r/TopCharacterTropes • u/Hour-Necessary2781 • 9d ago
Characters (funny trope)While their fate is left intentionally vague, with real life historical context we know they’re absolutely fucked.
Ramon from Scary stories to tell in the Dark: Ramon’s a draft dodger of the Vietnam war trying to avoid the same fate as his brother but after he goes through his character arc of becoming a braver person he decides to finally go to Vietnam at the end of the film. The problem is the movies set in 1968 which means they’re still 7 years out from Saigon. While it’s possible he’ll be fine, there is the likelihood he either gets seriously injured or straight up dies.
Agent Mansley from the Iron Giant: Mansley acts as the main antagonist of the film with it coming to head when he steals a five star general’s walkie talkie and orders a nuke to be sent directly to the town to kill the iron giant. We see him getting arrested after this and then he disappears for the remainder of the film. With that being said the movie takes place in the 50s in the peak of McCarthyism/Cold War and he did just commit high treason against the US by launching a literal nuke on American soil. Best case scenario is he gets executed by firing squad outside of city limits and buried in a shallow grave never to be talked about again. Most likely scenario is he gets disappeared by the government and taken to some unknown black site to be tortured by CIA to figure out when he was compromised by the Soviets.
Edit: since so many people have pointed out (some more rudely than others.) that only about 2% of American soldiers died in Vietnam, I decided to add to the original post as to be more accurate. Hopefully this will be enough for my transgressions to be forgiven.
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u/Dry-Yesterday-9176 9d ago
In movie mummy 3, one of the main characters at the end gets into the taxi and says "as far away from mummies as possible. Peru, here I come!"
Movie ends with text that says "year later, a mummy was found in Peru"
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u/cheesecakeobsessive 9d ago
He's set to appear in the 4th one so he's most likely still alive.
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u/IrascibleOcelot 9d ago
Jonathan was a coward who knew when to run, so while he likely went through some shit, he also likely survived. He also tends to make out like a bandit from his adventures as well.
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u/PurveyorOfKnowledge0 9d ago
Robert Candler from Tarzan the Animated Series. Robert was Jane Porter's childhood friend from London, who worked for the Queen of England as an espionage agent during WWI until he was eventually revealed as a double agent who committed high treason by stealing government secrets to sell to the Germans. He ends up in Tarzan's jungle on the run and meets Jane again but is eventually discovered. He's arrested and taken back to England and tells Jane he hopes he can see her again but all context makes it clear that man is dead the day he gets back to England.

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u/Spacer176 9d ago edited 9d ago
There were a few prominent hangings of Nazi collaborators after the Second World War (William Joyce and Theodore Schurch were the last two men to be hanged for something that wasn't murder in 1949), so he's 100% destined for the noose.
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u/Dare_Soft 9d ago
Weird to me Disney had good animated shows based on their films and not a lot of people talk about it.
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u/FireZord25 9d ago
Loved that show continuations like Tarzan and Aladdin had such good world building and expanded roster.
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u/CHAMTake2 9d ago
Hercules still got me singing the little jingle for whenever Aphrodite shows up, lol
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u/PlayingProductions 9d ago
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u/TimeRisk2059 9d ago
She's fine, she's living on a nice farm in the countryside.
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u/Evielikesfilm 9d ago
Not real life but The Unsullied at the end of Game of thrones leave to an area called Naath thats known for butterfly fever so we know they all die basically.
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u/WeiganChan 9d ago
The Unsullied are also all eunuchs so even if any of them survive, the ‘house’ they establish is lasting for one generation unless Westerosi inheritance law gets real cozy with adoption soon
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u/KazuyaProta 9d ago edited 9d ago
Westerosi law has plenty of adoption clauses tbh. A lord naming someone non closely related a heir is something that can happen.
Said this, they are actually operating in Essosi law, which still, as a comercial culture, they likely ALSO have even more clauses for non biological children
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u/majorjoe23 9d ago
Butterfly fever? That sounds adorable!
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u/pacmanfunky 9d ago
Oh it's really not, basically so called because naath is called a tropical paradise with an abundance of butterflies.
But they are said to carry disease that only affects foreigners and essentially your flesh just comes off of your bones.
It's said no foreign person has lasted longer than a year living on the island.
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u/seahawk1977 9d ago
That's not adorable at all!!!
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u/WillowLocal423 9d ago
But it comes with free frogurt!
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u/seahawk1977 9d ago
That's good!
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u/peachesfordinner 9d ago
The frogurt is also cursed
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u/curry_man56 9d ago
It actually sucks, it’s not really a fever it’s that an actual butterfly comes in, goes through any opening in your body and takes over your body. There was actually an outbreak of butterfly fever in a town called Evergreen, Washington in 2022. Luckily it has been curtailed thanks to some heroes and a butterfly that found out it was wrong to do that.
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u/Hector_P_Catt 9d ago
"Heroes"? Yeah, right. I heard one guy was the son of a Nazi.
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u/AnarchaOblix 9d ago
The good(bad) news is that Naath is a notoriously common source for slaves in Essos, and its likely that a good portion of the Unsullied have the immunity to the Butterfly Fever that is common on the island.
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u/SYLOH 9d ago edited 9d ago
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u/mormonbatman_ 9d ago
The person who bullied the lead character is fucked.
