r/Wellthatsucks • u/Party_Farmer_5354 • 9h ago

Waiting in line for fuel while surrounded by toxic haze in Indonesia.

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u/DrDysonIdo 9h ago

Why are so many people in line for fuel?

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u/cborne943 9h ago

This is in Bali. A fuel tanker ship couldn’t get into dock or something and the island ran out of fuel.

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u/Effective_Inside1899 7h ago

I dont think this video in bali, and also a lot of places in Indo have this problem

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u/SweetHomeNorthKorea 7h ago

From what I understand the fires and fuel shortages are two separate problems happening at the same time. Farmers are burning forests down for farmland and they’ve been ramping up their efforts considerably this year. That’s why the air quality is so bad. The fuel station lines are from the tanker ship not being able to make its delivery.

I watch a lot of those business insider videos and they feature a LOT of heartbreaking stories of impoverished Indonesian folks trying to get by. It’s absolutely gut wrenching to see how hard the struggle is over there

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u/guineapigenjoyer123 3h ago

Bali doesn’t really have haze right now so it’s not there

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u/Vyncent2 9h ago

A (1) fuel tanker couldn't get into the dock and the whole island ran out of fuel?

One??

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u/phido3000 8h ago

Bali is an island, its not the entire American continent. It is common for islands to have just 1 port and lucky if they have any specialised oil unloading facilities are all. Often they just unload directly into tanker trucks on smaller islands

The ship had an anchor problem, some bad weather, and it was delayed.

Bali has 4 million people on it.

https://abcnews.com/International/wireStory/fuel-crisis-hits-indonesias-bali-triggers-long-lines-137257852

The same thing would happen in the USA if fuel deliveries were delayed by 24hrs. People panic buy fuel, it runs out.

Indonesia ironically had huge oil reserves. Its why Japan invaded them in WW2.

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u/Vyncent2 8h ago

Pretty good info, thanks. I'm German, just saying.

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u/Wildrovers 8h ago

Why are you just saying lol

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u/TheGloomyWoodpecker 7h ago

Because the previous response assumed they were American

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u/Slappathebassmon 6h ago

Yeah, if he was American, he would have mentioned it in his original reply.

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u/TheGloomyWoodpecker 6h ago

Your account history is very American-centric. So I’ll guess you’re some sort of maple loving snow mexican who wants to distinguish themselves from the US, but still wants to be involved in the culture.

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u/PraetorianX 8h ago

It's another WW2 reference

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u/phido3000 2h ago

Sorry. Germany is still a large country with numerous ports, part of what europe likes to call a continent. My american swing or jab was perhaps missing the mark a little.

Bali is particularly far away, and not well known to many.

But yes, we are all very vulnerable to a collapse in oil deliveries. It doesn't even have to be a war.

A broken port, a grounded ship in a canal, a strike. Within 24hrs people panic buy, typically causing some fuel stations to run out, and as soon as people see they full panic sets in.

Developing countries like Indonesia that is fairly common. But it can certainly happen to developed countries like Germany or the UK.

While not completely self sufficient Indonesia has its own oil, and the oil fields aren't even that far from Bali. So this isn't even a war thing.

We all need to move to EV as quickly as possible as global order is breaking down and international trade with it. Each country needs to try to have systems to handle these types of shocks, either really deep storage like China and Japan, or energy independence, or both.

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u/Garfalo 8h ago

Lmao Jesus dude, you need to get laid or something

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u/Vyncent2 9h ago

A come on ya baffoon. Maybe learn English. That's what you said.

A fuel tanker. As in one

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u/AnjingChibao 9h ago

AHH, nice and relaxing, it's like watching two kids, who aren't yours fight eachother over something completely trivial. And it's just not your damn problem.

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u/SharpVariety2927 8h ago

Man, your comment made me laugh harder than it should have! 😂

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u/cborne943 8h ago

And me, and I’m in the argument lol

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u/ImFeelinBotty 8h ago

Lovely day innit?

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u/swinchester83 9h ago

Fucking cry about it bud 

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u/cborne943 9h ago

Learn English?? Maybe you should and maybe some grammar. “A come on ya baffoon”. Firstly “A” isn’t how that sentence should’ve started, and secondly, it’s spelt “buffoon”.

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u/Vyncent2 9h ago

That was English with a Scottish accent you bawbag.

