While also notably, not being erusian, not serving with the erusian, flying under osean wings and in fact. being arguably the sole reason erusia lost at all.
Crackpot theory for a modern Zero-equivalent: Tasha's mom used to be on really good terms with Tewy before the war. Flying joint exercises in the frontier, each praising each other's skills. Until it all came apart when Sotoa, being Sotoa, invades some netural country allied to Yuktobania, forcing the superpower to intervene.
AKA, basically doomed yuri, like how Zero is seen as a doomed yaoi plot between Cipher and Pixy.
I would pay $199.99 for the Deluxe Edition twenty minutes early access 100 Ace Coin and a shitty Mig-21 skin if they made a doomed yuri AC. And I'd still feel like I got a deal
/uj According to the Fort Grays document, Cope migrated 30 years ago. Since Tewey is 42 by April 2030, we can assume Cope was 12 at most (likely younger) when he moved to Usea, and then later gaining citizenship and entering the naval academy. He most certainly never flew with Tewy.
Edit: Wait, does this mean Tewy was at most 12 years old when Cope saw her fly? What the fuck.
Nah, Tewy's probably got a decade over Cope at minimum to make this work. Her being nobility means she probably got the fast-track in the airforce the moment she hits 20, get her tour done, and exit with the benefits of nepotism, only to end up being cracked at the stick, and the rest is (strange) history.
EDIT: I'm getting the kind of age gap vibe akin to Anakin and Amidala, now that I think about it some more 🤔
We already sorta got that? Cope's got his fingers on the entire plot from beyond the grave due to unfinished business, Tewy's a woman with a disability who got her wings [back] through Darkness of Enigma. It's themes!
He was 15-16 when the Sotoa-Yuktobania war happened, and was tending to the family pastures when Tewy came for a visit, and still is after she left. The migration was way later in his life.
It'd be a series first to have the protagonist be an already-established character, so I think it'd be that we play as a Yuktobanian pilot and Tasha's mom is our wingman. Final mission is her holding off Tewy while we're preoccupied with a Sotoan superweapon.
Yuri aside, i got a feeling we'll get to see Tewy's past (and her white Berkut) real soon. Flesh out her past character and the event that changed her. I do wonder if we'll also see Gambler 1 during her heyday.
I mean, personally, I wouldn't mind just witnessing the event, Tasha's mom strikes me as too detailed to be a future MC, unless PA does another Assault Horizon and gives us a talking MC... Which would be cool as a spin-off... If it had good gameplay...
Either option is fine with me. I just think there's at least a small chance, since Tasha's Mom doesn't have a face or voice.
The mercenary option is just for the full pattern repeat from the meme.
I guess who we play as depends on who is the defending side of the Sotoa-Yuktobania War.
Yuktobania being the defending side would be cool, since we've never played as them before. We could get more Russian aircraft representation, and it's sheer timeline proximity to the Circum-Pacific War would give us AC5 references.
On the other hand, Sotoa being the defenders and surviving the war by the skin of their teeth could also lead quite nicely into AC8.
I can easily imagine why a smaller country might go on a rampant military buildup, and seek out a super weapon as a deterrent.
A spear that can slay any beast with a clap of thunder...
I agree, Sotoa may have industrialized super fast to counter Yuktobania hegemony on the Verusean continent. They got to keep their independence but doomed their country in the process.
thank you lol, i am seeing this prequel sentiment way way too much on here like people are just purposefully ignoring the seeds PA have been planting. we already have a zero, the emotional weight and novelty of a second one would just not be there
I doubt PA would go back into the past. They have been building too many hints to Electrosphere era in both 7 and 8. But what I do believe is...
AC9 will probably return the Ace Style and will make us play as a mercenary, probably doing work for the corporations that now control the continent and-wait that's just Armored Core.
That would be kinda cool: a game with a lot of smaller conflicts where you’re a merc squadron and you slowly uncover that some megacorp or shadowy organization is putting all these conflicts in motion for reasons.
Would fit the usual AC story arc. Also shares the merc arc with Zero so it’d fit the pattern OP noticed.
Now you say that I'm thinking of something like Armoured Core in which there's a load of different forces at play, and, being a mercenary, you take whichever missions you want to, different picks allowing or locking out other missions.
I've been saying that for awhile. Part of thinks that will happen cause you never actually see or hear from the player character in any Ace Combat minus Assault Horizon, and we don't see or hear from Tasha's mother.
After the mole men start divulging the info on the Wings hoax, Tasha's dad mentions that he was speaking with his wife through the internet and that she mentioned even Yuktobanian news had started talking about it.
We're never playing as named characters. Only meet them. And, personally, I like it this way. The protagonist is less a person more of a war spirit, akin to a Shezzarine.
That said - having Tasha's mom as a wingman or an allied ace - would be wicked. Either as someone we have to look up to, or a contrasting character.