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u/PurveyorOfKnowledge0 7d ago
Yup, the little bastard wanted to be a man, and now he gets to "fight like one" against men who fight back.
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u/Ok_Simple9009 9d ago edited 9d ago
The characters of HBO show Warrior (2019)

While Ah Sahms and the rest of the character fates are unkown due to the show being canceled afer season 3; The era of Chinese tongs and the violent Tong Wars in the United States ended by the early 1930s due to a combination of natural disasters, legal pressure, and demographic shifts
The biggest event to cause the decline of the Tongs was the 1906 San Francisco Earthquake, which destroyed Chinatown's physical infrastructure, wiping out gambling dens, brothels, and other illicit revenue sources that funded tong operations.
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u/DistrictDry2852 9d ago edited 9d ago
It’s crazy I went to Chinatown recently and read before the earthquake they did literal open air slave auctions of Chinese women. Then the fire happened and not only did they relocate they basically rebuilt as a tourist attraction.
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u/HawtVelociraptor 9d ago
Dang, it was canceled? I forgot about it but was hoping there'd be more.
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u/mightypistachio 9d ago
lol this is the only time I've ever seen Warrior mentioned in the wild. shoutout young jun
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u/switch_hitter805 9d ago
Remember me (2010)- Robert Pattinson makes up with his father after a movie's worth of drama and goes to meet his dad for lunch at his office....on the 101st floor of world trade center..... On September 11th 2001.
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u/TransSapphicFurby 9d ago
Didnt the planes hit at like 9 in the morning, what sort of fucking lunch is dad eating?
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u/Time_Traveling_Idiot 9d ago
The first plane hit at 8:46AM so... he'd have had to enter the building at, like, 8:25AM at the very latest.
10m for a visitor pass + 2m elevator the 78th floor sky lobby + 5m to transfer to the local elevator and go up to 101st + walking to the office window 3m.
Sooooo if he really went there for lunch, that means he set off before like 8AM.. for lunch. Hm.
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u/SuperScrub310 9d ago
So in otherwords the writers couldn't be arsed to look up the time when the planes hit and change 'lunch' to 'breakfast'.
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u/I_need_a_better_name 9d ago
Unlikely a western adult in 2010 didn’t know the attacks happened in the morning.
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u/FamousWerewolf 9d ago
His fate's not left intentionally vague, the movie is very clear that he was killed and depicts the aftermath of it.
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u/DrPoooooole 9d ago
Such an odd movie
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u/ParmesanNonGrata 9d ago
I'm fairly sure that after Twilight those exact words were, what Robert Pattinson needed to say, before taking a role.
Dude did SO much weird movies.
My favorite movie related memory is actually about him. I was in some indie theater because my movie-buff brother in law pulled a "trust me bro. We're going to see that".
We're watching Cosmopolis. With us in the theater a ton of teenagers just going in blind because Rpat.
Disclaimer: I'm typing this from memory. I may be misremembering stuff.
The movie happens almost completely in a Limo. Pattinson plays some investment banker stuck in traffic. And over the course of the movie people get in and out and stuff happens.
Weird movie.
Personal highlight: Male prostitute gets in and... Em.... 'tops' him.
An indie theater of teenage girls had an awakening of some sort.
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u/EXusiai99 9d ago
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u/ShadedPenguin 8d ago
John Kramer had the biggest opportunity to pull some of the funniest shit.
"IT WAS A JIGSAW JOB ALL ALONG"
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u/FarutaSarado 9d ago edited 9d ago
Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter
One of the final scenes has President Lincoln decline the offer from Henry Sturges to make him immortal, before riding off in a carriage to Ford's theater.
Edit: Pedantics in comments want you to know that this was not THE final scene, just close enough to the end of the story for most people to understand the example.
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u/DissociatedAuthor 9d ago
The book and movie have no business being as good as they are.
I'd love to see more movies like this but the few movies I've seen with a similar premise seem to misunderstand that it wasn't Lincoln's name or history that made it so good. They fail to write memorable stories and characters and just ended up seeming very goofy and scy-fy channel goodness.
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u/FixFun1959 9d ago
It was an incredible combination of spinning 2 random wheels and one landed on ‘Abraham Lincoln’ and the other landed on ‘vampires’, and it was a success, and then a good writing team took on the task, along with a good director and good actor.
None of it was ‘great’, it was a movie that was more than the sum of its parts and very much a product of its time. I don’t think the stars could ever be forced to align again to make something comparable.
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u/ShepRat 9d ago edited 9d ago
Agreed. I Haven't read the book, but I love scifi, fantasy and horror. I only like them at either end of the spectrum though, they've got to be great, or terrible, mediocre is unacceptable.
I went in thinking this one would be enjoyable, and it was, but I was mistaken which end of the spectrum.
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u/RomanCobra03 9d ago edited 9d ago

Demon Slayer takes place in early 1900s Japan so the main cast will be safe from the frontlines (B-29s are another story) due to either age or injuries exempting them from service. However their kids are a much different story…
And no…breathing techniques won’t help them because they’re really hard to use when you’re starving to death which is what killed most Japanese soldiers…
Edit: I’m not mentioning WWI because it didn’t affect the average Japanese citizen all that much compared to WWII.
