r/aislop • u/liminalenergy • 18d ago
found on Instagram I keep receiving these on my timeline even though I lean socialist
Last I checked I'm not a monkey and idk how to play bongos đ¤Śââď¸
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u/lordehemter 18d ago
"I disagree with communism" and then they disagree with something that isn't communism? Neither Marx nor Lenin claimed that everyone would receive the same salary, they simply argued that lazy owners and selfish executives are an unnecessary burden
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u/AlternateCore 18d ago
That's the issue of being uneducated lol. People today talk about communism this or socialism that, but don't even know the principles of the ideologies they're against.
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u/lordehemter 18d ago
Yep, many people simply cant define what they disagree going for buzz words like fascist communism and shit. Hell Trumpist called Biden a communist
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u/AlternateCore 18d ago
This leads to issues like voters going against their own interest because they don't know exactly what they're voting for or against. Such as the Obamacare situation where people wanted Obamacare gone, only to lose their ACA benefits because both those things are the same thing. Always do your research before voting guys
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u/BambiRoseDoll 18d ago
republicans always make the democrats sound way cooler than they actually are
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u/Scooty-Poot 17d ago
Most MAGA voters actually seem to align very well with socialism if you just describe it without the buzzwords.
âFair wages, less power to the 1%, more workers owning part of the company theyâre employed byâ is hard to say no to. They only hate it because âcommunism badâ has been hammered into every single Americanâs heads non-stop since at least 1946.
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u/AlternateCore 17d ago
Really makes you wonder why does MAGA vote for people that are against their own interests if they share ideas that are also liked on the left.
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u/FlameYay 17d ago
Fear of brown people and/or women overrides their self preservation.
Lack of research into a subject / reactionary politics. (Basically they hear about something horrifying and just blindly believe it.)
Tribalism. "My team good guys. Your team bad guys."
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u/Satins_Cock 17d ago
My co-worker is a die hard Republican. He's got some health issues and was talking about how he wishes we had single payer healthcare, but it'll never happen because people don't vote for it....
I didn't know how to explain, that's you! You're the people!
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u/NecessaryIntrinsic 18d ago
The real wild thing is that they love it when they get what they call socialism.
I knew an old couple that survived off hate and Fox news that would throw a party every time that they got a new set of their diabetes "Obama" shoes from medicare.
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u/Imaginary-List-972 18d ago
An old coworker that friended me on facebook made a bunch of posts against gun control saying that was communism. I tried to explain that though I'm not for communism, it's mostly an economic model that has nothing to do with communism. Even if a communist country initiated gun control of some type, that doesn't make it part of the communist ideology. But even that very simple concept was too complex for them to grasp.
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u/memera- 18d ago
Anti-communist propaganda worked so well because it tied authoritarianism to an economic model. People unironically think the nazis were communist.
communist = totalitarian, therefore totalitarian = communist. Nazis were totalitarian, so they were communist
I think at least a very basic version of the two-axis political chart needs to be taught in school, it'd be so simple if people understood that cultural politics and economic politics are not the same thing
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u/MagMati55 18d ago
To be fair a lot of the socialist states had to set up a more militarised state to avoid losing an impending counterrecolution and then later had to fight capitalist powers that were much stronger than them.
The Paris commune didint randomly failed. Soldiers entered it.
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u/memera- 18d ago
For sure, a lot of communist states were authoritarian. The problem is that people believe communism is authoritarianism
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u/TreyRyan3 18d ago
Fun fact: There has never been a Communist Country ever. There have been countries that were controlled by a single Communist political party operating as an authoritarian regime but a true communist country is stateless, classless and moneyless.
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u/NeedleworkerFit819 18d ago
Tbf many donât even understand the ideologies theyâre supposedly for either.
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u/AlternateCore 18d ago
Exactly why I question people who are pro-capitalism but are against higher taxes on the rich. America had higher taxes on the rich about 2-3 generations ago and it worked out okay. Now people think it'll be the apocalypse if Bezos doesn't get his 5th yacht
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u/NotoriouslyBeefy 17d ago
People will scream about dictatorship with communism when communism is stateless and classless
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u/ChuckEveryone 18d ago
Yeah the back the blue people are also totally against socialism. Just don't tell them that public police and firefighters are socialism. Suggest public doctors/medicine and they think it is a completely foreign idea that would never work and bankrupt everyone.
