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Can I never work here or how does this work? I did a appeal and it’s been 3 months and still haven’t heard anything

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u/User_3971 Maintenance 1d ago

If you can't pass the background check you can't work here. That will now depend on your appeal and whether it is accepted. If it is accepted - now you have to wait for a new position to open up. They won't put that MHA job on hold, it already went to someone else.

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u/Zealousideal-Tap5368 1d ago

So basically I need to hang it up?

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u/User_3971 Maintenance 1d ago

Depends on the reason why you failed the background check. We can't say without knowing what's in your background and we don't need to know here.

All USPS jobs have the same background check requirement so either figure out what's wrong, get it fixed (if possible) or wait for it to expire, and then apply after that. If it's not fixable, go work somewhere that doesn't have a federal background check requirement.

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u/Zealousideal-Tap5368 1d ago

2 duis and I’m on probation for 1 one them

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u/Remarkable-Answer426 1d ago

Broseph😭😭😭

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u/fancyseacreature 1d ago

Hey, he could totally become a shitty NALC president, c'mon

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u/Originaltenshi City Carrier 1d ago

Sonion

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u/pachimariparty 1d ago

Man..There are carriers WITH DUIs or their licenses taken away entirely lol

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u/User_3971 Maintenance 1d ago

So how that works is, you apply having a clean record, no problems. You start drinking (to celebrate) once you pass probation/make regular etc etc. You keep drinking to put up with the job. Since there's only one background check, you're good.

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u/pachimariparty 1d ago

So develop the drinking problem midway due to the job? Got it

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u/Nice-Discussion-8722 1d ago

Honestly yes… I didn’t realize until a bit later. This place can be very bad for you.

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u/pachimariparty 1d ago

This place is shit lol it kills mental health

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u/HammondCabbage 8h ago

There was such a thing as "going postal". I.E. Patrick Sherrill

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u/Zealousideal-Tap5368 1d ago

lol, why is nobody serious on here

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u/User_3971 Maintenance 1d ago

That's a serious answer to the question, and exactly how it tends to happen.

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u/Krazy_Kat_Lady_2025 1d ago

They aren't kidding.

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u/Gweedo1967 1d ago

Because it doesn’t matter what anyone here says. You received the letter that clearly explains it. You’ve appealed with no success. You won’t be working for the USPS!

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u/Dogmad13 1d ago

Those carriers are already employees and under the right to treatment regulations set forth in the contract.

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u/Zealousideal-Tap5368 1d ago

I’ve heard but their DUI’s where 5plus years ago whereas mines is recent

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u/mike353511 1d ago

We have a carrier who got a dui on the clock and he had open bottles in his work vehicle too. Didn't get fired. In fact they were forced to create a new route for him.

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u/Originaltenshi City Carrier 1d ago

Then they'll fire CCAs for being too slow cause they took the safety rules seriously

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u/DexterousSpider City Carrier 11h ago edited 10h ago

I think you misunderstood when you read 5 years ago. They were already employees, 5 years ago. They didn't just recently hire in.

Either way? Go apply for an apprenticeship at a Masonry/bricklayer or electricians hall. Big money once you get through to journeyman. Makes postal pay look like a joke, but it's work.

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u/pachimariparty 1d ago

Yeah, this person's was ongoing(not now, but years ago at the time). Didn't bother to tell management. Never seen someone sweat so hard everyday

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u/Quadratic1996 Maintenance 1d ago

Just apply directly for supervisor lol. We have a sup with 5 dui's

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u/SilentPhilosophy3307 1d ago

We had a guy get two DUI's while he was an MHA, now he's an SDO and about to get promoted to MDO.

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u/Zealousideal-Tap5368 1d ago

That’s a damn shame, and mfs judging me for having 2. Crazy world

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u/petit_cochon 1d ago

You didn't learn a goddamn thing, did you? Dummy.

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u/Dogmad13 1d ago

It’s due to you currently being on probation

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u/Zealousideal-Tap5368 1d ago

That’s what i figured, i just wanted a second opinion

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u/Dogmad13 1d ago

Were they both misdemeanors and did you seek treatment?