Second Edit: Upon further consideration the main cast would probably be safe from Allied bombing raids considering they all live in areas of Japan colloquially known as “bumfuck nowhere” that the Allies wouldn’t target.
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u/HarleyArchibaldLeon 9d ago
And we know that many of them will die early from the Slayer Mark manifesting too, so it's a miracle that they have descendants in the modern day.
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u/RomanCobra03 9d ago edited 9d ago
While probably true I’m coping that the Demon Slayer mark killing you before 25 is a myth. My reasoning being that the first slayers to unlock the mark died early due to constant use of the mark over the course of months to years whilst the current hashira barely used their mark for like 12-15 hours tops and have zero reason to ever use it again.
Plus medical treatments had advanced in the centuries since the mark’s first appearance so the side effects may very well be treatable now.
Edit: Also the only source of the mark killing you before 25 was Upper Rank 1 trying to convince the Hashira to become demons. For all we know he was talking out of his ass and he even gets called out for it.
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u/Ok-Worry-8931 9d ago
Also iirc from the oneshot epilogue, most of the surviving slayers are permanently disabled. Like Tanjiro can't even wash clothes properly and can't see out of one eye. Just makes it even sadder.
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u/Church_AI 9d ago
I remember him being a bit more functional than that? But he was definitely disabled
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u/UtahBrian 9d ago
Birth rates in Japan were sky high from 1800 to 1960. Disastrously unsustainably high like an even more radical opposite of today.
So they probably had a mess of grandchildren.
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u/_surpriced_pikachu_ 9d ago edited 9d ago
We have no reason to not to believe that just like Ubuyashiki curse was lifted after the death of Muzan the curse of DS mark was also lifted since it's purpose was also fulfilled
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u/NodensInvictus 9d ago
“ While it’s possible he’ll be fine, it’s pretty likely his ass is dead.”
Less than 3% of American soldiers who fought in Vietnam died in the war. It’s much more likely that he survived.
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u/larsVonTrier92 9d ago
Probably deeply traumatized but I guess getting out alive is the true victory.
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u/RogueVector 9d ago
During the Vietnam war, the 'Tooth to Tail Ratio' was something like 12:1. For every single frontline combatant, there were up to 12 people making sure that they were fed, armed, supplied etc. including clerks, supply truck drivers, armorers, cooks, even propagandists and so on.
Even as a draftee, its just as likely that Ramon could have been shoved into a non-combat role and had a blessedly boring Vietnam War experience compared to the ones prominent in media.
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u/Darmok47 9d ago
My high school history teacher talked about being drafted during Vietnam.
He ended up serving his entire time in West Germany.
You could have easily been sent to some NATO base in Europe, or South Korea or Japan.
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u/badform49 9d ago
Yup, I interview veterans as part of my job and a lot of the Vietnam-era veterans I talk to were sent to places besides Vietnam.
And even frontline soldiers in Vietnam had a solid chance of getting out alive (though much, much worse of a chance than frontline fighters). I was interviewing a double-amputee who was a corpsman who served with infantry marines in Vietnam and he talked about how he almost made it over to Iraq for Desert Storm. Obviously, I was confused, but I let him keep going. Turns out, he made it out of Vietnam fine, retired from the military reserve decades later, and lost his legs in a farming accident.
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u/Ginger_Anarchy 9d ago
My uncle spent his time during the war being a helicopter pilot mostly for higher ups traveling around the Deleware and NJ area, as well as transporting supplies between the various training bases. His first time outside the US was his honeymoon after the war had ended.
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u/forwardathletics 9d ago
So funny how it works, both my grandfathers went and both have PTSD from it. So I also would have been of the mind that anyone who escaped had been traumatized
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u/bourgeoisAF 9d ago
People generally overestimate the number of troops who actually go through the Saving Private Ryan type shit. Like yeah, it's really brutal if you do have to go through that, but a lot of them would get through with some light combat and an otherwise uneventful tour of duty.
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u/HandsomePaddyRedux 9d ago
Also as traumatic as PTSD is, it’s clinically diagnosed in a minority of people who experience trauma. You can debate how much higher the actual occurrence rate is, but trauma=/=PTSD in every individual.
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u/Church_AI 9d ago
I'd argue in terms of trauma, WWI makes Vietnam look like a walk in the park, We just didn't have the care, knowledge or statistics, and recency bias at the time for people to understand the trauma people got from that conflict. Vietnam was a scary traumatizing place. WWI was hell.
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u/halloweenjack 9d ago
Not to mention that, like many if not most veterans of modern warfare, most Vietnam veterans never saw combat--only about 10% were in direct combat roles, and even though support personnel were often targeted, less than half saw any kind of combat at all. The requirements for the Vietnam Service Medal make it clear that you could qualify by spending one day in Vietnam or the coastal waters thereof during the time period.
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u/AliMcGraw 9d ago
We have a good family friend who's a Vietnam vet, and proud of it, but he jokes all the time that he "bravely rode into battle on a typewriter" -- he was basically a clerk at rear operating locations typing reports and orders for materiel. He was on the ground in Vietnam for several years, but he sat in a safe place and typed things.
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u/halloweenjack 9d ago
One of my uncles was a vet, and the only guys in his unit who died went swimming in the canals when they were stoned and drowned.
