r/aislop • • 13d ago

found on Instagram Why does the way she dress impact that Mormon Woman?

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u/StrangeJunket2601 13d ago

Yeah I can tell this was prompted by a man

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u/Dizzy-Frame-9491 13d ago

Yeah I cover up don't show skin wear multiple layers even in summer to hide my body shape because I thought it would help prevent unwanted attention. I even tried making myself fat. Guess what I still got sexually assaulted. You just can't win

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u/wasraelx 13d ago edited 13d ago

đŸ«‚ The time I was SAed was when I used to wear hijabs.

This AI woman being dressed as a literal handmaiden isn’t helping their case one bit. Go tell men to stop harassing women for a change, we tried everything to make ourselves safe.

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u/Tough_Response_904 13d ago

Getting SAed is never the victim's fault. Doesnt matter if you wear a potato sack or nothing at all. Rapist/assaulting men need to get their shit together. Sincerely, a man.

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u/Good_Background_243 13d ago

Preach it, brother!
Sincerely - another man.

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u/Amazing-War3760 13d ago

As a man.. The fact women have to go through this shit disgusts me.

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u/According-Insect-992 13d ago

“Was it really my fault?” asked the short skirt.

“No, it happened with me too,” replied the burka.

The diaper in the corner couldn't even speak.

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u/shinobi500 13d ago

Fuck that's dark

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u/SeonaidMacSaicais 13d ago

Do yourself a favor and DON’T look up the exhibit where women sent in the articles of clothing they were wearing when they got raped. There’s some little kid clothes in there, too.

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u/Gravyboat44 13d ago

The little princess onesies always get me.

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u/veravendetta 13d ago

I once heard men talking about women wearing hijab and burkas saying it made them want to rip it off so they could see what was under there. There is no way to keep men from wanting to rape, only men can stop themselves from raping

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u/Dizzy-Frame-9491 13d ago

I'm so sorry to hear that. It hurts when you think you're doing everything right and your finally safe and that safety gets shattered

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u/unsolicited_flattery 13d ago

I'm so sorry you experienced that. Creeps will always be always and nobody should have to tip toe around but creeps and nonces can't control themselves

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u/Xwalkingxthexcowx 13d ago

From what I've read sexual assault isn't about a guy being so horny he can't control himself as it's often depicted -- it's a power/control thing.

People in nursing homes get sexually assaulted as well.

No one should have to experience that. Of course I don't know your situation, but hope you have/will find some return to normalcy.

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u/Americans_Are_Weird 13d ago

I've heard the same.

I'm a man, and there have been loads of times I've tried to understand this, but I still can't. I know it's prevalent and I feel like I should be able to understand it, but I feel completely clueless.

Like just for example, take another crime like murder or burglary - while I wouldn't do it, I can fully comprehend the reasons that other people do it.

But sexual assault / rape - I want to be able to understand it so I can properly educate my children about it, but I just can't understand why anyone would ever do it. If it's for sexual gratification, can they not just masturbate or if they need another person involved then find a prostitute? I can't imagine enjoying something like that with someone that's suffering through it.
If it's for power/control - how does SA let them feel that??? When my toddler is having a tantrum and trying to run away from me and I "overpower" them by lifting them up, I don't feel powerful, I feel like a bad dad. If I got into a fight with a similar sized man and won, then yes I'd feel powerful, but not with someone smaller and weaker, what does that prove??

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u/Xwalkingxthexcowx 13d ago

I feel you. I don't get it either.

I had taken a human sexualities class in college where they discussed pedophilia. They said there were two types: those that are straight attracted to children (to which there is no helping that's just how they're wired), and then those that will do it for control -- typically when they feel powerless/ out of control themselves.

The example they gave for the second was a guy losing his job. I couldn't wrap my head around it. "I just got fired but molesting my kid will make me feel like a winner again."

I know it's probably not like that but that's exactly how I thought of it when I first heard that. Regardless, I don't see how someone makes that connection.

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u/sammygirl1331 12d ago

I think the second example you were given is an oversimplification. In the case of a man losing his job, he'd have to have certain personality traits. So if the man has problems with impulse control, problems with authority, is unable to admit to his mistakes those things are going to predispose him to that type of behaviour. Also if they were abused as children themselves that can predispose them to abusive behaviour themselves. In the example you mention it's not so much that they think molesting a child will make them feel like a winner, it's more about misdirected anger. They blame their boss for firing them however they can't hurt their boss because either the boss is unreachable or they fear the legal repercussions so they hurt their child. Why some do this through physical violence and others choose sexual violence I'm not sure. Probably has something to do with subconscious beliefs surrounding sex.