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u/Round_Bag_4665 18d ago
most american conservatives seriously believe communism means everyone gets the same salary no matter what they do.
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u/mkat23 18d ago
Lmfao Iâm reminded of my dad telling me that communism meant everyone gets paid the same and given everything the same and it doesnât work because people wouldnât be motivated to actually work.
My dad is a dumb ass and itâs fucked how involved he has been in state politics over the years.
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u/Round_Bag_4665 18d ago
my dad same the same thing. He had no real response when I pointed out that many people actually did get paid more for certain jobs in the soviet union than others. The quality of life if you were say... a soviet submarine captain was going to be significantly better than the soviet ditch diggers.
He also had no real response when I pointed out that plenty of people choose professions because they find it fulfilling, not because of the pay. Including him.
That man just never actually questioned any of the cold war propaganda bullshit he was fed as a kid.
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u/Weird-Girl-Thing 18d ago
The point is to abolish the wage system entirely lol, I feel like Stalinist deviationism gave these mfs so much ammunition because they had a society with wage labour and commodity production but said it was socialism so now thatâs what everyone thinks of
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u/Tay_Hlebko 18d ago
Under a fully realized Marxist system, money wouldn't even exist lmao
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u/CommanderKoba 18d ago edited 18d ago
That's end stage communism, socialism is a transitional stage that requires the development of the productive forces and the progression of social relations to get to that point where money can be abolished.
You can't just abolish money immediately unfortunately.
Though people would get paid through a labor voucher system that is calculated based on Marx's labor theory of value.
So the amount you get paid is accurately reflected based on the labor you put forth, rather than an arbitrary decision by a capitalist.
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u/Pleasant-Future5818 18d ago
I don't understand how that isn't just money but used differently
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u/CommanderKoba 18d ago edited 17d ago
Money as it exists now is a social relation under capitalism.
So it wouldn't technically be money in the sense of money under capitalism, because instead it's value would be determined at the root, which is your labor.
I am trying to simplify this explanation and the simplification of such can cause a misunderstanding.
A highly developed socialist society in some sense can eliminate the social relation that makes up money as we know it today, but you would still be using paper (or now a digital form) that represents value for purchasing goods.
That value would just be determined concretely based on labor, rather than the market or the capitalist.
So money in layman's terms would still exist yes, but its value would be formed differently until absolute abundance is achieved with the advancement of manufacturing techniques, the productive forces in general.
Say we have fully automated the manufacturing of basic goods, then they can be given freely based on need, without requiring any form of payment that leverages the distribution of goods based on labor.
That is when "money" in laymen's terms can be eliminated.
Technically the original comment I was responding to is correct if they were referring to the social relation that makes up money under capitalism, because ideally in a highly developed Socialist system, that social relation could be abolished, but if they were referring to money in laymen's terms, which is just using an object that represents value for purchasing goods, that cannot be eliminated until full communism is achieved through the advancement of the productive forces.
It's quite complex.
A socialist society can only develop the social relations in lock step with the productive forces of that society, and the general environment of the entire planet. That's why China today still leverages the global market because that is a requirement to interact and compete with the capitalist world.
They can only abolish the current social relation of money, when they have advanced sufficiently to move onto a labor voucher system instead, then eventually they can eliminate it all together.
Communism is a multigenerational project, not an immediate destination unfortunately.
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u/ukie-witch-06 17d ago
Well, actually Lenin argued that the lazy owners and selfish executives should be appointed by the state, amd Marx was tossing and turning in his grave at the time. And then Stalin happened... And Marx got ripped apart by the centrifugal force from turning in his grave so hard.
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u/notwhoyouthinkmaybe 17d ago
I used to be a Republican and there are so many of them that say something like "there's no difference between socialism and communism."
They also believe that socialism is what this memes says, everyone gets equal pay and there's no private ownership of anything, not even the shirt on your back.
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u/Kid-Atlantic 18d ago
They can only visualize a world where there are only âwinnersâ (obscenely rich billionaires) and âlosersâ (everyone else).