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u/trainboi777 9d ago
Here's a crazy statistic to throw in, more US Soldiers were killed in the year and a half of fighting in World War 1 than Vietnam
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u/vulvasaur69420 9d ago
Also he’s acting like all American soldiers were expected to fight until they personally liberated Hanoi. Unless he reenlisted, this guy would not be in combat until ‘75. Not even mentioning that most U.S. troops were out of the country in ‘75.
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u/Fearless_Roof_9177 9d ago edited 9d ago
Let's not make the mistake everyone did with COVID, though: short term acute mortality rate alone is a piss poor indicator of the human costs of a situation, and the number of people that are killed immediately by a mass casualty event is usually nothing compared to the number of people who are killed over time or severely fucked up for the rest of their lives by it.
Almost twice as many fell to eventual suicide as to combat. Agent Orange, at this point, has killed almost six times as many veterans as the North Vietnamese did. An uncountable multitude of disfigured or psychologically shattered men were all but abandoned by their government, irreparably damaged, often consigned to unraveling lives that led to easily preventable deaths. I could go on.
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u/Nelsonic_terror_2026 9d ago
People tend to forget far more PAVN and NLF died than US troops and they had EVERYTHING worse
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u/PablomentFanquedelic 9d ago
Pocahontas.
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u/Nutzori 9d ago
Yeah. In the same vein while in the movies Ratcliffe is arrested, in real life the natives lured him and his men into a trap promising food. They then flayed him alive with mussel shells.
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u/Randym1982 9d ago
I guess she didn’t hear the colors of the wind.
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u/PupLondon 9d ago
Much like Pocahontas.. a fairy tale take on reality. Although Anya runs off with Dimitri..in real life, Anastasia died with her family.
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u/Dare_Soft 9d ago
think this was before DNA evidence was found, also when learning about the even. Nicholas doomed his family, he could have at least send them over with relatives so inevitably they come back with their australian uncle to retake the country with former white army officers.
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u/66LSGoat 9d ago
There’s not much reason to believe the Soviets would ever stop hunting them. They would have considered it the greatest threat to the cause to have a potential heir to the Russian empire still breathing.
Post Soviet KGB assassinations of people much less important would imply that the hardcore fanatics of the Bolshevik revolution would have stopped at nothing to eradicate the Romanovs.
In your scenario, they might have lived another handful of years in hiding. I still think they were doomed.
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u/Dare_Soft 9d ago
I mean it can be protected by western forces if they knew how much the communists seethed over them by propaganda purposes
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u/assraider42069 9d ago
Thats just not true, while post soviet assassinations did occur, the Romanovs still exist today and Nicholas ii had multiple male heirs apart from his son (his siblings/nephews) who still existed and their male line still exists today.
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u/Arkham700 9d ago edited 9d ago
Full Metal Alchemist: Conquer of Shamballa
The Elric brothers defeat the Thule Society which sabotages The Beer Hall Putsch putting the Nazi Party on the run and leads to Adolf Hitler’s arrest. Thus the day is saved.
Except… 11 years later and after a stint in prison, the bigoted lunatic who failed to coup the government will end up in power. The Elrics and all their nice Romani friends along with filmmaker Fritz Lang probably shouldn’t stick around in Germany too long.

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u/ScarfaceCM7 9d ago
I only ever engaged with brotherhood, so this post is fucking insane to me.
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u/JCkent42 9d ago
Dude, the 2003 Full Metal Alchemist is insanely different from the manga and Brotherhood. Even equivalent exchange is different. There are other worlds or universes. Edward ends up in a different world, etc.
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u/Pescarese90 9d ago
The movie is settled after the events of FMA 2003, a different series from Brotherhood (pretty grim and dark when compared to the manga version)
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u/Arkham700 9d ago edited 9d ago
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u/PirateSanta_1 9d ago
He is a member of the Amestris military lead by Fuhrer Bradley and a veteran of the Ishval civil war which ended in a genocide.
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u/Poet_of_Sordland 9d ago
I mean explicitly supporting Roy to change the system after witnessing the horrors of war.
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u/basiamille 9d ago
This is a fun one: at the end of American Graffiti, we are told Terry "Toad" Fields went missing in Vietnam.

HOWEVER, in the sequel More American Graffiti, we watch his misadventures, trying to go AWOL from his post in the war. He makes it out safely, but nobody back home ever learns he survived the war.
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u/Read2Fap 9d ago
a lot of final girls are probably in deep shit. especially if their deadly encounter had a supernatural element to it and, after-the-fact, can't be proven. you went to a cabin in the woods with your college friends, you were the sole survivor, found covered in blood, and you say a ghost did it? what jury is gonna believe that? especially now that the ghost is banished to the ether or whatever
for the most part its worse if you're a guy survivor. i think the tv show ash vs the evil dead played with it, making him a pariah whose hometown believe he killed his buddies, but they kept him out of jail due to lack of evidence so they could have a show. far more people have been imprisoned with far less evidence.
consider that the groups often have a rich guy with influential parents, who are now demanding justice for their slain kid.