This is my understanding, feel free to correct anything I've said if you have more knowledge on the subject than me.

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u/Beluga_Snuggles 13d ago

I think that this is where the conversations about rape culture are important. Some of it isn't about understanding why they act or think they are entitled to violate other people.

I think we gotta learn to identify and call out all the ways we minimize the bad behaviors that give predators a safe space to victimize people within. They take advantage of a naturaldesire to assume the best of their intentions and try to find any other reason than that they suck.

We also have to get more comfortable in the gray. Whether it is accepting that a person that consent to a threesome but not a gang rape and still call it assault. Or even some of the newer conversations I've seen for kids about how a kid might not hate every part of being sexually abused and be confused - still abuse and assault but easier for some to see if it is a "child" vs. an older teen who is on the edge of legal adulthood.

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u/pksylv 13d ago

i hate to say it but this is why abusers are often those who have experienced abuse themselves. the abuse they suffer warps their relationship with power, and in an effort to escape their own feelings of powerlessness, they abuse those who are vulnerable.

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u/Pumpkinkra 13d ago

And the more disabled a person is, the more likely they are to be SA’ed. Perverts go after opportunity.

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u/TheUndeadBake 13d ago

Yep it’s why we call them predators. Why? Because if you’ve ever watched 1 single nature documentary ever, it’s easy to correlate the behaviour — predators never attack the strong and healthy, they go for the old and weak, the young and vulnerable, or the defenceless sick. A pack of lions will take the opportunity of a herd of zebra in the middle of the females birthing to run in and snatch up foals.

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u/Omnizoom 13d ago

It doesn’t necessarily need to be the weak, it just needs to be the ones unable to fight back

I’m a dude and the woman who forced herself on me knew damn well I couldn’t defend myself because if I did, I’d be the one going to jail for pushing her away or anything. She knew this and she didn’t need a weapon or to overpower me physically, just a threat to ruin my entire life for me to freeze up and not fight back and let it happen.

It doesn’t just need to be physical weakness, they will prey on anything they can get an advantage over

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u/TheUndeadBake 13d ago

That’s still predatory though. My example was the literal root of the word. With how things are these days there’s so many ways a person is weak and vulnerable, it doesn’t matter if they’re physically stronger. It’s still the mentality of “here’s a way to isolate this person”

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u/Omnizoom 13d ago

Yea but many still view the only power imbalance as the physical one

People said if I really didn’t want what happened to me to have happened I could have just pushed her off me or “ran away”.

Some people still think physical strength is the only way to over power someone

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u/CoolCereal20 13d ago

If it was about horniness, they would pay for a prostitute or just use their hand.

Yes its about control, feeling strong, terrifying another human and leaving a mark on them for the rest of her life. Its intentional brutality at the highest degree which is why I think it deserves the death penalty.

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u/Ilikeinvestigating 13d ago

I'm sorry to hear that

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u/MissMarchpane 13d ago

I make all of my own clothes from Victorian patterns. I've had a man follow me for blocks shouting disgusting things at me, within the past year.

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u/Dizzy-Frame-9491 13d ago

I just wish there was an easy fix. Even keeps saying it's not your fault but I wish it was because if I could do something like cover up and be safe that would be great instead of nothing you do can protect you sadly everytime you enter society your going to get catcalled and it can just happen again any time.

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u/fallapart_startagain 13d ago

I'm sorry for your experience, but it's so true. I get harassed wearing baggy clothes, hair scraped back, no makeup etc, doesn't matter. Men who harrass/assault women don't do it because of what women wear (though it's sooo much easier for them to pretend that's the cause!), they do it because they don't see us at equals and want to feel powerful/make us feel small.

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u/heckhammer 13d ago

Society seems so concerned about women dressing to hide their form instead of raising their sons not to be rapists. That seems like it would be much easier, but when the fathers are pigs, you get piglets.

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u/Dizzy-Frame-9491 13d ago

I mean I got raped by the 15 year old my mother was raping (I don't care if he consented he was 15 she was 25 that's statutory rape. Also not excusing what he did) teach your daughters and your son's not to be awful people and to actually be good or at least decent human beings regardless of gender.

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u/aSkeptiKitty 13d ago edited 13d ago

Like does he think it's going to convince women to follow on red dress weirdo ? 

Seriously, if someone was trying to pull this one on me in Paris, I'll advise them to go to Saint Anne Hospital. 

PS: to give a bit of context for non Parisians, Saint Anne Hospital is a famous psychiatric hospital. 