So in their mind, a world where there are no winners would mean a world where everyone is a loser
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u/Ok_Machine6739 18d ago
Under socialism the monkey will be free to pursue his passion for playing bongos. Why am i supposed to want to deny the monkey his dreams?
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u/moon465 18d ago
If each persons one hour of labor is compensated the same or at least similarly, hell yeah. Why should an individual make more in a single day than a physician would make in a year?
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u/SnakeCharmer20 17d ago
Should a physician make more than a cashier?
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u/Severe-Excitement192 17d ago
Socialism doesnât mean remove all hierarchy it means hierarchy needs to be justified. If the physicianâs labor is exceptionally skilled then they still get adequate compensation aligned with the relative value of labor. Comparing a 100$/hr physician with a 15$/hr cashier is not going to be significantly different between capitalism and socialism relative to business executives and even senior engineers. The better question is should a board member or other executive make 1000x more than the senior engineers that design the product/services? I have worked as an engineer at a rate of 50$/hr for a company where the ownerâs qualification was being the grandson of the founder and he took in well over a million dollars a year worth of company shares without ever making a single improvement to the companyâs products/services. The owner never actually liquidated the shares so he never paid taxes, he just got new loans every year and used the shares as collateral. Iâm not even advocating for myself to make more Iâm comfortable, who Iâm really advocating for are the underpaid skilled labor of people like the operators of the machines building our parts and even the cashier at Walmart. They provide real service to the economy and the government has to step in with SNAP, Medicaid, or other assistance because the company can get away with giving millions to owners who evade taxes while my taxes pay for the government assistance for the underpaid laborers. I am happy that the Walmart cashier has access to SNAP and Medicaid because I used to be on that assistance when I worked as cook before finishing my degree. Instead of taxing wealth more the USA government is preparing to let social security go insolvent meaning that in this trajectory Iâm going to get less social security benefits (inflation adjusted) than my parents did.
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u/Kitsunenustik 17d ago
Why not?
If the physician makes enough that the cashier canât live off his wage, thatâs an issue of cruel planning.
If the cashier makes enough to compete with a physician thatâs an issue of flawed merit values.
People call money evil not because itâs a value system. Its value is tied to artificial power disparity and popularity. What I consistently see people hope for, is it will one day tie directly to merit and work ethic.
I give up hope.
Hope kept my family struggling to their deaths. Hope kept me laboring as a child. Hope meant once I had the power disparity, the popularity, my new struggle was convincing everyone else it was my merit and work ethic that got me the leg up I had.
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u/Bonk_No_Horni 17d ago
Some people are still confused about socialism vs communism. And there are many kinds of socialism. You can be rich and successful under socialism and still eliminate struggling class. You Also reduce crime when people aren't fucking starving because they can't afford food.
These conservatives don't understand that public road is socialism
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u/LesserValkyrie 17d ago
It's because they don't teach the difference in the US
Communism = gulags
Socialism = not working the weekend, having a living wage, your boss has to provide PPE, your boss can't shoot you down if you not work enough, maternality leave, PTO, healthcare, unions, worker ownership, unions, collective bargaining, higher wages, shorter hours, workplace democracy, job security, paid leave, social security, public services, wealth redistribution, worker protections
But in the american school it's better to teach the kids that "higher wages" = "gulags" so they don't ask for human's rights
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u/Logical-Lab3661 17d ago
Please do not post what you do not know. There's no country in the world, which built communism. And gulags were in a USSR, which at the time officially, publicly stated that they are at basic socialism. Developed socialism in USSR was officially built only in 1961. They never ever built communism. Communism was only a goal.
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u/PotentialHoneydew947 17d ago
I think they are ok with the roads because gas taxes typically pay for road maintenance. The issue for them seems to be paying for something they dont use. Things like public school or fire departments are even wasteful cause it doesnt directly benefit them. I think these people are just real cheapasses
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u/Sea-Frame5474 18d ago
Under socialism the bongo playing monkey would make an honest wage and taylor swift would still be able to live like a god
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u/TheShiftmaster 17d ago
Under socialism Taylor would pay her share in fucking taxes
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u/AlarmedPickle 18d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/XHSQ8Sn7SecblfxPJu
Little do they know the bongo playing monkey is a total stud!
