r/WayOfTheBern • u/RandomCollection Resident Canadian • 3h ago
Kiev, Iran, Midterms: Neocon Empire Is Crashing w/ Garland Nixon | The Duran
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ut8Q2GZRNwFrom DeepSeek
Overall Thesis
00:00–02:01
This Duran interview with Garland Nixon frames the current moment as the neocon project crashing into the wall after running fast since the mid-1990s. Nixon agrees with the host that the crisis must be seen through two lenses: external inability to accept the limits of Western power, and internal collapse of the gap between elites and ordinary people. He argues that the same authoritarian mindset that treats the world as a chessboard is now unraveling both abroad and at home.
Nixon says the West tried to go head-on against China economically and quickly discovered it could not smash through global supply chains and material interdependence. It still talks about destroying China, India, or whoever it wants, and still imposes sanctions, but it cannot accept its economic limitations. The military limitations are even more obvious, yet Western officials keep promising to hit Iran hard again and again, while Iran absorbs the attacks and returns to its long-term strategy.
External Limits Of Western Power
02:01–05:18
Nixon argues that the West cannot accept that it cannot “force” Russians to a negotiating table, because force and diplomacy are contradictory by nature. He also points to repeated threats against Iran that do not produce a decisive result, showing that the old coercive playbook is failing. The inability to accept limits is not just a policy problem; it is a psychological refusal to accept that the game is no longer theirs to play.
Internally, Nixon sees a widening chasm between the masses and the political and elite classes. People expect representation, but they are waking up to the fact that their governments do not represent them and are actively harming them. He says this is why the authoritarian nature of the ruling class is unraveling the whole situation worldwide, because the public is beginning to see the gap between democratic rhetoric and actual rule.
Russian Air Campaign Shocks The West
05:18–10:18
The host relays that the Russian air campaign in Ukraine has left the West “completely spooked,” because it is the kind of campaign the West thought only it could conduct. Eric Schmidt’s interview with The Economist is cited as an example: the Russians were supposed to be slow and backward, but now the other side is at least as good as the West. This is described as a shock because it breaks the assumption of permanent Western technical and military superiority.
Nixon says something even worse is that Russia and Iran can conduct and sustain long-term strike campaigns, while the collective West lacks the weapons, variety, and industrial base to do the same. The adversaries also adapt on the fly, evaluating new Western weapons within months and producing counter-options. He compares the West to a 38-year-old boxer who cannot accept that a 21-year-old is stronger and quicker, while still wanting to dominate in a hegemonic way.
Iran, Yemen, And The Nuclear Danger
10:18–13:36
The wars are not over, and Nixon expects another attack on Iran over the horizon. Trump’s statement that he will not attack before the midterms is read as an admission that an attack is being contemplated after the midterms. The Houthis in Yemen are fighting the Saudis and their allies, the Strait of Hormuz remains a major problem, and oil markets are being affected as Iran tightens pressure again.
The host raises the possibility that if Iran cannot be defeated conventionally, nuclear means might be considered, and cites Trump’s UN speech language about “annihilating Iran.” Nixon warns that a nuclear strike would not produce a clean victory. It would create regional fallout, Iran could still retaliate from mountain fortresses, and a “dead hand” response could unleash missiles on Tel Aviv, Haifa, and desalination plants, producing a catastrophe of unimaginable consequences rather than a victory.
Europe’s War Talk And Elite Desperation
13:36–18:02
The host says open talk of war with Russia in Europe is becoming extremely unnerving, with some people desperate to escalate because the war has not been won. Russian warnings about capabilities are dismissed as bluff, including warnings about Kaliningrad, while preparations continue. This raises the question of whether there is any point before crisis when these people will stop.
Nixon links this desperation to internal uprising and economic trouble. He mentions France looking like a zombie apocalypse movie, Macron watching missile tests, and Lithuania offering to host weapons on Russia’s border, which he calls a recipe for the end of Lithuania. He argues there is an attempt to unite people against an external enemy because the elite is horrified by economic decline and wants access to Russian resources, while ordinary people are losing jobs and worried about prices.