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u/No_Seesaw2700 9d ago
yeah thats what happened with nikki in obsession
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u/Mikemanthousand 9d ago
Especially for her cuz Nikki(‘s body) actually was the one to kill them
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u/PainStorm14 9d ago
And both her body and crime scenes are littered with forensic evidence correctly pointing at her
It's a downer ending for the ages
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u/SuperCruisePanther 9d ago
She probably could plead psychosis given the other witnesses at the party knowing she was acting fucking crazy
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u/charlie_marlow 9d ago
He made it out and spent a while on a space station, but he did struggle with a stim addiction
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u/UncommittedBow 9d ago

The secret ending of Kingdom Come Deliverance 2, if you slaughter all of King Sigismund's camp single-handedly, the game frames this as a good ending, Henry even gets acknowledged as Radzig's heir! Hooray!...
Until you read that vague sentence at the end, "You lived happily until 1416, when you set out with your father for Kuttenberg."
What this vague line is referencing, is the fate of the real life Radzig Kobyla, or "Racek Kobyla of Dvorce". Who, in 1416, alongside 12 of his associates, were set on by an angry mob of miners, fueled by anti-hussite sentiment, they were:
Torn limb from limb, cut into pieces, and thrown into the street, where their remains were then literally stomped into paste.
As this ending states Henry accompanied Radzig...it is implied that Henry of Skalitz shares the same fate as his father.
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u/someofyourbeeswaxx 9d ago
Beauty and the beast is set before the French revolution, and I always wondered how things went for the residents of the big castle.
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u/Bullet_Jesus 9d ago
Considering they lived out in the country, they would be fine during the immediate revolution. However once Louis lost his head they would probably flee the country, only returning in the aftermath of the Napoleonic wars.
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u/Mr31edudtibboh 9d ago
The novel version of Timeline has the main bad guy get knocked out and sent back to Europe in 1348.
The last we see of him is him gently coughing.
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u/MrStendhal 9d ago
The ending of The Nice Guys has a perfect example of this! Set in the 1970's, the film centers around a conspiracy involving the automotive industry. Trying to keep things fairly spoiler free, the main characters foil a plot meant to protect the auto industry in Detroit.
At the very end of the movie, the big-bad gives the following monologue: "What’s good for Detroit is good for America. If I'm not there to take care of it, someone else will be. You can't beat Detroit." basically saying that the big 3 car companies based in Detroit were absolutely necessary to the survival of America, and that their foundations were so solid that nothing could shake the industry or city as a whole.
This movie takes place immediately before the oil crisis, which lead into a huge influx of more fuel efficient Japanese cars being imported. This led to MASSIVE layoffs & factory closures, which ultimately caused Detroit's collapse. It also kind of implies that our heroes ultimately did "beat" Detroit, and inadvertently contributed to Detroit's downfall & widespread suffering.
I've lived in Michigan all my life, so I grew up with the notion of current-day Detroit being a shell of it's former self, having been largely left to rot by the government after being so important for so long. Needless to say, out of all the jokes in this 10/10 movie, this was the one that made me laugh the hardest
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u/CatsPlusTats 9d ago
Beauty and the Beast, it wasn't exactly a good time to be living in a castle in France over the next few years.
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u/CallMeCollin 9d ago
Bad time to break a curse that virtually gives you claws, fangs, and super strength
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u/Cavalish 9d ago
I swear “Belle would have been killed in the revolution” is the 2025 version of 2003’s “Belle had Stockholm Syndrome”
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u/Halfdan7734 9d ago
Red Dead Redemption (the first one)
At the end of the game the protagonist, Jack Marston, ends up alone with no home, no family, no ties to the country and in conflict with the law.
The last chapter of the game is set in 1913 USA, so while it's never officialy stated, it's more than believable that Jack ended up fighting in WW1. He would be 22 years old in 1917, he's a young man with nothing to look forward to, he's used to living rough, and is an expert marksman, so why not put his talents to use ?

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u/CT0292 9d ago
I never liked the idea of Jack going to war.
I always assumed he kills Agent Ross, his wife, and brother, torches the bodies (cause its what I did in game) and then rides off to Mexico.
While down there he writes his book. Which. Can later be seen on a shelf in Grand Theft Auto 5.
Maybe he heads back home. But I dont think he wants to be there. If he gets away with murdering a retired federal agent, waits out the war, and returns to Beecher's he likely has to chase off squatters, and probably sells off much of the land to developers.
I guess I've always felt he wouldn't have wanted to go back home. His parents dead and buried. Uncle too. There's nothing there for him. He gets his revenge and heads off somewhere to lay low. Going home, getting drafted or arrested, and going to war or prison don't seem like anything Jack would want.
Lying under the stars somewhere in the desert, miles from anything, and constantly on edge/on the run seems like what he knows and is used to.
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u/Halfdan7734 9d ago
Idk, I don't see him fighting in WW1 either, but in the mean time the whole thing of the town games is to tell us that the age of outlaws is over and how they all die in the end.
I think the best outcome is for him to have his only canon murder be Rossw then indeed either he flees of to Mexico or he goes to New York to live a peacefully boring life.
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u/fightingbronze 9d ago
This is actually the first I’ve heard of the theory he fights in WW1 but it doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. He’s gotta have some strong anti government sentiments for what they did to his family, so I can’t see why he’d ever willingly join the army. Even if he was drafted, I don’t see him just quietly going.