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u/Someone_Existing_1 18d ago edited 16d ago
This isnât what communism or socialism is. Socialism is the people controlling the means of production, ie publicly owned hospitals, farms, factories etc. getting paid more than someone else is still absolutely possible, but it would be a lot harder to have an unfair amount of money.
When communists talk about the abolition of private property, they usually arenât referring to someone owning some random object. Marx said that private property was not a personâs belongings, such as their house, their car, things they use in everyday life, but the things owned by the upper class, like large swathes of land, factories, stocks and the like.
Neither rely on everyone being paid the same
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u/Gamer_G33k17 17d ago
Socialism is the SOCIAL ownership of the means of production, not the state. The government may RUN these programs, but they'd be OWNED by the people. Communism just goes the extra step of cutting out the state.
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u/Electroweek 17d ago
"COMMUNISM is when MONKEYS do the BONGO"
- Karl Marx, Probably
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u/CappinPeanut 18d ago
What do you mean, like the government owning large shares of companies like Intel?
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u/Visible-Echidna-4370 18d ago
this is, unintentionally, a great argument for socialism lol
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u/Working_Match4124 18d ago
I guess I'm not the only one who would rather see the bongo-playing monkey
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u/HandsomePaddyRedux 18d ago
Right? Like, yeah, I think both artists should make a livable wage so they can pursue their passions without starving and no one needs to be making private jet money anyway.
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u/Obar-Dheathain 18d ago
Spoiler: This is not a description of Socialism.
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u/Ok-Oil7124 18d ago
UGh oh my god. I'm so sick of this kind of shit. All of these people who think capitalism is getting paid for work or buying and selling shit. 99.9% of people could have the same job, get paid the same wage, and buy and sell the same shit under a socialist system that was run fairly. There just wouldn't be someone getting 80% of your productivity for their own pocket. If we just had higher income tax for the highest-paid, there wouldn't be an incentive to just scrape out all of the profits and enshittify everything. That's the capitalist/socialist compromise. But our representatives just aren't on the people's side any more; they're on capital's side so the wealthy pay less and less and the country is slowly being strangled. They pushed it to a breaking point.
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u/Relative_Pilot_8005 18d ago
Their ideal is feudalism--- rich people all want to be "lord of the manor".
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u/JuliusSeizuresalad 18d ago
Do people not know what socialism is?
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u/engineer-in-a-box 18d ago
Nope, most people think it's just communism with a different name, mostly because communists claimed it was
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u/grendelpoots 17d ago
Socialism sounds terrible. Taylor Swift shouldn't earn anywhere near as much as bongo playing monkeys.
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u/Spamsdelicious 17d ago
As usual, that isn't even how socialism works đ
Contribution-based pay: Socialist systems generally compensate workers based on the quantity, quality, and difficulty of their labor rather than giving everyone an identical paycheck.
Skill and effort differences: Jobs that require more training, skill, responsibility, or heavy effort typically offer higher compensation to incentivize productivity.
The origin of the claim: The phrase comes from a political meme meant to criticize or satirize socialist concepts of wealth redistribution, rather than describing how socialist economic policy actually functions.
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u/Spamsdelicious 17d ago
I would be remiss to not add:Â
The claim made in the meme is completely bananas.Â
That's why misrepresentations of applied Socialism appeal mostly to bongo-playing monkeys.
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u/force_0f_chaos 17d ago
Can we not post AI generated rebuttals in the comments. Itâs obvious you just sent the image to ChatGPT and it spit this out
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u/BambiRoseDoll 18d ago
actually no
but then most people dont actually understand how socialism works
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u/zonearc 18d ago
This would make sense ... If it made sense.
Too bad they have no idea what socialism is or they would realize their food stamps, their mom's social security check, and that unemployment they picked up last year weren't Republican constructs.
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u/OutrageousCrab9224 18d ago
I often wonder if the "Federalist Papers" goons consider how much hamilton and co would be rolling over in their graves over the trash ascribed
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u/liminalenergy 18d ago
I was thinking about how confusing it may be for historians to find the actual federalist papers under this AI slop
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u/Relative_Pilot_8005 18d ago
Not sure about them, but Adam Smith is up to about 3600 rpm, Karl Marx to 1800 rpm.