Elites Talk War While People Talk Bills
18:02–23:47
The host describes a dysfunction between Western elites and the vast majority of the population that he has never seen before. Elites talk about war, geopolitics, Russia, Iran, rearmament, and hybrid wars, while people talk about impossible bills, failing schools, closing factories, rising taxes, and rising prices. When people organize around these issues, they are accused of being manipulated or working for the other side, as if protest is almost treasonous.
Nixon calls this an epistemological crisis rooted in desperation. The ruling class is not stupid; it is desperate, so when someone states the obvious, it attacks rather than discusses. He says the masses are saying they do not have bread, and the political class has no answer, so it demonizes whoever says it and tries to shut the discussion down. The host adds that in Germany, recent regional election results showed opposition parties winning partly because they were seen as opposed to the drift toward war.
Young People And The Cannon Fodder Problem
22:09–23:47
Nixon says unhappiness with the status quo is widespread across the West, especially among people under 30. Young people are looking for other options and are very unhappy, and war is seen as a threat because they will be the cannon fodder. Up to now the war talk has been theoretical, but once governments start demanding uniforms and service, physical pushback will begin.
He points to young Germans saying they simply will not go, and says this is where the rubber meets the road. The West is getting closer to dangerous standoffs where governments tell people or other countries they must do something or cannot do something. In Ukraine, Kiev is falling into disrepair to the point where it may not be a city where people can live or where a government can be run.
Western Officials Rush To Kiev Empty-Handed
23:47–27:26
The host notes attacks on Kiev, bridges, the electricity system, and other targets, while two sets of Western officials rushed to Kiev: the German chancellor and a group of NATO generals. They came with nothing, no real solution for defending Kiev and no diplomatic initiative to resolve the crisis differently. Zelensky afterward said Europe needs to do more, and the host says he almost sympathizes because they tell him they are behind him while his capital is being hammered.
Nixon says they all came running to Kiev in desperation, and “running is not a plan.” He compares it to bureaucratic meetings where nobody has a clue but cannot admit it, so they produce an empty manual with a table of contents. He says what is being heard now is the sound of inevitability, the limits of Western power expressing themselves in the air war over Kiev. When Kiev falls, people in Ukraine will see the thing is over, and the same pattern applies in the Middle East.
Middle East Limits And Saudi Anxiety
27:26–30:00
In the Middle East, the host says MBS calls Trump to bomb the Houthis, but Trump says no because bombing will not succeed and can make things worse. MBS then calls Erdogan and the Pakistanis, but the response is aircraft to Saudi Arabia and no ground troops, because nobody wants to actually fight the Houthis. Erdogan reportedly says Turkey will not even bomb Yemen, which the host reads as an admission that Western power has hit its limits.
Nixon adds that Turkey and Pakistan have domestic concerns: many Shia in Pakistan and ordinary people in Turkey do not side with the US and its ostensible allies. Leaders fear instability if they are perceived as allying with the US and Israel. He also suspects that if troops are sent to Saudi Arabia, it may not be to confront Yemen but to quell insurgent forces or prevent other factions inside Saudi Arabia from getting ideas about overthrowing the Saudi government.
America Iran Deal And The End Of Empire Narrative
30:00–35:59
The host believes the US-Iran deal signed in April was actually a very good deal for the United States. It would open the Strait of Hormuz, get the US out of the Persian Gulf, reduce a drain on resources, and open the way for stabilization and possibly a rapprochement between Iran and Persian Gulf Arab states. Yet it was massively opposed as capitulation, and nobody is now considering a way back to that kind of solution.
Nixon agrees it was a good deal for a side that had effectively lost the war. But the problem is that taking the deal exposes that the United States is no longer the hegemon it believes itself to be. The language of forcing people to the negotiating table implies domination and a unipolar moment, and accepting a deal recognizes that Iran has a say and enough power to get some of what it wants. That kills the narrative of empire, because empire at this stage is largely a narrative, and the only people still believing it are the neocons making the world dangerous.