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u/cborne943 8h ago

Ahh I should have guessed it could only be a pure warmer who thought that someone can read from an illiterate sentence on reddit that they were talking in a scottish accent lol…

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u/wotsdislittlenoise 8h ago

Despite not being Scottish

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u/Vyncent2 8h ago

Maybe educate yourself. I know, it's a crazy concept.

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u/cborne943 8h ago

So educate me. Tell me how anyone is supposed to know from that sentence that is could be said in a Scottish accent?? Seriously how, because you started the sentence with “A”?? You kicked off all this by pulling me up on my post, that I need to learn English and then you make a statement like that.

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u/zaevilbunny38 1h ago

It seems more along the lines that there was panic buying due to a ship delay and that's what caused the shortage. The ship delayed was carrying roughly 58 million liters or about 15 million gallons

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u/ForgottenGrocery 5h ago

Not Bali. Bali isn’t choked with the haze from the fires. The watermark says Sumatra.

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u/twippy 9h ago

Fuel rationing

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u/riders321 4h ago

Indon here. Subsidized fuel is capped per year for each province. Now as the normal fuel price raised everyone is looking for subsidized fuel only. This happens mostly outside java/bali but no one expected bali having this problem

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u/PartsUnknown242 9h ago

The Indonesian island of Bali is experiencing a major fuel shortage due to a supply chain breakdown. A combination of various factors is causing the breakdown.

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u/orangpelupa 5h ago

Otoh the text in the video says Sumatera 

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u/ForgottenGrocery 5h ago

Yeah, the ones that has haze problem is Sumatra and Kalimantan

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u/Dense_Ads3 9h ago

People still need fuel to get to work and keep their lives running, even when the air quality is horrendous.

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u/chickadee-stitchery 9h ago

What is the "toxic haze"??

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u/Feisty_Record_6440 9h ago

Wildfires and farmers burning land. Shit happens every damn year and was annoying af when I lived in singapore

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u/arequipapi 6h ago

Dude, up until 2010 farmers still did open burns in the Willamette Valley in Oregon. It was AWFUL. The practice was banned in 2010 thankfully

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u/MeasureOnceCuttTwice 9h ago

Oh yeah. You enter the haze, think, "well this is disgusting," then every few kilometers just see local trash and tires being burned in big piles throwing off yellow or black smoke.

Several days later the chickens will be back to pick for scraps that didn't get burned all the way.

That was my experience in Indonesia. I will sacrifice more of my health to get back there still. Amazingly gorgeous country.

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u/hardinho 9h ago

It's much worse now, they burned big parts of Sumatra for slash and burn and it's incredibly toxic and drifting to places like Singapore for weeks and months now.

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u/LurkerOnTheInternet 8h ago

I assume it's not Singaporeans doing it, but Malaysians and the smog blows south? I'd be surprised if Singapore allowed it.

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u/Chinpokomaster05 8h ago

No, it's in Indonesia and the smoke is blowing into Singpaore and Malaysia

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u/islobojono 8h ago

Malaysia is not stupid like Indonesia

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u/Azsunyx 9h ago

A mediocre cover band from my high school

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u/Brittany5150 9h ago

Kinda like Chocolate Rain, but a lot less fun.

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u/No-Travel9485 9h ago

The farmers do burn land to make way for palm oil plantations which is used for chocolate 

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u/DullEntertainment102 9h ago

I’m assuming from all the still uncontrolled wildfires, but I can be mistaken

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u/islobojono 8h ago

Not uncontrolled, intentional fires.

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u/DullEntertainment102 8h ago

Intentional and controlled is fine but unfair intentional and uncontrolled aren’t mutually exclusive

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u/islobojono 6h ago

They're intentionally not controlling it.

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u/deenali 5h ago

Nope. Intentional and causing their neighbors Malaysia and Singapore to close schools due to their stupidity.

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u/HujanDTMalam 9h ago

nah, youre right. theres about 11-15 wildfires in indonesia and all of the smoke is causing the haze

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u/fhs 5h ago

Wildfire smoke, the particulates are bad for the health. Once the PM 2.5 particles enter your body, they don't leave nor get metabolized. So wildfire smoke should be avoided as best as possible. n95 masks help a lot

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u/thatdude_1991 9h ago

I'm pretty sure it's from forest fires

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u/nicolewatson- 9h ago

does anyone know if the haze is causing supply chain disruptions to all the nearby stations or is this just panic buying making the lines stack up?