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u/AtheistTemplar2015 18d ago
Jesus... these people have no idea how socialism works...
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u/Educational-Pin8951 18d ago
The idiots arguing against communism have never read Marx Mannifesto, nor do they understand the actual concept of socialism in its many forms.
Without going into full Ted Talk mode, the basic concept is to distribute wealth amongst the working class. The monkey is just some straw man distraction to make something fairly straightforward seem confusing.
Capitalism is great at generating a lot of wealth for a small minority, and the gap only increases as the machine keeps running. Communism was meant to be a stop gap, or a governor to that machine⌠in its purest form it is the opposite of capitalism and would run into the same fallacy on the opposite end of the spectrum. An economy unable to generate drive because the means of production is choked.
Most European countries practice a free market economy with a strong central government that fill the gap instead with social programs and take away the cost of certain basic rights (the easiest to point at is socialized medicine of course). The market remains basically capitalistic with a few regulations to protect workers and keep the gap between the wealthy and poor relatively smallâŚ. But when your basic needs are met, the class divide is nearly invisible. There are plenty of wealthy Europeans and plenty of poor, but understanding between the lowliest worker and the wealthiest CEO is built on respect rather than loathing.
Damnit⌠this still ended up long, even with me trying to keep it as simple as I could. Sorry for the essay!
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u/Cyiel 18d ago edited 18d ago
Can I pull a statistic from my ass too ? Then what about this one : "95% of people who don't understand what socialism or communism are are just monkeys playing bongos on internet to get the attention".
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u/TheFaalenn 18d ago
There was no statistic mentioned in this post, so what do you mean by "too"
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u/Cyiel 18d ago edited 18d ago
Case of me merging two similar posts in my head because it's 7 in the morning. That said thinking about people who just pull that kind of of stuff out of their ass as monkeys help me to keep my sanity.
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u/Femboy_Fucker47 18d ago
I'd rather listen to a monkey playing bongos then Taylor Swift
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u/Complete-Tangelo1532 18d ago
That monkeys got that groove thang going for it!
I heard its going on tour soon, may need to look for tickets... they are hypothetically selling out Super Fast!
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u/Illustrious_Hawk_734 17d ago
Pretty sure bongo playing monkey has slightly fewer carbon emissions than Taylor swift so I honestly wouldnât mind them being paid similarly
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u/Salt-Technology-9702 18d ago
This is your sign to go full blown socialist. The algorithm thinks it still has a chance to persuade you.
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u/FighterOfEntropy 18d ago
Did anyone notice the source for this ridiculous claim? They stole the name of The Federalist Papers for this slop. Just a deliberate attempt to confuse the poorly-informed.
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u/crapheadHarris 17d ago
Ok, ok, but to be fair how good of a bongo player is the monkey?
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u/MediocreCheeseburger 17d ago
The algorithm is designed to make you angry in order to maximize engagement.
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u/AbsurdityIsReality 17d ago
I love how they think everyone on the left just loves Taylor Swift, honestly her and the rest of the shitty overproduced autotune pop acts now are on the level of a monkey playing bongos.
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u/itsCthuwu 18d ago
Ignoring the racist intent of the image for .5 seconds, I'd rather listen to a literal monkey play the bongos.
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u/TheJarisaDoor3 18d ago
They are doing everything they can think of to try and deny us healthcare. Very few people are trying to overhaul the United States of America. They're trying to create a social democracy like most civilized countries have. It's not socialism, it's just treating people like human beings.Â
Social Democracy keeps capitalism in place. It uses taxes and government programs to provide universal healthcare and education, similar to models in Scandinavian countries.
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u/Different-Term-2250 18d ago
Them 5 minutes later: âWhere is my government cheque for voting for them?â
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u/citizensnips43 18d ago
Except itâs the bongo playing monkeys that are making all the money
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u/ChildOfChimps 18d ago
Bongo-playing monkeys would be an entire genre of music.
You havenât lived until youâve heard Mr. Tim-Tam âYou Found the Vine to My Heart (So Swing Right In)â.
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u/CloseDaLight 18d ago
Once again proving socialism is the boogeyman they know nothing about.
Fox News entertainment told them socialism is bad but never said what it is or why they should think itâs bad.