It’s a sad fate because it’s kind of the exact opposite of everything John, Abigail, and Arthur all wanted for him but I think it’s most likely he lived out a life similar to what you described, Isolated, unable to settle down, on the wrong side of the law.
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u/Fonzies-Ghost 9d ago
Re: Vietnam, 2.7 million US soldiers served in Vietnam, and 58,000 died. Let's be clear, obviously a 2% fatality rate is too high, but unless there's more signifying he died in Vietnam, he probably came home.
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u/ColHogan65 9d ago
It really, really depends on what his job was. Military jobs are not all equally dangerous, and a huge chunk of that 98% survival rate was rear echelon personnel who were usually in very little danger. Less than 10% of the US Army in Vietnam was in the “tooth” part of the tooth-to-tail ratio, so if you were an infantryman, your likelihood of getting killed was closer to 20% than to 2%.
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u/SaskieHopeful 9d ago
To elaborate on this, the secret non-canon ending where Sigismund loses his army has this lovely quote:
King Wenceslas acknowledged you as Sir Radzig's rightful heir, you lived happily until 1416, when you set out with your father for Kuttenberg." Emphasis mine.
In real life, there was a Hussite riot in Kuttenberg in 1416. Radzig Kobyla was murdered by an angry mob in a tavern. So there's two "good endings" where Henry finds himself smack in the middle of a gruesome holy war.
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u/bobshady1987 9d ago
Even better is that it's not describing Sir Radzig as simply being 'killed'.
When he attempted to collect taxes he was 'torn apart' by the angry mob. Considering the time period, that was probably meant literally.
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u/ChaosPatriot76 9d ago
In Anastasia, the happy ending of the film puts the main characters in the safety and glamor of Paris... right before World War II
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u/Nails118 9d ago
That one scene from The Dark Knight where the Joker burns all of the mob's money.
The mob banker, Lau, is show tied up and sitting on top of the pile of money. There are a few cuts to the Joker lecturing the mob, some shots of his goons pouring gasoline on the money, and a shot of him lighting it up. You sort of forget about him because out of frame, out of mind, but Lau is still up on the pile of money when it gets set on fire.
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u/Lost-Citron-1099 9d ago
He was prob too respectful to interrupt the Joker’s monologue with his screams of pain and death.
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u/engineering-weeb 9d ago
Might as well joker fate himself in the Dark Knight Rise, he is definitely offed given the stuff he did and how realistic Nolan batman is
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u/sometimeserin 9d ago
Kind of a mixed bag in Fiddler on the Roof. Tevye and Golde being evicted from Anatevka is terrible, but ultimately things probably work out better for them in America, assuming they make it there and don’t get turned away at Ellis Island. As for Tzeitel and Chava and their husbands, better hope they didn’t end up staying in Poland too long… Idk enough about early Soviet history to know how Hodel and Perchik might’ve fared in Siberia, but it doesn’t sound great.
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u/RealEmperorofMankind 9d ago
Exiles under the Imperial authority were not that bad; Stalin himself had a fair amount of time to hunt.
However, could Perchik survive the turbulence of the early Soviet period, or the Great Purge? Probably not.
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u/Oconitnitsua 9d ago
The Blob (1958) ends with the team freezing the Blob in Antarctica and says it shouldn’t ever be a problem “as long as the Arctic stays cold."
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u/Obvious_Cranberry607 9d ago
Which was it, Antarctica or the Arctic?
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u/mrchooch 9d ago
he goes through his character arc of becoming a braver person he decides to finally go to Vietnam
Jesus christ that's a fucked up message for kids.
Everyones arguing about the death rates of american soldiers, but thats the real shocker
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u/Monster_island_czar 9d ago

Dukie from The Wire. When Dukie is first introduced in The Wire, he's a kid living with drug addict parents. Dukie a sympathetic character who appears to be turning his life around when his teacher starts helping him out. When we last see Dukie, he's asking his teacher for money, which he uses for heroin.
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u/thedinho650 9d ago
I don't think this is that vague, it shows him and the junk collector shooting up in the ending montage.
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u/Hector_P_Catt 9d ago
Dukie is probably the biggest tragic figure of that whole show. He's a smart kid, who grew up surrounded by all the bad shit that drugs have caused, and yet, he starts down that very same path anyways. Let's hope he ended up like Bubbles a couple of decades down the line.
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u/HungryHedgehog8299 9d ago
Michael as well. He essentially becomes the next Omar and 2 episodes prior Omar gets killed in a corner store.
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u/FckingAnxiety 9d ago
Whether or not Mansley's actions would be criminally charged as treason is... an odd subject? He's obviously the peak of McCarthy mindset and I don't think anybody would mistake his actions as for a foreign power (necessary to prove treason as defined in 18 USC §2381). General Rogard and everyone with clearance or who witnessed it would probably conclude what we the audience know: Mansley is a dumbass that treated the giant as a threat.
That said, there certainly wouldn't be any trial requiring the Cold War era US government to admit that a SLBM was launched, by the US Navy, at US soil. Mansley is getting un-person'ed.
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u/SaskieHopeful 9d ago
Radzig Kobyla, the father of Henry of Skalitz (Kingdom Come: Deliverance).