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u/Pigjedi 7h ago

Oil shortage is due to mis management of oil reserves and panic buying. Haze is caused by farmers intentionally burning millions of acres of forest down

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u/alluth 6h ago

not really farmer when its corpo scale backed by goverment

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u/juniorjaw 2h ago

Separate issue, combined to make a day that REALLY sucks.

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u/jbca909 5h ago

Why do Indonesians allow their country to be so messed up? I've been told by Indonesians I know it's corruption which is understandable but hot damn! 

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u/yamanagashi 3h ago

You don’t know corruption until you’ve tried South East Asian corruption. Western movies and shows generalize third world corruption like how they see Mexican or Greek corruption - corrupt, payable cops, mafia-style “you talk you die” threats, scandal types. Now while you definitely do get those here, it’s much more systemic than that.

Every breathing part of the day for everyone is a practice in compromise. You compromise with your family and your neighbors. You get the Austronesian sense of filial piety, you need to socially-enforce saving face, you feel that greasing the wheel is what actually get things done. Kickbacks are written-in to the annual country budget, you just accept it as fact that anyone who runs office has already established themselves as having a finger in the pie of what’s taken as tax. And you just enjoy what little morsels are left to you. All the while you see your roads and hospitals and schools and welfare crumble around you. And what do you aspire? Not to make it better, no. You aspire to finally get to know someone that already has their finger in the pie so you can get a piece of it too.

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u/Secret_Note6316 2h ago

Damn that is one shitty ass situation

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u/jbca909 2h ago

Powerful. Sorry it's like that, sucks to hear. I've heard the best thing to do is leave the country and work somewhere else. 

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u/blissrunner 15m ago

Then there's the double edge sword again... Only middle-class/rich people or the kids of corrupt government officials can probably get out (immigrate to stabler/richer 3rd world or 1st world countries).

At no guarantee too... some countries just reject any PR, or would only accept you for cheap/menial labor (e.g. Japan)

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u/dualeone 1h ago

Well said from experiences

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u/Regular-Variety-552 4h ago

it is their own fault for choosing yhe wrong leader, to be deceived by promises when they already know his trackrecord while he was in the gov backthen

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u/fhjjjjjkkkkkkkl 3h ago

The leader was an instigator in 1997 racial riots . Idiots chose him. Hopeless country and people. Undoing the good of the dutch

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u/Successful_Stone 1h ago

The Indonesians are like this because of the Dutch. They learnt how to conduct corruption and atrocities from their colonial masters, then decided to work on perfecting it.

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u/fhjjjjjkkkkkkkl 1h ago

Bro just look at Philippines Thailand Malaysia. Dutch weren’t the problem

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u/BusyMountain 1h ago edited 1h ago

As a Singaporean with Indonesian descent, screw the Dutch. Screw all colonial imperialism. We Singaporeans got it lucky cos the Brits decided to build schools and improve the lives of the locals here.

But everywhere else? Nothing good comes out of colonialism. Indonesia could’ve been a better country if the resources were not exploited by the Dutch for 3 Centuries.

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u/fhjjjjjkkkkkkkl 1h ago

Come on. Indonesia is same like Australia Papua with mostly aboriginal population. In Central Kalimantan people were still head hunting and practising some form of cannibalism . Dutch unified and created the identity which is powering the Indonesian nationalism. Otherwise it’s just a bunch of island nations like in the Caribbean .

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u/watchedngnl 2h ago

The good of the dutch? You mean ethnic cleansing, slavery, segregation and unsustainable exploitation with no attempts to build a nation? Imperialists are stupid but dutch imperialists are even worse.

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u/FrogsMakePoorSoup 3h ago

It's been this way for so long now. There's a massive population spread over an enormous number of islands, historical problems, a fair bit of foreign interference, and just general acceptance of inequality. As an Australian we kinda watch on wondering if there'll ever get organised.

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u/HujanDTMalam 9h ago

honestly not as bad as it is in palembang currently

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u/AndrewRyanMcC 9h ago

Why do they all drive the same car?

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u/Hawne 8h ago

Because it's clever. The line would be longer if they each drove their own!

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u/MrRuck1 9h ago

I was waiting for someone to open a car door.

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u/D_Winds 9h ago

Everyone else is the problem.

-me

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u/snowcold 8h ago

Was amazed at how respectful people were in navigating the chaotic driving in Bali. No one trying to jump in between with their ford raptors on a busy street. People were so patient with their driving

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u/orangpelupa 5h ago

The video is in bali? The text says Sumatera. Mislabeled? 