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u/Terminate-wealth 18d ago
In socialism there would still be money and classes so this isnât true and under communism there wouldnât even be any money
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u/Key_Ad3169 18d ago
Id rather listen to monkey playing the bongo, then monkey playing the guitar, tysm
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u/Character_Fix_5317 18d ago
I too am angry about things that never happened and that no one has ever proposed!
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u/antipathy_moonslayer 18d ago edited 18d ago
Socialism is when you pay an imaginary monkey to play imaginary drums
Y'all are dumb as fuck
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u/Sea-Feedback-2424 17d ago
Maybe, maybe not.
Under socialism the monkey, however, would have the same level of ownership of their IP as Taylor does and neither would have to rerecord an album and call it "My Way" or whatever.
Under capitalism, however, the monkey banging the drums explicitly does not own their IP as to be a copyright holder you need to be a human. (Guess what AI isn't?")
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u/Altruistic_Bottle215 17d ago
The Indonesian teenagers are going hard at it trying to brainwash my uncle
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u/Nonsonouna_kadreka 17d ago
Socialism isn't like that... Socialism (mentioned by Karl Marx, recently studied) wants to protect the rights and the dignity of less lucky classes and workers by abolishing private property ON MACHINERY AND INDUSTRY to ensure that workers have a rightful, equal payment (not on houses as many tried to make people think) calling it Scientific Socialism (later became more.related to the Marx's philosophical school, hence identified in more recent times as Marxism too) since Karl Marx analyzed the strifes of social classes and birthed the rightful idea that for making changes possible the proletariat had to face off the bourgeois and be able to influence politics like them (before you say that he's a communist because of his manifesto or smth, no, communist (as we intend it today) is more extreme than Marxism)
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u/DadVader77 18d ago
95% of the people complaining about socialism couldnât even tell you what it is or why they hate it, other than thatâs what they are told by MAGA propaganda to do.
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u/Burghpuppies412 18d ago
Iâm pretty sure that didnât come from the Federalist Papers.
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u/ConsulJuliusCaesar 18d ago
What? You're telling me the founding fathers didn't write about an ideology that didn't even exist in their time? Pfffft. Next you're going to insist that they would've worded the second amendment differently if they knew school shootings would be a thing.
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u/Ashamed_Data430 17d ago
Somebody is clueless about socialism. What are the odds they attended school in America?
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u/ionspore 17d ago
They show the opposite of your political leanings because upset people are more likely to engage.
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u/Schrodingers-Femboy 15d ago
"Hey we should tax rich people so we can help pay for healthcare and schools"
"You want monkeys to play bongos!"
Like what ever the fuck
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u/Mindless-Engine7882 13d ago
I love how effective American propaganda has been at making people think that socialism is when everyone makes the same amount of money
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u/ProfessorGlaceon 18d ago
I am honestly confused as to where the stereotype that socialism means equal salaries regardless of work came from? Not one person who actually knows anything about socialism thinks this.
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u/EuVe20 18d ago
Thatâs because the algorithm is designed to drive outrage driven engagement. They put it in front of you because they want to trigger you to respond/comment.
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u/HoldenOrihara 18d ago
I don't have the full in and outs of socialism, but this doesn't sound remotely correct
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u/listenwithoutdemands 18d ago
Just saying, you find me a monkey that can lead a rhythm section, doesn't have to be Neil Pert level, of course, but a solid drummer? That dude deserves whatever he wants.
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u/gravygizzard 18d ago
Um unironically I would pay good money to see monkeys playing bongos. The person who made this does not understand how markets work
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u/CanthinMinna 18d ago
If this was a case, there would've been super famous bongo-playing monkey bands from the Soviet Union (and countries from the Warsaw Pact), and they would've toured Finland, and we would've LOVED it.
By the way, this seems to me a bit racist-coded (Black people were and are still called "monkeys", and jazz music, which has plenty of drums, was often called "jungle music" in the 1920s and 1930s.)
Preview of the first page of "The White Reception of Jazz in America"
https://www.jstor.org/stable/1512237
"Walt Minstry: Jungle Bookâs Blackface Performance"
https://pages.stolaf.edu/americanmusic/2015/04/27/walt-minstry-jungle-books-blackface-performance/
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u/CantaloupeShort7311 18d ago
If anything, this shows Taylor makes too much money (which she does).