In the end of KCD2, Radzig and Henry have a nice little moment together, and the story ends there. We don't get answers to some of Henry's pressing issues. Will he continue to be a bastard? Will he be legitimized? What will be of Hans? Etc. Etc.
Except, we do know some of what happens, because Radzig Kobyla was a real life historical person. We even get a very subtle hint in a secret alternate ending.
"YOU WIN!"
"You changed history! Sigismund lost his army and a return to Hungary in disgrace. King Wenceslas acknowledged you as Sir Radzig's rightful heir, you lived happily until 1416, when you set out with your father for Kuttenberg."
Yeah... The "until" is where the catch is hiding. It's a very sneaky way for the devs to say "uh-oh" without actually saying it. In real life, there was a Hussite riot in Kuttenberg in 1416. Radzig Kobyla was murdered by an angry mob in a tavern.
For the record, this is not quite a spoiler, since the "secret ending" is very clearly non canon. The real ending, I won't mention, since it would be a sin to spoil this magnificent game. KCD2 is an all-time masterwork. Go play it if you haven't.

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u/Orobero 9d ago
Apocalypto. After everything is done, you see the Spaniards arrive. All those natives are fucked.
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u/greentea1985 9d ago
The outlander book series has this. The book series ends right as the Highland Clearances were about to begin, destroying the world shown in the books.
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u/buttercuping 9d ago
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Lenny Bruce in The Marvelous Mrs Maisel. They tell you (vaguely) about his drug problem and that's it, he stops appearing. Let me tell you, for people outside the USA (and probably youngsters in the USA too) this was very ????.
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u/WastelandOfNorth 9d ago
Huh, I remember the show being quite clear that he dies within the time skip
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u/ConsciousPatroller 9d ago
Jaguar Paw from Apocalypto (as well as the Mayan raiders).
Although Jaguar Paw manages to survive being hunted down, kills Zero Wolf, and rescues his family, the arrival of the conquistadors means that they're all fucked anyway. The West is coming to the Americas, and they'll all very likely die horrible deaths, either from disease, as slaves or in war.

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u/CursedRyona 9d ago
Most American soldiers deployed to Vietnam survived. It just wasn't a pleasant experience for anyone involved, and plenty of the ones who did die didn't go gracefully.
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u/moorealex412 9d ago
Black Sails. The show ends with the established pirate republic in Nassau as a victory for our protagonists, with Woodes Rogers sailing away to England to go debtor’s jail. Unfortunately, a few years later, he got out with his debts absolved and crushed Nassau and, presumably, all our heroes. Also, some of the historical figures in the show just got hanged in separate incidents, because they were pirates.
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u/Maximum_Boros 9d ago
The problem is the movies set in 1968 which means they’re still 7 years out from Saigon. While it’s possible he’ll be fine, it’s pretty likely his ass is dead.
This is basic historical illiteracy.
Not to diminish that even a single digit fatality percentage is horrifying, the fatality rate of US troops in vietnam was under 3% and the overhwelming majority of servicemen got out of it without death or serious permanent physical injury.
How long the war has left is largely irrelevant because the vast majority of draftees were only required to do about a year of service in theater (and about 2 years total in the military). If you wound up serving particularly dangerous missions, got wounded, or just by luck of the draw for your unit, there was even a chance of being dropped early.
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u/Vegetable-Meaning413 9d ago
Most people in the army don't even see combat. He's more likely to be a cook, mechanic, logistics aide, medical assistant, or some other fairly ordinary job. Even if he's infantry, he could spend his service at a desk in an S shop typing all day. The Army is a lot more mundane and boring than most people realize, even during war.
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u/jsonitsac 9d ago
I’m pretty sure that the French Revolution comes for Belle and the former Beast.
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u/TimeRisk2059 9d ago
I doubt it, judging by how they dress and the style of the buildings, it takes place about a century too early for the revolution to affect them.
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u/Then_Bodybuilder3629 9d ago
We had like 53,000 killed in Vietnam. Something like 300,000 wounded, of all types. That's out of around 3,000,000 total service members in SEA during that time frame.
The chances of dying or being wounded obviously varies by specific service, unit, MOS, etc etc. But overall, the odds of weren't too bad.
Fwiw.
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u/Sabretooth1100 9d ago
I still think it’s fucked up that Scary Stories tied the “being brave” arc to willingly going to Vietnam.
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u/ZooterOne 9d ago
This isn't quite what you're looking for, but it always haunted me that in Trading Places, the last time we see Beeks (the assassin played by Paul Gleason), we know he's doomed to slowly starve to death while being repeatedly raped by a gorilla.
Yes, he's a bad guy, but damn, that's a rough way to go.
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u/Constant_Jackfruit21 9d ago
The Sound Of Music - what happened to the nuns AFTER they messed with the Nazis cars probably equated to a camp or being shot on the spot.
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u/Halfdan7734 9d ago
The 2010 french fantasy movie, The Extraordinary Adventures of Adèle Blanc-Sec.
During the Belle Époque in paris, Adèle Blanc-Sec goes through a bunch of shenanigans (involving riding a pterosaurus and reviving Ramesses II's physician then the whole mummified pharaoh's court) to heal her braindead sister with magic.
