r/TopCharacterTropes • • 11d ago

Hated Tropes An adaptation completely botches the original theme and message

Mulan(2020)-They give Mulan superpowers which is not only lame it goes against the message of the original about equality and struggle,plus they removes Shang because apparently having Mulan date her superior was "problematic" even though Shang genuienely respected Mulan and their rank was never brought up

I am Legend(2007)-You know why the story is called "I am legend"? SPOILER ALERT the protagonist is the actual monster,humanity is gone and the vampires have a actual society and the protagonist kills and terrorize them

Animal Farm(2026)-On the very slim chance that Andy Serkis ever sees this,here's the thing Andy,Animal Farm was not a children work it was not supposed to have a happy ending,you never heard of cautionary tales before?

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u/MostlyAlways47 11d ago

I've never watched the series but while reading the books I genuinely thought thats where the story was going for a bit because some of the prophecies of the dragon end up getting fulfilled by other people like the horn being blown.

Not specifically stating it was a man who would fulfill the prophecy makes zero sense because why wouldn't they just gentle every dude they come across.

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u/Due-Quote4091 11d ago

Yeah they do gentle every man they can find that can be gentled, but they need to be able to channel to be gentled. Its not something that can be done preemptively.

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u/MostlyAlways47 11d ago

My point is that even within the series of books the majority of Aes Sedai were very wary of Rand even after he'd fulfilled multiple prophecies and that was with unequivocal proof that the chosen one would be a man. If that prophecy was more ambiguous then pretty much everyone would have defaulted to the chosen one definitely being a woman because of the tainted male half of the source. There would be no chance of them accepting Rand as the chosen one.

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u/Due-Quote4091 11d ago

No hate, but I have no idea what point you are trying to make.

Are you saying it made 0 sense for the prophecies to not state the Dragon would be a man in universe? Or that it makes 0 sense for Robert Jordan to not write them that way?

And either way, people rejecting Rand as the Dragon Reborn despite mounting proof over the series is a pretty deliberate theme, and not particularly innaccurate to how people behave irl when presented with proof to an idea they disagree with. Not inaccurate at all

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u/MostlyAlways47 11d ago

Robert Jordan did write it that way? Did you not read the comment I replied to?

We are talking about the difference between the show and the books.

Within the books people are still skeptical despite the prophecy explicitly being about a man.

Within the show apparently they made it ambiguous which makes no sense because given the context of the world literally nobody would have believed him ever. Even average Joe's knew the dragon would be a man which is how logain and taim were able to aquire followers. Without that unequivocal certainly people would have, as I said before defaulted to believing an Aes Sedai is definitely going to be the chosen one cause they don't tend to go insane and break the world.

There's so many plot points including the infighting of the Aes Sedai that wouldn't be reasonable without that seed of doubt that the prophecy explicitly provides.