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u/RandomMabaseCitizen 18d ago edited 18d ago
The post is meant to ragebait socialists. It appears in your algorithms because most of the people who engage with it are similar to you and got ragebaited.
Social media algorithms don't show you what they think you'll like they show you what they think you'll react to. And it's been proven people will lock in way harder to negative stimulus. Because if everything is good you keep moving, but if something is wrong you wanna do something about it.
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u/JohnWComicsGuy 18d ago
Tell me that you don't understand Socialism without saying that you don't understand Socialism.
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u/ArtComprehensive1106 17d ago
I guess conservatives donât understand the meaning of their ridiculous statements!
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u/Financial-Ad-6232 17d ago
If we're doing that, can I be the person looking after the monkey and his multi-million dollar account bank account? I promise I will provide everything the monkey needs in exchange for reasonable compensation. Monkey gets bananas, I get to run his bank account. Everyone is happy. I honestly don't see a problem with that.
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u/Life_Temperature795 17d ago
Can we get the billionaire bongo playing monkey in this timeline? It wouldn't be any good, obviously, but it would be a very helpful illustration as to how fucking pointless and useless billionaires are. And then we could pay both of them less.
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u/Mitch1musPrime 18d ago
This image feels racistâŚ
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u/FelonyFarting 18d ago
What if, and hear me out, the monkey was playing the guitar?
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u/pokethrowaway4 18d ago
Socialism â communism, and even communism doesnât manifest this stupid shit
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u/Mino67 18d ago
Wouldnât this be communism?
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u/JonathanBadwolf 17d ago edited 17d ago
This isnât anything really as monkeys do not commonly hold personhood or are entitled to compensation for playing the bongos
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u/No-Educator-8069 17d ago
Everyone knows communism is when you pay monkeys a living wage just as Carl Marks intended
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u/bezjmena666 18d ago edited 18d ago
In socialism I lived in, people working in entertainment industry, did have many "star" benefits just like their western counterparts. They even were relatively better than average factory blue collar guy, who watched them in state TV or listened them in state radio. Those socialist entertainers usually drove Western made cars, they did very well paid gigs, lived in big apartments or build themselves mansions. Their popularity opened them many doors that would be closed for average guy.
Only extra requirement, they had to show support for the rulling communist party, and distance themselves from dissent. Otherwise, no well paid gigs, no TV, no recording contracts, right back down to the factory job or boiler room. There were few that felled out of regimes favor who served as an example for the rest.
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u/Top_Recover7850 17d ago
That's communism, not socialism, you seem to get confused during your own comment.
Communism is a lot more extreme.
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u/Comfortable_Salt_792 18d ago
Yeah, Being a singer means you are a public person, and Public persons in European Communism were earning more money, just like all party members and assigned leaders for every factory.
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u/Odd_Revolution5880 18d ago
It also appealed to the last great American generation that elected FDR 4 times
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u/Wooden_Zombie_5440 18d ago
The best way to respond to idiots that think all socialists are evil is to simply say, "Jesus was a socialist".
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u/andresbigdaddy2 18d ago
Why do we act like there just doesn't have to be an entire change to the finances of the country along with the power of those who have ruined it?
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u/SnakePlissken1980 18d ago
A monkey playing bongos would be way more entertaining than Taylor Swift.
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u/Necessary_Regret3329 18d ago
Ugh, I'd hate to listen to that! I'll take the monkeys playing bongos all day!
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u/AppropriateLie9140 18d ago
Not how socialism works, they'd get the same amount from the government but they'd still have outside income
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u/CarolinaReaper704 18d ago
My strategy has become just call anyone posting shit like this a cunt and they tend to block you thereby making it less likely for you to see their shit
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u/Own-Cryptographer-0 18d ago
Maybe âtheyâ think youâll be offended on Taylor Swiftâs behalf.
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u/ajwritesnonsense 18d ago
Not knowing the definitions of terms is exactly what the elites love out of their puppets. Thatâs why they made sure Trump got elected twice.
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u/Luce_Bot_Bot 18d ago
I'd go bankrupt buying monkey bongo albums