Except 3 to 04 all mainline Ace Combat game been release in chronological order so the actual 9 will still be in 2031 and up but it doesn't mean Sotoa-Yuktobania war games wouldn't happen it just wouldn't be AC9
Why would we be going back in time? Its cool Tasha's mom took down Tewy at her prime, but I don't particularly want a full game for that specific moment.
I figure that, in it's way to be a paralel to Zero, AC9 is gonna look a lot like AC Infinity plot-wise: IUN/UPEO, Mercenary and Megacorp PMC squadrons fighting proxy wars all over the world, in some missions as enemies facing each other, in others as rivals fighting for the same side according to the wills of the market.
It would be a way of both showing us recurring locations in Usea (which is important if their final goal is the plot of Electrosphere) while also allowing us to visit new locations in Verusa, Osea and so on (which would otherwise never be explored if we continue stuck in Usea for the 100th time).
This would equaly allow for the return of the Mercenary/Soldier/Knight system from Zero (such as "helping the IUN in their mission to keep the geopolitical situation stable and the Megacorps at bay" vs "trying to keep the tradition of oldschool freelance mercenaries alive, like the ones we see on 1, 2 and 0" vs "being part of the new generation of PMCs employed by the megacorps, getting more profit in exchange for less freedom on how you fly"). Maybe even the return of branching paths depending on the player's choice of affiliation.
I love this but in my mind that kind of framework always makes me yearn for a Merc simulator in this world along the ways of the harebrained schemes battletech game or something like dynasty warriors origins in structure.
Actually let me work for the highest bidder and move the war in different ways down routes based on the missions taken and the wins and losses wracked up for each side. Aircraft warlord simulator would be a neat way to showcase this new weird warfare structure.
I am hoping we're Savian Mercenaries. In the age of mega corps having a country that hires out it's army would work as good transition point between a full merc force like Sicario vs a national Force like the FCU
Terminus Fingers crossed we get the Three types of Aces System again except it's Nemo watching our character fly deciding on how blood thirsty they get when they do a heel turn inevitably have to be shot down preferably after fulfilling their purpose of killing dision.
If it were to follow the trend, it would be a prequel to and set during a conflict before AC8. Perhaps following the Yuktobanian-Sotoan War, and featuring a duel between Tasha’s mom and Luna 11 - Tewy? Perhaps Tasha’s mom can make a cameo?
I get the distinct feeling AC9 will be an AC3 remix/remake.... maybe what actually happened outside the simulationEither way... i'd love something like a ZoE versus DoE showdown...
I'm hoping if AC9 is a prequel, we get older jets like we did in Zero. Itching to fly the Mitsubishi F-1 and the J35 Draken again. Hell, why not dust off and throw in some even older jets while we're at it? Buccaneer, A-7E, MiG-23/27, F-105 Thunderchief.
They reference the sotoan yuktobanian war but they dont treat it with the same sorta like importance that 5 treated the belkan war with. Its really only important to Tewys backstory not to the plot itself, unlike the Belkan war which was a key factor to the plot of 5.
Tbh I doubt we'll ever play the sotoan-yuktobanian war since it seems Sotoa lost and ace combat usually has the player nation be west/nato inspired so with yuktobania being russian inspired I dont think theyre gonna be a player faction anytime soon.
Also i gotta add, mobius 1 and trigger would be the heroes of Usea, not Erusea
Imagine if we get a prequel to Ace Combat 8. The Sotoa-Yuktobania War. They mention it quite a bit throughout the game sorta like how AC5 mentions the Belkan War
If we want a Sotoa-Yuke war in 2009-2010 timeline path then we should tie it in with Ace Combat 5 given Sotoa weaken the Yukes allowing Osea to get a foothold on their land. (Love to see how they protected their capital and how they restored the land to pre war state with how they delt with the Gray men from their POV)
Doing the Sotoa/Yuktobania war where Tasha's mom served would certainly avoid the future-tech megacorpo world that Ace3 implies in the timeline (as its literally a decade away from 8), but at the same time, think its about time PROJECT ACES considers dipping more into the unique strangely real future planes they had from Ace3, given the obvious headaches they're having with plane licensing this run.
Unpopular opinion, ace combat wouldn’t be as good if it went back to electrosphere. AC8 already overlaps the timeline and they don’t mix well on the same timeline. The timelines just don’t line up anymore. Additionally, part of the fun is planes we know and love. The thrill of being a dramatized action hero fighter pilot. It’s just feasible enough, I didn’t say fully realistic, to be enjoyable. Just because some YouTuber mentioned an electrosphere remake doesn’t mean it’s a good idea. This is coming from someone who did play AC4, 5, 0, 6, 7, 8, AC infinite, and unfortunately AC AH. AC4 was a turning point in the series. An entirely different world. If anything, a story similar to ac infinite would fit better. It’s a bunch of corporations duking it out, and some advanced form of fighter jet mass production, making large air forces possible and cheap.
