r/TopCharacterTropes • • 4d ago

miscellaneous (Meta Trope) "Wait, you're supposed to be a bad representation!" "Yeah but you accidentally made me cool as fuck"

Injue Joe (Looney Tunes)- in this episode how America came to be, 90% of the country belonged to this mf. He broke trees with his chest, scared off bears with his roar, sended bear traps running and crying with his bite, passed rivers like a hippo, shot tree sized arrows casually and eated bullet to form canon balls that he shooted out of his mouth.

Snowflame (DC comics): Snowflame is a villain that gains more power the more he takes cocaine. He can control white flames, have super strenght, super resistance, ability to makes others feel drugged aswell and endless stamina. He should be a PTA about drugs being bad, but the writers forgot the most important things when making a anti-drug characters, THEY FORGOT TO GIVE HIM CONSEQUENCES FOR USING HIS POWER. Mf is able to duke it out with a entire hero team at the price of nothing.

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u/Man0Steel123 4d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/hPL6rgs9bma8ZDRchm

So here is a very fun but incredibly odd example.

A couple of years ago pro wrestler Chad gable was in a feud with various luchadores in the WWE. He hated them so much that he went down to Mexico to learn how to defeat luchadores. Couple of months later we get the debut of El Grande Americano, a masked luchadore that interfered in the other luchadore matches to cost them victories.

Now just from looking at him you could tell it was Chad gable but the show tried to portray them as to totally different people. Overall the gimmick was supposed to be for comedy but ran into a bit of trouble at first because he was billed from….The Gulf of America.

Eventually the Gable version of El grande Americano got injured. But don’t you worry because the story of el grande Americano does not end.

Enter Ludwig Kaiser who now appeared on the show as a leaner taller version of El Grande Americano to fulfill the same role. Yes a German man was acting like an American acting like a luchadore.

That said something happened. See under Gable the gimmick was supposed to be a comedy gimmick we boo at, for a time this was Kaisers role too…but then he took it seriously.

Turns out Kaiser really enjoys Mexican culture. So much that he can speak the language very fluently and shows great respect to it. Hell he even defended his Latina girlfriend when some asshole threatened to call ICE on her.

Under the WWE owned AAA promotion, Mexican audiences respected Kaiser dedication to the role and their culture basically made him a fan favorite. So much that when gable returned from injury they had a pro longed feud that ended in a mask vs mask match that is still in contention for match of the year. He also is their current champion. Ludwig Kaiser can now never not be El Grande Americano

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u/Vuirneen 4d ago

We know now, that the original El Grande Americano was Chad Gable, but we didn't then.  They look completely different.  OG Grande wears a mask.

When he lost the mask verses mask match, Gable followed the tradition of Mexican wrestling.  He took off the mask, revealed his real name and history of being a wrestler.  His family was in the ring and the crowd chanted his name the moment the mask came off.

He stopped being a rudo (heel) and became a technico (face) because he finally respected lucha culture.

So even the original EGA became beloved, in his unmasked form.

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u/djsynrgy 4d ago

*Kaiser has not been confirmed as the wrestler working in the EGA mask.

I've seen rumors it might be Omos.

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u/MAGCHAVIRA 4d ago

What are you talking about? Ludwig is not the new El Grande Americano. Here is a Photo of him with el Grande

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u/bath-lady 4d ago

this rules. and the dan hausen curse is making me laugh. I only loosely follow wrestling and this is delighting me

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u/existentialist-hello 4d ago

That sounds fucking awesome. I'm gonna look up a video right now.

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u/RedGuyNoPants 4d ago

I avoided following this after hearing about the initial version so I’m very intrigued in the direction it ended up going. I heard about the mask vs mask match but discounted it based on what i knew.

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u/Reasonable-Bake-5419 3d ago

the initial version was created by gable to be a villain who makes fun of lucha culture and them gets his ass beat by luchadores why would you avoid this?

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u/RedGuyNoPants 3d ago

I heard about a wrestler from wwe, which has recently gotten even more overtly maga, had a white wrestler dressed up as a luchador and hailed from the gulf of america

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u/Reasonable-Bake-5419 3d ago

a heel who is supposed to be the bad guy in any moment, doing things to make the audience understand that they should boo him

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u/RedGuyNoPants 3d ago

Thanks, i understand how wrestling works

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u/Man0Steel123 3d ago

I forgot

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u/Vuirneen 4d ago

Wwe have the aaa shows on their YouTube channel for free.  Aaa also do, but commentary on the wwe channel is in English.

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u/sqwizzles 4d ago

Marcel Barthel portrays El Grande Americano, Ludwig Kaiser is dead

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u/LinkG07 3d ago

All jokes and kayfabe aside, this turned Ludwig into an absolute megastar and I'm supremely happy for him. It not only completely turned his career around when it was uncertain, but he turned what could've been a problematic gimmick that could've grew very thin, into something/someone to be celebrated despite his original role. Him winning the AAA title was very emotional with the crowd singing to him. They ADORE him.