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u/Zealousideal-Tap5368 1d ago

Yes, im in TX so yes both were misdemeanors and no, no treatment. I completled all my classes, did my jail time and paid my fees. Just waiting on time at this point.

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u/Dogmad13 1d ago

It’s up to you but wouldn’t hurt to enter a treatment program at some point or at least meetings while on probation and have your probation officer record your progress - once probation is completed wait a year and reapply. The struggle will be real
If you’re really willing to commit but as a 30 year retiree the job is hard and there will be days that are just hell and you will need a different outlet to deal with it because they will work you practically to the max limit - not preaching just giving insight. Wish you the best - another option for the time being see if you can enroll in a junior college that offers skilled labor job training such as welding etc. if you’re wanting better pay with all the new construction jobs coming up - especially in Texas with data centers - might be a better option for the time being

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u/Zealousideal-Tap5368 1d ago

Im trying to get into cyber security, I used to have a cdl class a but thanks to drinking habits i lost that and prolly will never drive a truck again for the foreseeable future. I just want a steady job that pays well and i heard usps was it. Im not afraid of the work because i was a delivery driver and nothing was harder than that.

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u/Zealousideal-Tap5368 1d ago

I’ve heard about welding, that’s a long shot also., but idk honestly. If someone here could point me towards a job that doesn’t require a license of some sort and pays well im all ears.

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u/Negative-Dig-6508 21h ago

i'm on 2 years probation for a similar reason and still got the job.

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u/leeloocal 1d ago

Dude….

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u/houseblendicedbeer 1d ago

I got the same message 4 days ago. I was thinking it’s probably because of my fingerprint. The lady and I had a hardtime getting an “okay” fingerprint from the system. At the end, we couldn’t register my thumb fingerprint so we just let it go. So 8/10 were able to capture my fingerprint. But still, i thought that would be the reason why i got the email

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u/MasterRice5659 1d ago

Sorry about how picky they are.. both UPS and FedEx give people second chances. If they won't consider you for a driver they do hire loaders. My son used to be a loader at FedEx. I'm not sure about DUI's and probation but I don't think that will effect you applying to be a loader. I don't know how long it stays on your record. I wish you luck and please be careful to not drink and drive. I'd hate for something bad to happen to you or someone else. Best of luck to you!!

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u/HAnimeConnoisseur1 18h ago

To the kitchen with you! You already have the line cook starter package 07

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u/These_Equipment_3614 16h ago

Brotha, you need to get in order before you apply

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u/Zealousideal-Tap5368 1d ago

Do you know how long it takes for them to accept or deny my appeal?

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u/User_3971 Maintenance 1d ago

No clue. Never had to appeal. Not in HR.

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u/Plane_Concern8985 1d ago

I wouldn't hold your breath for an appeal. USPS uses 3rd party companies for their background checks. All USPS sees is either a yes or no in regards to you.

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u/Zealousideal-Tap5368 1d ago

Appreciate that honest answer.

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u/Rare-Statistician-58 1d ago

You had an open criminal case just 6 months ago.
You have to wait 5 years from your open case to get hired at USPS.
You can apply in 2031-2032

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u/Zealousideal-Tap5368 1d ago

Lawd Jesus, well I can forget that

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u/Jealous-Grab-8648 1d ago

I work for usps too and they go back 7yrs…. Theft, forgery, assault…. Stuff like that is what gets you denied

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u/Zealousideal-Tap5368 1d ago

That’s what I heard but I didn’t think a dui for a non drving position would get me denied tbh

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u/Sad_Condition7047 1d ago

It's a character issue

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u/West-Might3475 Rural Carrier 1d ago

Yeah but you can apply to be a Clerk and then transfer to a CCA or RCA position without reapplying or a background check.

So I imagine they do a one size fits all, just in case. Probably easier on the logistics, too.

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u/kingu42 Big Daddy Mail 1d ago

The above is from a job listing from over a year ago, did you wait 9 months to make an appeal?