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u/Alarmed-Beginning486 4h ago

It is in Sumatera. Bali does not have a haze problem

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u/Electrical-Guard5775 4h ago

Fuel is not an option and never going to be in the future. The whole atmosphere smell really bad now a days. :(

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u/DaveDibiachi 2h ago

Thank you Umerica

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u/Tjobbert 9h ago

When I see a line like that I'd give up. If it is that bad by the time I am there it's all out of fuel. Time to get the bycicle out!

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u/orangpelupa 5h ago

Time to get the bycicle out!

Aaaand collapse, can't breath, full of smoke 

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u/Gooliez 8h ago

There isn't enough fuel in a tanker to fill all those cars and bikes, i feel sorry for the people at the end of the line

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u/Civil_Deer7337 8h ago

Yeah. I've been in situations like this in my home country. The whole day gets shot.

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u/Pigjedi 7h ago

Incompetent, stupid, uneducated, backwards, corrupted leaders of Indonesia ladies and gents, caused this. Allowing their citizens to burn down millions of acres of forest for palm oil plantation, not just polluting other countries, they wipe out animal habitats and ecosystems. And it's not even a natural disaster. They burn the forests willingly. They don't even care about the health of their own citizens. Now they run out of oil due to mis mgt of oil imports. Went to shit once a tanker met some troubles.

Imagine managing to pollute the entire singapore and Malaysia, who are located about a thousand kilometer away and another thousand km landmass north. How much forests have been burned down, and this is like the 6th/7th week into the haze.

Then u have braindead indonesian ministers that blame singapore and Malaysia companies, so when SG asked for the list of companies so they can hunt them down, Indonesia went "oh no no.. Not like that. Thank you and noted". *access blocked

2 Ministers have said singapore and Malaysia should thank Indonesia for oxygen when there's no haze. That's how stupid they are

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u/RandomDustBunny 6h ago

Just point fingers at the government. Their common citizenry in kalimantan has it way worse than us.

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u/Pigjedi 5h ago edited 2h ago

did u fail comprehension. Every sentence says Indonesian ministers

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u/RandomDustBunny 2h ago edited 2h ago

Hey fucking Shakespeare, what do you think 'allowing citizens' mean eh? Are governments citizens? Are corporations citizens? They're all fucking citizens. But when we say citizens, the implication is often the common folk. So learn a fucking lesson you fucking idiot.

Who's directing the fucking burning? Do they include Singaporean and Malaysian companies?

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u/Pigjedi 2h ago

Crazies. State of Indonesia

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u/RandomDustBunny 2h ago

Average sinkie who sings happy 'berfday', can't blame ya on hindsight.

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u/Pigjedi 2h ago edited 2h ago

With these kind of commentators and level of civility, no wonder they picked such leaders. It's a reflection of the populace

If you're not Indonesian then you might as well join them. Since your level of intellect is the same as the indo government

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u/Big_Shoulder4575 9h ago

looks like actual silent hill out there… wild that people are just sitting in that air waiting for gas

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u/Life-Oil-7226 9h ago

Regardless of toxic haze you still gotta get gas…

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u/ScrotalSmorgasbord 4h ago

Time to swap to e bikes

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u/Notyit 8h ago

This gonna be us in like ten months 

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u/elmorigs 6h ago

Indonesia what a great neighbor /s

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u/fredlllll 6h ago

"hello i would like more burnjuice to burn"

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u/Ghitit 5h ago

Time to get a bicycle.

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u/brettaes 5h ago

“Paradise”

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u/Impressive_Canary922 3h ago

All they know is that at least they won the fifa ASEAN cup.

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u/InnerYesterday1683 3h ago

Time to buy EV

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u/quidpqqpdiuq 3h ago

Very considerate of them to line the side of the road

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u/uasdguy 9h ago

What is happening here?

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u/PartsUnknown242 9h ago

Fuel shortage is Bali

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u/Praethor_Superior 9h ago

Welch Wahnsinn trieb dort hin?

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u/a_shootin_star 8h ago

The world is sick

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u/Background_Dinner387 7h ago

Never seen so many kei trucks in one place.

