r/WonderWoman • • 1d ago

I have read this subreddit's rules Wonder Woman's Golden Age Weakness Question

Ok so, i've always had the notion that if a man ties up Diana she loses her powers.
I'm currently reading the Golden Age era and basically every issue she's being tied up and she just escapes with no trouble.

I've only read until Sensation Comics #12.
Am i missing something or is this as inconsistent as her "bullets" weakness?

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u/pop_bandit 1d ago

It wasn’t if she was tied up, it was specifically if a man chained her bracers together

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u/Impossible-Bug2038 1d ago

wasn't there also an element of her having to allow it? I thought she had to specifically submit to a man and allow him to chain her bracers.

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u/two-for-joy 1d ago

Originally it was phrased that she had to 'let' a man do it, so the earlier stories have it happen when she agrees to it (either because she was faking capture or her enmies were holding a hostage). But then after a few issue it seems marston dropped that idea and she lost her powers even when she was chained without her consent, or even knowledge in some cases.

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u/Yami454 1d ago

Varied a bit by writer:

  • Marston & Hummel: Amazons lose their powers if a man welds their bracelets together.
  • Kanigher: If a man bound her with her lasso she had to obey (this was less a weakness and more just how the lasso worked).

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u/OJONLYMAYBEDIDIT 1d ago

Is her bullet weakness inconsistent? Or do people just mix up her elseworlds counterparts?

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u/Organic-Respond7038 1d ago

It's inconsistent. In some comics she can catch them or even divert them with her hands and in others she's like butter facing a hot knife

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u/OJONLYMAYBEDIDIT 1d ago edited 1d ago

do you happen to have any examples of her catching bullets?

and I think the inconsistency would be some writers failing to have her be hurt by bullets, as opposed to the other way around.

not being bullet proof is the norm.

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u/Organic-Respond7038 1d ago

I would rather it wasn't the norm tbh

(and this is the closest one i got to what you asked, i thought that she catched one too in Harley's Little Black Book #1 but after checking it it could just be the bracelets)

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u/sb3veeee 17h ago

Not sure the specific context of this one, but she's not wearing her bracers here and she's stronger without them so that could be why this happened

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u/Organic-Respond7038 14h ago

That was "only" during the new52 (and the Golden Age but that is barely mentioned nowadays), there's no mentioning in this comics that she's stronger than usual.

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u/sb3veeee 14h ago

Damn shame too. For something that's been around for as long as the character's existed and is as neat as it is, it really ought to make a comeback

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u/Rogthgar 1d ago

In case you dont know, the writer (Marston) had a bit of thing for that.

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u/TurboRedLightning 1d ago

William Marston was the psychologist and creator who received all the well-deserved credit, but, in reality, much of the work may have come from women. For instance, it was his wife, Elizabeth, who suggested that the character be a superheroine rather than a superhero. She was an admirer of the poet Sappho and had studied ancient Greek; born on the Isle of Man, she was a university-educated immigrant, a psychologist and lawyer, often viewed as a modern-day Amazon (by the standards of the 1940s). That said, thanks to Jill Lepore’s The Secret History of Wonder Woman (2014), we now know of the influence exerted by many women behind the scenes; specifically, we know that a significant portion of the bondage influence can be attributed to Marjorie Wilkes Huntley.

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u/cantpickname97 13h ago

I feel like any description of the three of them is incomplete without the fact that they were a polyamorous triad, and the two women remained partners long after William Marston died. He didn't just "have a thing" for bondage, all the sapphic bondage stuff was sourced directly from his life experience. He was very open about his belief that the ideal form of government was "a loving matriarchy" and that he wanted to influence young male readers by presenting them a woman anyone would want to be a "willing slave" to.

So yeah his wife and their girlfriend absolutely deserve credit for much of his work. The whole mythos of Wonder Woman is built on his love for his bisexual dominatrixes

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u/TurboRedLightning 13h ago

There is a great deal of confusion surrounding this polyamorous arrangement. Although both women were partners of William Marston, there is absolutely no evidence that they maintained a romantic, lesbian relationship with each other, beyond a bond of sisterhood. Elizabeth worked outside the home; one day, she returned to find herself faced with a choice: either be left behind or live with Olivia. After an eight-hour walk, she agreed. For William, it's a polyamorous relationship; for them, the romantic aspect, up until now, was solely with William, unless proven otherwise. Olivia took on the role of managing the household and raising the children, while Elizabeth worked as a lawyer.

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u/MovieMaster2004 1d ago edited 1d ago

I know being tied up was a weakness, but how does she escape it? Like, she’s just good at escaping binding as a normal human or does she somehow still use her Amazonian power?