Most common reasons for what is a very uncommon rejection would be failure to have resided in the United States at any point during the past 5 years (except for exempted reasons), not a US citizen and without a permanent resident green card, drug trafficking charges, theft (including retail fraud or embezzlement), or driving under the influence where someone was injured, and apparently being on the No Fly List by TSA/Homeland. Deferred or expunged charges that were not done by a federal court are still fully visible to USPIS.

Things that can incorrectly trigger a rejection like that can include (especially in today's economy) working for a foreign company (where you resided in the United States) and they were unable to contact the person you put down to confirm your having lived at a particular address while under that employment.

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u/kingu42 Big Daddy Mail 1d ago

Yes, you can apply when you have 5 years in the US

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u/Zealousideal-Tap5368 1d ago

No this is recent, 9-25-27. They just sent me the offer yesterday. And I have 2 DUI’s on my record and I’m on probation for 1 of them. I can send the denial letter if yall want., if it makes it easier to yall to understand in a way

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u/National-Seaweed-468 1d ago

Idk what communist country you’re from but around here it’s still 2026.

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u/Zealousideal-Tap5368 1d ago

Sorry bro you’re right, mistype it is 2026. Still recent though

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u/Delicious-Leg-5441 Rural Carrier 1d ago

If you applied for a job that requires driving your disqualified. Two DUI'S is a pattern. Any job that requires driving will probably not hire you.

Time to lay off the bottle my man. You don't want to end up in jail by continuing to drink and drive. Or worse be behind the wheel after drinking and getting into an accident and killing someone. How would you live the rest of your life I'd that happened? What if it was a kid?

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u/Zealousideal-Tap5368 1d ago

No, i really dont drink anymore tbh. And it was for a mail handler no driving invloved. I dont apply for jobs with driving because of my situation.

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u/kingu42 Big Daddy Mail 1d ago

Any DUI conviction within 5 years is an automatic denial for any driving position at USPS. Mail handler should not be a position requiring driving qualifications. Were all of the convictions for driving under the influence of alcohol? Or was it under the influence of a different drug?

If it was for being under the influence of an intoxicant which wasn't alcohol, you should include a copy of your evaluation and any mandatory treatments that evaluation recommended, and successful completion of those recommendations. Active probation usually wouldn't be a disqualifier, however USPS can take it into account in a facility where mail handlers would normally use PIT. If you had a third conviction (deferred adjudication where you successfully completed all the requirements and the judge dismissed the case), you would be barred from any future consideration for a job with driving requirements.

In Texas, in particular, almost every 2nd DUI conviction is actually the third.

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u/Zealousideal-Tap5368 1d ago

My first one was on deferred and i think that’s they rejected me. They put that on the rejection letter but I didn’t know what it meant., thanks for your answer. That was helpful. So I basically can’t work here

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u/5everc 1d ago

Yeah… it’s not gonna happen unfortunately. You’ll need to find a different career

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u/Zealousideal-Tap5368 1d ago

Yeah I see, thanks for advice

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u/Advanced_Link8210 1d ago

become a tradesmen. plumber or contractor. No one is going to hire a drunk but the trades good sir. best of luck. quit drinking and turn your life around good sir

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u/houseblendicedbeer 1d ago

Hi! I wonder who you contacted for the appeal? I got the same result

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u/Zealousideal-Tap5368 1d ago

They sent me a email, I dropped the picture in the comments somewhere. Itll tell you who to email and do it within 7 days of the day you received the email. Good luck to you

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u/houseblendicedbeer 1d ago

Cant find the picture u drop man. Do u mind typing it here. Sorry to cause you trouble man goodluck to us

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u/Zealousideal-Tap5368 1d ago

I sent you a DM

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u/stonefishguy 1d ago

Depending on what it was how long ago and current situation you might be able to get it expunged off your record

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u/stonefishguy 1d ago

No need for details on your end on what it was just some info from me

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u/Zealousideal-Tap5368 1d ago

I feel you brother, thank you

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u/Zealousideal-Tap5368 1d ago

This is the reason why if anybody was wondering

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u/petit_cochon 1d ago

You were found guilty of one in April of 2026 and got another one within 6 months.