Because AC8 is still occurring when the foundations for AC3 starts. If coffin technology was so prevalent in AC3 why don’t we see much, if any, in AC8? The only company they both have in the game isn’t even big enough yet in AC8. It appears more as a recycled asset than a part of the same story. There would also have to be other companies of equivalent scale, the only one of which was dissolved. Enso order wasn’t even fully there yet but was likely the closest. Almost none of the characters or prerequisites are there, especially in enough quality or quantity.
The infancy of COFFIN technology started about 2029. Ace Combat 8 ends in 2030. Ace Combat 3 was all a simulation, but maybe Ace Combat 9 could be what is happening outside of that simulation, with some sort of radio chatter talking about the simulation of Electrosphere.
The rumor about a remake of AC3 started when development of 8 started years ago. The rumor I originally heard was that PA went into two teams, one working on 8 and one working on remaking 3 so that the world could get the entire story and not just the cropped up one that we got.
The entirety of AC3 was a simulation being run by the Osean intelligence desk jockey guy from 7 before the events of AC8 and didn’t actually happen yet. It failed to predict that Enso Order was a fully unpredictable singularity due to its decentralized structure and therefore did not consider the Sotoan invasion and immediate deployment of WMDs, so the buildup to the scenario we see in 3 doesn’t actually come to fruition as Dision gets injured in a spear strike and put in a coma while merging with the electrosphere. 3’s impact is not getting booted from the series though, Ace Combat 9 has the personality construct of Nemo developed by the simulation being injected into a synthetic human body, starting out as cold and methodical but eventually developing human emotions. The story becomes about what it means to be a human and about how war can take your humanity away if you let it. The twist is that a damaged part of Dision’s consciousness still managed to enter the electrosphere before being disconnected and the “synthetic” body Nemo gets injected into was actually Dision’s and they fight over who owns the body.
That’s why I don’t want a retelling of electro sphere but an ace combat 3^2. Strange real has developed a lot as a world so just adapting the story and world of 3 doesn’t really works
The technological jump is quite large. There’s plenty of room to fill the gaps. That’s why I suggested something along the lines of AC infinity. It allows time and room for corporations to expand, while also explaining how they expanded. Corporations can fund rival factions or hire proxy armies to fight their battles, but the battles still feature dogfights in living skies with aircraft that feel mechanical, heavy, and real. I also liked someone else’s comment of exploring the sotoan yuktobonian war they mentioned. Similar to how AC5 hinted at the Belkan War of AC0. Also, I’m not gonna lie. I also don’t like the idea of random sci-fi craft, and some dystopian digital scape. The jump is just to jarring.
Everytime they mentioned Yuke-Sotoa war, they always bring up Tasha mom and Tewy. Just like how in AC5 where Pop & Bartlett mentioned the mercenary during the Belkan War.
Oh please Project Aces let us play as Tasha mom that would be sick, that could also be our first (or second because some people like to imagine Nemo as female) female AC protagonist
We haven't been bloodthirsty mercs in a long time, here's hoping AC9 has actual choices with different outcomes that could affect the war, or at least certain events and background dialogue, etc.
After what happened to the crew of that land battleship, the many casual war crimes of AC8, and the Jackpot 9 subplot, I bet they could do it and make it amazing.
Trying to fall into the different ace styles in Zero is fun. Like the reflex to follow through if w bird isn't shot down immediately always had them calling me ruthless.
Electrosphere remake.
The war some time ago is the Intercorporate War (which was simulated the year AC8 ends but AC3 released in 1997, thirty years ago)
As someone late to the series, I thought some vets think 9 might be a remake/redo of 3 with all the extra sci-fi future tech? Especially since any version outside of Japanese apparently had all the story removed?
I'd like to see a fusion of ACZero and AC3 settting and themes where the player as a Merc balances their allegiance to their comrades in arms or to the corpos.
If we did go prequel, I'd love for them to go early prequel. Like...advent of jets era. Problem being, I'm not sure PA can really support it all that well. On of their greatest weaknesses is thay they have never succeeded in mailing the gunplay of these games, or the different gun systems that often separate these planes
If there was a another ACZ-style game, I'd guess it would be revolved around the Sotoa-Yuktobanian War.
My thoughts are that the protagonist would be Tasha's mom's wingman, and flying as her #2 for most of the game. She would probably be flying under her maiden name then.
When she and Tewy shoot each other down, you take over for the last phase of the game.
It would be nice if the game actually hid her identity. (like maybe not giving her blonde hair or resembling Tasha)
I know its cliche but I would kill for Ace Combat 9 to be set in Leasath. And your character joining the rebellion free to free Leasath from the North Korean type dictatorship. Well your friend is brainwashed loyal pilot.
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u/Bloodb0red 12h ago
“The hero of Erusea” seems to shoot down a lot of Eruseans.