At the end of the movie she takes a much needed vacation. As she boards the ship and waves goodbye to her friend on the dock the camera pans and reveals the name of the ship: RMS Titanic.
The movie is old and feels like a fever dream but I was eleven when I watched it and I found the ending pretty disturbing. We don't know whether she actually died or not, but the reveal was cool.
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u/AlternateCore 9d ago
The Handmaiden
The story is about a Japanese heiress and a Korean handmaiden who fall in love in Japanese occupied Korea. The story ends with them escaping their troubles by sailing far away to Shanghai, China.
Sadly, the story is set only a couple years before Imperial Japan would invade and occupy Shanghai

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u/GEEZUSE 9d ago
Your boy and mine, Stede Bonnet in Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag. When you last see Stede in the game, he's left Blackbeard's crew, captaining his own vessel out to begin his pirate adventure.
The remake of the game adds a mission later in where you meet the remnants of his crew later. You are given a letter from Mr. Bonnet thanking you for pushing him to become a pirate and that he will face his upcoming execution with dignity.
It's documented that Stede Bonnet's piracy career lasted less then a year after leaving Blackbeard. He was captured, escaped, recaptured and sentenced to be hanged and spent the month leading up to it begging and trying to bargain for clemency even a one point getting enough civil support that caused an uprising that almost burned down Charles Town.
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u/JustAnotherGirl777 9d ago
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Cabaret, where the main characters, except Cliff, choose to stay in Germany during the 1940s because it’s their home. they expect everything to blow ever, but the audience knows that their sexuality will likely get them sent to concentration camps
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u/GuiltyEidolon 9d ago
I strongly disagree that this fits OP's prompt. The entire point is that they're choosing to bury their heads and ignore the very obvious immediate future.
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u/Papergeist 9d ago
OK, everyone already jumped on you for Vietnam, so it's time to jump on you for the Cold War. Mansley would not be tried for high treason - his decision was incredibly stupid, but not invalid. He was, by appearances, duly authorized, and he ordered an attack on something that reasonably appeared to be a threat. There are corroborating witnesses to that effect left and right.
He's going to be busted down and encouraged to resign, or else left pushing papers for the rest of his career. But he's not going to be tortured by the CIA for screwing up. That would be ridiculous, never mind a clear waste of time, as black bagging him would only tell the Soviets he'd been outed. If the CIA wanted to know if he was compromised, they'd just bug the shit out of everything within a mile of him until they were satisfied that, no, he was simply organically stupid.
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u/Space_Socialist 9d ago
The problem as far as I can remember he doesn't have permission to launch the missle. He steals the radio from the general and gives the order. So not only does he launch a nuke at US soil but also does so via insubordination. Mansley is going to have a really hard time justifying his decision in a courtroom.
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u/Confident_Shape_7981 9d ago
Also, all of you are glossing over the fact that he hijacks a military vehicle and tries to flee, meaning at best he's getting that lumped on, at worst he's being seen as also desertion of duty
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u/DerpyJeeves 9d ago
No. He launched a nuke towards American soil. He's done, its not just treason its attempted murder. He wasn't authorized at all, the General was the one ordering the launch. Even if he isn't murdered its definitely prison time.
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u/DragonWisper56 9d ago
authorized, and he ordered an attack on something that reasonably appeared to be a threat. There are corroborating witnesses to that effect left and right.
yeah but he straight up doesn't have the authority to call a nuke. if it wasn't stoped then a nuke would have been fired on a american town.
I can't imagine him going free from a fuck up that bad
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u/Cheezeball25 9d ago
I don't think it's ever stated that Mansley was in any way actually part of the military, he's a civilian agent with the government and definitely didn't have authority to be commanding attacks on anything. He definitely wasn't supposed to even have the radio he grabbed from the generals hands.
And given he's a civilian agent who acted like that, he would be a convincing scapegoat to keep the military looking good regardless of the breakdown in the chain of command.
Although given the era that this movie takes place, I'm not sure how fleshed out the nuclear launch system really was yet at this point in the cold war
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u/jbeldham 9d ago
In Wonder Woman, Diana slays Ares, god of war, ending World War I and bringing peace to the world.
Diana later did nothing to stop all the stuff that happened in World War 2.
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u/GuiltyEidolon 9d ago
She didn't even really end WWI. Those movies whiffed so hard on that front.
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u/BeeBop_Beluga 9d ago
Anne Bonney and Jack Rackham (Calico Jack). Survive through the troubles in Black Sails, and essentially sail away into a sunset, but in real life, both were arrested for piracy. Jack gets hanged, but Anne's sentence is commuted to imprisonment, on account of her being pregnant.
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u/Moose_Cake 9d ago
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Hercules ends with the main character Hercules rescuing Meg from the Underworld and decides to stay on Earth with her as a mortal.
While the movie goes extremely loose on the mythology including Hara being his biological mom in this variation, in real mythology Hercules kills his family including Meg in a fit of madness leading to him having to do the Twelve Labors to atone for his deed.
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u/Soulful-Sorrow 9d ago
Tzekal Kan was defeated at the end of The Road to El Dorado and dragged off by Cortés and his men to a vague fate, but knowing how Cortés treated the Native Americans in real life, you can imagine his fate was not pleasant.