Just remember that a DUI is a cakewalk next to getting tried for vehicular manslaughter or homicide. Although, there probably won't be a trial, just a plea deal and then prison.

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u/Zealousideal-Tap5368 1d ago

Noooooooo., not exactly. I got my first in 10/2024 and my second 11/2025. I was almost off probation when i got my second one so they extended my probation time on the first one.

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u/xTrebliG CCA 1d ago

youre cooked bro

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u/Advanced_Link8210 1d ago

This is willfull negligence to follow us laws and proves you are not trustworthy. anything you get caught doing multiple times is reason for an expulsion.

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u/Zealousideal-Tap5368 1d ago

I respect that.

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u/CallMeShinryu 1d ago

I'm going to be honest, you should not work anywhere near somewhere like the post office where there's too many moving parts. You'd be a liability with this under your record, and you also need to stop drinking and driving. You're gonna get yourself or someone else killed.

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u/Zealousideal-Tap5368 1d ago

I don’t do it anymore., lost too much. But ppl missing the point that I had a whole CDL., so saying ishouldnt be near the PO is kinda offensive to me. Sorry

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u/goodgollymisssomaIi 1d ago

You should have never gotten the CDL either

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u/Zealousideal-Tap5368 20h ago

I’ve been having my CDL for bout 10 years now, if I knew I was gon get a dui trust me I woulda never got it back then.

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u/Plane_Concern8985 1d ago

That's gonna show up for at least 3 to 5 years. You can try a non driving position but you won't get a driving position with USPS anytime soon.

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u/Zealousideal-Tap5368 1d ago

This was a non driving position, that’s why im so confused. It was for a mail handler aka MHA

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u/p2_putter 1d ago

Are you sure you have a pulse? Because we hire anyone that can prove they’re alive

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u/Zealousideal-Tap5368 1d ago

That’s what I’ve heard, that’s why im not understanding why I ain’t get hired. Im not a theif or anything.

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u/Totus_Tuus78 PSE 1d ago

You have two DUI’s. You put other people’s lives at risk because of your stupidity and selfishness

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u/curtisspins 22h ago

You should have waited till you got the job to get a DUI. They make exceptions for it once you're hired.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Elk1576 Rural Carrier 21h ago

This is a Federal position. They drug test and look into your criminal history. You need to wait until you get hired and join the union to rack up your DUI’s and misdemeanors.

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u/Ok-Register-4748 18h ago

Scroll up to his removed comment, OP has 2 DUIs and is on probation with 1. Dude is cooked.

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u/Zealousideal-Tap5368 18h ago

omg, chill. Im tryna do better and everyone is roasting me., im still human at the end of the day

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u/OrganizationOk2480 16h ago

There are mail handlers in Houston north plant w ankle monitors out for unaliving. Wow

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u/OrganizationOk2480 15h ago

Try clerk or pse no driving required.

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u/Zealousideal-Tap5368 14h ago

I did., i got the same response :(

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u/younglitty 1d ago

Welcome to America where you can’t handle mail with a dui misdemeanor, but you can be the sitting president of the country and plead guilty to multiple felony counts 😒

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u/Zealousideal-Tap5368 1d ago

I must add on my duis, I didn’t hit nobody nor have an accident. I was sleep in my car on side the road for my 1st one and police stopped me for my 2nd.

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u/the_chosen_o1ne 1d ago

This job is trash get something better

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u/Electronic_Fold_7449 1d ago

why you say it’s trash? there is a reason you are still employed by usps.

if u tell the user to find something better, then why don’t you find something better and give up your spot for someone that really wants to work for usps?

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u/Comenayeahaw 1d ago

the trainer at academy told me to never listen to any carrier that complains every day at the post office because look who still shows up daily after complaining about it lol.

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u/the_walrus123 1d ago

We show up because it’s the only thing that pays “ok” and also no one else is hiring.

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u/Comenayeahaw 1d ago

i’m right there with you

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u/the_walrus123 1d ago

I don’t think it’s ever been so hard to find a job than these days

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u/Advanced_Link8210 1d ago

im only here for the insurance and benefits to be honest.