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u/_Bike_Hunt 6h ago

Honestly the most surprising thing here is that they even queue up at all

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u/Spaceboy779 5h ago

"This is fine"

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u/Ok_Rich7455 5h ago

illuminati game card is getting real

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u/assfghjlk 4h ago

That’s living Barry

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u/Kind-Instruction-153 4h ago

I hate Living in a perpetual state of city 17

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u/DEvoid972132 2h ago

It not the corruption or the leader but the people Indonesia so Damm stupid.

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u/nmsobri 2h ago

a nuisance to their neighbors. this shit has started since August.. piece of garbage government

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u/Maleficent_Price_476 1h ago

Indonesia is too big and too unevenly distributed for a properly functioning government .

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u/beef_horfun67 1h ago

They brought this into themselves. They allowed this to happen. I don’t feel sympathy for people who willingly hurt themselves.

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u/SoalEptanaz1997 5m ago

saatnya berbabi

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u/Caramel_Chicken_65 9h ago

A tropical paradise!

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u/MillyQ3 8h ago

Sucks to not buy a electric scooter.

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u/Make-TFT-Fun-Again 8h ago

Leave it to the Indonesians to destroy Indonesia

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u/Drak_is_Right 7h ago

Palm oil and population growth are the two most destructive forces to Indonesia's rainforests.

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u/Electrical-Sale-8051 8h ago

Never a better time to transition to EV. And power by solar 

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u/toastiiii 7h ago

i wonder if the haze affects solar panels. I'd expect it to but idk much about that.

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u/windowpuncher 7h ago

If the smoke blocks or dims light, then yes. So yes.

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u/Electrical-Sale-8051 4h ago

You would be amazed how much solar our home system harvests on even a cloudy day, haze would be likely just a minor dent in production 

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u/Electrical-Sale-8051 4h ago

A bit but they’re amazingly efficient. It’s a cloudy overcast  day here in Australia now and our house is still pulling 6kw right now.

Haze would dent production but it’s amazingly efficient 

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u/Fortestingporpoises 7h ago

Wouldn't it be funny if they got to the front of the line only to realize all the cars were in the motorcycle lane and all the motorcycles were in the car lane?

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u/Nalivai 7h ago

Damn, if only there was another way to get energy for moving around. But alas, nobody invented anything except burning oil.

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u/Affectionate-Chard36 3h ago

Why depends on the government when the people there have are occupying the land and resources

Start a revolt, overthrow them. Take back the land that belongs to you. The rich and government don’t own this, they belong to the people

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u/4ssteroid 2h ago

This is so naive, or you've never been out of Finland or something. It's extremely hard because of the people themselves.

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u/yosman88 54m ago

As an Indonesian its not as easy as you make it out to be. We can't just "overthrow" a government. Lots of people are still traumatized from Suharto, but know this we are upset and angry but violence will only hurt us further. When the elections come we hope to get someone better.

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u/Jasonguyen81 1h ago

Lol, just like that right?

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u/KepalaButo 36m ago

Cakap senang cam bodo

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u/SourFix 9h ago

Wasn't this the tropical paradise that boomers were "escaping" to after ruining their their own country?

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u/Steelbug2k 9h ago

What a stupid comment.

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u/SourFix 9h ago

Aww, shucks. Somebody on The Internet doesn't like what I said.

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u/Bennowolf 9h ago

Bot comment

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u/SourFix 9h ago

Heh?

Oh, uh...beep boop beep boop boop

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u/Steelbug2k 8h ago

Yes we can clearly report it.

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u/SourFix 7h ago

Hahahahaha ok? Report it. Why the fuck are you telling me?

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u/wintrwandrr 6h ago

Panic buying. Everyone hears there is a problem with fuel supply, so they rush to fill up. All at the same time. 

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u/orangpelupa 5h ago

That's what's the govt propaganda currently touting.

Even in Java island, fuel has been spotty for months 

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u/viperswhip 9h ago

Is this a small town? There are typically 3 gas stations close to each other nearly everywhere in Canada.

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u/Kcufasu 9h ago

What is the relevance of Canada? This is Indonesia

But given you decided to yap on about your own country, I very much doubt there are "3 fuel (sorry can't bring myself to say gas for something that's a fucking liquid) stations" close together anywhere in the middle of the very deserted areas in the north of Canada anyway

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u/viperswhip 9h ago

I know, it was just a comparison. And ya, but in Canada, if this many people live somewhere, we have 3 gas stations.

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u/Chinpokomaster05 8h ago

You need to see parts of the world outside of Canada

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u/callingo 6h ago

Dumbasses trying to bring extinction to their own country. The modern day genocide.