?

[u/Ok-Letter3963]

Mind you, all of the changes to Mulan 2020 were meant to specifically pander to China, which is ironic because China ended up fucking hating this movie.

[u/Commercial_Comb8674 → u/Ok-Letter3963]

The film also gave a “special thanks” credit to a concentration camp, and Disney defended it when they were called out.

[u/Ethan-E2 → u/Commercial_Comb8674]

They didn't directly thank the concentration camp; they filmed in the Xinjiang region, where camps are located, and thanked the province's government.

So it wasn't as direct as it sounds, but is still thanking a group who are directly involved in it (and it's not like they couldn't have filmed literally anywhere else in the world).

[u/NDinoGuy → u/Commercial_Comb8674]

And the actor for Mulan in the live action remake is a CCP bootlicker who supported the brutal beat down on Hong Kong protestors.

[u/MostlyAlways47 → u/Commercial_Comb8674]

I'm sorry hwat?

[u/Commercial_Comb8674 → u/MostlyAlways47]

The film gives a “special thanks” credit to the Turpan Municipal Bureau of Public Security, an organization sanctioned by U.S. Department of Commerce for, “human rights violations and abuses in the implementation of China’s campaign of repression, mass arbitrary detention, and high-technology surveillance against Uyghurs, Kazakhs, and other members of Muslim minority groups.”

They’ve been linked to the operation and oversight of multiple internment and “re-education” facilities in the Turpan area, including 8-14 estimated sites.

[u/nocauze → u/Commercial_Comb8674]

Lmao the whole Uyghurs concentration camps come off as kind of a joke when you see the rape prisons ICe is running on poor immigrants in the US

[u/DowdyShihTzu → u/nocauze]

I mean, both can be bad? The U.S. having ICE doesn’t immediately invalidate China’s problems.

[u/nocauze → u/DowdyShihTzu]

Also to add, Americans do nothing but complain about immigrants as a “problem” that needs to be “solved” because of “assimilation and culture”, what’s been the US solution historically? Concentration camps, mass deportations, genocide, and ethnic cleansing across the globe. China comes up with actual education camps so immigrant cultures that are indigenous to the region can assimilate without butchering them wholesale and dumbass Americans get REALLY upset about it.. fucking joke of a peoples.

[u/nocauze → u/DowdyShihTzu]

It absolutely does, especially where there is literal proof most of this is fabricated CIA BS

[u/Commercial_Comb8674 → u/nocauze]

No. Ice does not operate “rape prisons” targeting “poor immigrants.” That description is hyperbolic rhetoric without evidence.

A JAMA analysis of ICE facility reports covering September 2018 to April 2022 which examined 129 locations identified, of 922 sexual assault allegations, only 118 (12.8%) were substantiated.

Combining detainee and non-detainee inmate perpetrators accounted for the majority of allegations (70.5%). Among allegations against staff, only a minority (3.3%) were substantiated.

Documented allegations of sexual assault and abuse do occur in some ICE detention facilities and are real problems which warrant scrutiny, but failures of oversight, investigation quality, or conditions in specific facilities do not equate to ICE running “rape prisons.”

I don’t like Trump, and there are problems in the ICE detention system, but inserting your political grievances over the deliberately targeted discrimination of Muslim ethnic groups in China is certainly a choice.

[u/nedelll → u/Commercial_Comb8674]

US said so it has to be true

[u/Commercial_Comb8674 → u/nedelll]

The U.N. put out an assessment in 2022 where the found credible claims of detention that, “may constitute international crimes, in particular crimes against humanity.” They also condemned the Chinese government for framing the camps as, “vocational education and training centers.”

I hate having to keep saying this to people: it takes ONE internet search.

[u/nedelll → u/Commercial_Comb8674]

Oh pardon, the U.N. said so it has to be true

[u/Commercial_Comb8674 → u/nedelll]

Oh, well I’m sorry. It’s not like the Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI) mapped detention facilities via satellite imagery and open source data.