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u/wasraelx 13d ago

It’s his own AI slop yet even in it, the casually dressed woman just looks bewildered about this unhinged weirdo approaching her and dropping her handmaiden bs on her

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u/aSkeptiKitty 13d ago

I hate to praise AI but her facial expression is great. xD 

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u/TheUndeadBake 13d ago

Even the AI was like “all my data says you’re stupid but I’m bound by my code to make this shit for you”

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u/Licher-enjoyer 13d ago

You'd be suprised how many women are like that, it boils down to cultural background. I live in germany and had many Muslim coworkers question why I display my body openly at work. I wear tank tops in summer because it's hot, lol. I had catholic friend question why I have no husband and children if I clearly enjoy working with kids, like i'd have energy to deal with more chaos after work, lol

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u/Medium_Tell8679 13d ago

I can tell its made by someone whose never seen a Mormon. They don't cover their heads.

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u/HistoricalSea5600 13d ago

I grew up in a house with 4 women, and a father that abandoned us. I grew up surrounded by, and thereby appreciating the woman experience in life.

I still will never say I know what it’s like to be a woman. Men like this make the rest of us look bad

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u/Mr_R0mpers 13d ago

It’s sickening. We need to cut off the diseased part of the herd.

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u/Ok_Star_4136 13d ago

Men who see their wives as property, not as people capable of deciding for themselves.

They want to ogle women, but they don't want their own wives to be ogled. Essentially this is what it boils down to.

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u/Sad-Development-4153 13d ago

Also women expressing themselves freely is a threat to their feelings of dominance. They will gladly suffer to see their enemies suffer also.

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u/kittykitty117 13d ago

Some men want to yell "SERIOUSLY!" at women, but don't want their wives to have "SERIOUSLY!" yelled at them.

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u/TheUndeadBake 13d ago

Insecure men who want to be able to make their partners feel like shit, who want to isolate them. Think about it — if women have to cover up, he can put into her head she’s fat, she’s ugly, no one else will love her. And because she has to cover up when going out, how’s she going to get a second opinion from friends or see someone looking at her or get a comment from a passerby about how lovely her hair is etc.

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u/Old-Wolverine-3407 13d ago

"Women need to cover themselves! They're being whrs!" I like to assume they're not stopping them for whatever bible said or rules but to cover their damn temptations or fantasies

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u/Gravyboat44 13d ago

Who probably still went on to give unwanted attention to a woman wearing baggy sweatpants and an oversized sweater just trying to buy groceries.

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u/wasraelx 13d ago

‘The divorce came out of nowhere!!!’

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u/Ok_Star_4136 13d ago

"I did everything right! And by everything, I mean that I worked 9 to 5 every day!"

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u/RustledHard 13d ago

My parents unironically went to a Christian marriage councilor at my mom's insistence. It went pretty much exactly like this. Apparently she thought the guy would tell my dad to stop getting black out drunk every night and seeing other women. Now they just continue hating each other and living miserable lives with no plan to stop.

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u/Aromatic-Laugh-1473 13d ago

1900s ahh post

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u/Straight-Kiwi5173 13d ago

die US Version des Christentums: muskelbepackte Bibeltypen mit halbautomatischen Waffen daheim trÀumen von Handmaids, daher stammt ja auch das Bild

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u/Necessary_Garlic6432 13d ago

That husband is fantasizing about that “biblical counselor” pounding his ass, just like MAGA fantasizes about their daddy Trump

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u/Thoukudides 13d ago

They make AI pictures telling islam gonna force every woman to put a veil, then do that kind of crap... What's the difference then ? I don't see any.

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u/Electronic-Bison6549 13d ago

Well, you see the difference is very clear. When they do it, it's bad because they're doing it. When we do it, it's good because we're doing it.

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u/pixel_pete 13d ago

Fascism is about which group wields power. They're cool with the subjugation of women, they just want women to be controlled by WASP men, not another group they view as lessers.

If they thought fundamentalist Muslims were an important part of achieving their goals they would happily team up. That's what we're seeing with the desperate attempts by the far right to court Catholics, a group American conservatives traditionally and presently despise.

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u/decisi0nsdecisi0ns 13d ago

But they’re telling women what to do in order to keep them ‘safe’.

Totally different.

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u/Time_Raisin4935 13d ago

Short answer 

"It's okay when white religious people do it"

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u/Adventurous_Gas_3257 13d ago

I actually have a theory that Christian men are currently feeling emasculated by Muslim men. Masculinity is often expressed by having power over women. Right-wingers have a lot of the same views as conservative Muslims - which includes the idea of "honour", "chastity", "virginity" etc for "their" women.

My theory is that by veilling women, obsessing over body count, saying women can't have college education or jobs etc they are trying to prove they're just as masculine as the image of Muslim men they created in their mind and they secretly admire.