Diplomacy As Capitulation And “Green Eggs And Ham”
33:28–35:59
The host says Western diplomacy has become a process of getting the other side to agree to its own capitulation, which is not diplomacy in any meaningful sense. Nixon calls it “Green Eggs and Ham” diplomacy: the same offer is made over and over, the other side says no, and the West comes back next week with the same offer. Ceasefires are offered to Russia and Iran as if the offer itself should be accepted because the West wants it.
He says the West negotiates with itself, decides what it must offer the Russians, and then offers it again even after it has been rejected. This reflects the absence of real diplomats and the redefinition of diplomacy as skillful manipulation and domination. Even if the West had good diplomats, nobody would trust the people behind them, because once trust is lost, signed assurances are not believed.
Democracy Rhetoric And The Moral High Ground
35:59–41:07
The host asks about the claim that the West is protecting a liberal democratic system threatened from all sides, which supposedly makes diplomacy with adversaries impossible. Nixon says the people inside the system do not agree that it is a shiny jewel worth protecting. They see a rotten system that is not working for them, so the question becomes what exactly is being protected, and the answer looks more like the elite’s right to rule.
Nixon also says the moral argument has collapsed. The West claims moral superiority over authoritarian governments, but people say they cannot say what they want, cannot criticize the government, cannot travel freely, or have their phones taken. The Epstein files add to the sense that the political class lacks moral high ground, and ordinary people feel more moral and upright than the “Epstein class.” The host adds that the European Commission headquarters in Brussels has a giant banner saying “democracy what we protect,” while anti-riot barriers are being built around the same building.
Economic Fakery And The Coming Internal Smashup
41:07–45:37
The host cites Germany’s claim of 1.3% economic growth, saying the government revised previous years’ GDP upward and reassigned the uplift to this year to create the appearance of growth. He says the Financial Times article acknowledges this sleight of hand. Meanwhile people face harder conditions, protests in France, elections in Germany and Spain, a misreported by-election in London, and US midterms that look bad for Republicans.
Nixon says the question is where the smashup will come: externally with Russia, in the Middle East, or internally through uprising. He has long argued it will be internal first. A growing fuel crisis going into winter could create internal instability that makes it impossible for leaders to ignore discontent or dismiss it as Russian, Iranian, or North Korean disinformation. Once people can no longer survive, the elite will have to address it and will not have the bandwidth for an external smashup.
American Anger, Lost Trust, And Europe’s Fear
45:37–52:34
The host describes visiting Chicago and finding nobody happy with the Democratic Party or the general situation, and a strong radicalization among young students. He says the hardening of opinion over one year surprised him. Nixon says there is anger, fury, and distrust in the United States, and while Republicans may get smashed, the Democrats are so messed up they could screw that up too.
Nixon says people are politically disoriented, angry, frustrated, and do not see a way out through the traditional parties. Many conclude voting does not matter and that there is no area within the system that can be used to fix the system. Trump’s 180-degree turn on his promises damaged trust, and now people expect Democrats to do the same, producing a complete loss of trust in traditional institutions, media, and academia.
The host notes that the British elite is spooked by the US decision to remove bombers from Britain, because without the United States they are militarily nothing. Nixon says the US may pull some assets out of Europe but will not give up trying to control European military and foreign policy. US politicians are spooked by domestic unmanageability, fear of a Democratic supermajority, and fear of losing the ability to predict what happens next, because unpredictability is what horrifies the ruling class most.
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u/RandomCollection Resident Canadian 3h ago
I think the big insight here is that the Western elite are really unable to come to terms with the fact that they have lost. They keep thinking that the West is better than Russia and yet, the Russians innovate faster than they do.
Were it not for the death toll, it would be comical because the Western elites (and the trolls here) are all caught up in their sense of superiority.