It’s not like independent researchers and mappers like Shawn Zhang documented re-education centers.

It’s not like Adrian Zenz, a director and senior fellow in China studies at the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation, released analyses pointing to the internment of Muslim minority groups.

It’s not like Radio Free Asia (RFA) reported directly from Turpan police officers confirming the operations of at least eight camps.

It’s not like the East Turkistan National Awakening Movement released coordinates and details of multiple concentration camps and prisons linked to mass internment.

Just food for thought.

[u/ladylucifer22 → u/Commercial_Comb8674]

adrian zenz? the delusional trumper?

[u/Commercial_Comb8674 → u/ladylucifer22]

Zenz is not a “delusional Trumper” from what I could find about him.

The most direct connection I could find between him and Trump was the former’s research being used by the latter’s first-term administration, a practice continued under Biden’s. Zenz actually criticized Trump in 2020 over failures to properly issue a formal ruling on crimes in the Xinjiang region of China, calling them, “a shortcoming.”

Any public criticism I could find against Zenz, included alleged “far-right” leanings, appear to come from Chinese state media and some Western outlets aligned against his findings.

[u/nedelll → u/Commercial_Comb8674]

Lmaooooooooo radio free asia, victims of communism memorial foundation, are you gonna say Netanyahu said something about it too

[u/Commercial_Comb8674 → u/nedelll]

Respectfully, from the bottom of my heart, go fuck yourself.

Admittedly, I was purposely derogatory in my last response to you, but your comments to me have been akin more to an ignorant troll than legitimate debate and criticism.

Also, just while I’m here, while Israeli policy has occasionally aligned with broader international criticism of the camps, there were no public remarks made by Netanyahu directly himself I could find on the matter.

[u/Super-Nitro-Z64 → u/Commercial_Comb8674]

The film also gave a “special thanks” credit to a concentration camp, and Disney defended it when they were called out.

What the hell?! That's just messed up! And the fact that Disney defended that makes it so much worse!

[u/Commercial_Comb8674 → u/Super-Nitro-Z64]

They tried to hide behind the “it’s industry practice” when thanking  local government entities.

[u/ThatMLGGamer → u/Commercial_Comb8674]

wait seriously

[u/Commercial_Comb8674 → u/ThatMLGGamer]

I just posted an explanation.

[u/ThatMLGGamer → u/Commercial_Comb8674]

I just read the comment... oh dear

[u/toad-supremacist → u/Commercial_Comb8674]

wtf?

[u/Commercial_Comb8674 → u/toad-supremacist]

I’ve explained elsewhere.

[u/toad-supremacist → u/Commercial_Comb8674]

ok thanks, i see them now

[u/belliebun → u/Commercial_Comb8674]

Elaborate??

[u/Commercial_Comb8674 → u/belliebun]

I explained in another reply.

[u/Vaivaim8 → u/belliebun]

They are being being disingenuous. The production didn't thank a concentration camp. They thanked a local government. Despite what they are trying to say, it IS an industry practice to thank all entities that aided in producing a movie.

Ask yourself this, are you supporting the war in Iran because a movie credited the DOD/US Army/USMC/USN? Obviously no. Are you against abortion because the State of Georgia was credited as a partner in the production? Definitely not.

[u/Commercial_Comb8674 → u/Vaivaim8]

The film gives a “special thanks” credit to the Turpan Municipal Bureau of Public Security. The organization has been condemned and corroborated by multiple groups, including the U.S. Department of Commerce, the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, Radio Free Asia, and multiple independent researchers for running the camps.

While a drastic example, that’s like saying a film from 1933-1945 doesn’t commend a Nazi concentration camp when it was filmed near Auschwitz and lists the SS among its special thanks credits.

[u/ToonMasterRace → u/Commercial_Comb8674]

That’s okay nobody gives a damn about those in general anymore.