In fact, I'm convinced that this is why many young right-wing men are converting to Catholicism and immediately try to make it even more patriarchal.

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u/Ok_Star_4136 13d ago

The difference is one is the religion that's foreign and strange while the other is their religion. That's it.

It's just veiled bigotry.

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u/chiree 13d ago

I do love the irony of some governments banning certain religious dress in order to save women from men telling them what to wear... by men telling them what they can't wear.

I think I see pattern here.

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u/Natopor 13d ago

They just don't like words like "islam" "mohammed" and "shawarma law". Everything else is perfect. Just change these words and thats it.

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u/mercuriokazooie 13d ago

The difference is she's a white American therefore "a good Christian"

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u/badgersonice 13d ago

Whoever prompted this video also doesn’t understand modesty— the woman wearing modest clothing isn’t acting modest!  She’s going out of her way to say she’s better than the woman wearing the short skirt!

Lecturing someone that the way you dress is superior, and the way they dress is bad, is not modest.  It is religious pride, pure and simple.

For someone genuinely religious who truly does value modesty, the woman in red should not be an example to anyone.  She’s a busy-body braggart.  She’s the kind of brat Jesus complained about— fake religious people who care more about the outward show of religion than about caring for the poor and sick.   

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u/Flashy_Emergency_263 13d ago

Spot on. The arrogance is amazing. Arrogant religious pride is actually hatefullness masquerading as caring.

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u/LuckyPlaze 13d ago

It’s also making a big ass assumption that a wife dressing sexy in summer attire is somehow “disrespectful” to the husband. That’s some incel religious nutter talk.

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u/badgersonice 13d ago

Oh for sure!

I just think the irony is particularly funny.  Like, within the communities that want more modesty, her behavior is truly immodest.

And further, you’re right:  in the cultures and incel collectives that believe it’s “disrespectful” to a man for a woman to wear sexy clothes in public
 well, they also don’t want women to speak confidently in public or take a leadership role either.  They want their women silent, cowed,  obedient, and in the kitchen, not out speaking up and challenging people in public.  They view femininity as being submissive— they hate the kind of woman who would speak to a stranger in public and express a strong opinion.  A good wife, in their view, is one whose only words are “yes dear!”.

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u/noncommonGoodsense 13d ago

The problem is it doesn’t matter what you are wearing. You can and likely will still get raped if the wrong person decides they are going to. Dress location might mitigate that possibility but it doesn’t stop a rapist by dressing differently or staying away from common areas where those things tend to happen more.

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u/badgersonice 13d ago

Did you respond to the wrong comment? I have never once claimed that how you dress makes a difference in rape.  There is no magic dress code that prevents rape.  Fucking ever.

So can you please quote what it is in my comment that inspired you to respond the way you did to what I said?  You said you have a problem with my comment
 so what specifically did I say that you think is the problem?

Or is yours just a rando bot response?

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u/Silent_Fudge_3978 13d ago

For someone genuinely religious who truly does value modesty, the woman in red should not be an example to anyone. She’s a busy-body braggart.

This is very true, and you're completely correct, however conservative American Christians all disagree with you.

She’s the kind of brat Jesus complained about— fake religious people

Yeah, Jesus wouldn't be too happy with all his followers.

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u/Odd-Sport745 13d ago

Is she supposed to resemble a mormon?

I highly doubt the mormon lady would even talk to you for more than 2 seconds let alone give you a lecture. They are a very inward community m.

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u/MissMarchpane 13d ago

No, Mormons look like Malibu Barbie but with slightly less revealing clothing. At least the mainstream ones do. This woman is some kind of a weird amalgamation maybe based on the Amish or the Mennonites, but only very loosely?

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u/Walnut_Uprising 13d ago

Mormons are an inward community? They proselytize on the subway in my city all the time, their whole thing is sending young people on evangelical "missions", this would be very in character for a Mormon.

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u/Immediate_Song4279 13d ago

I mean dialogue wise, which is over the top and all, yeah generally so, but the skirt and blouse isn't really in the wheelhouse and the hair fabric would be extremely uncommon.

Furthermore, Mormons most commonly police themselves and judge others vicariously from a distance due to Scandinavian nicety culture that came with the immigration, at least in the bubble. It's a very judgy culture, but mostly passively aggressively so.

Randomly calling her Mormon is, and I say this as a brethren-critical atheist formon, a bit odd.

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u/theSecond_Wave 13d ago

I thought she was supposed to resemble Ofglen from the Handmaids Tale.

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u/Electronic_Quote399 13d ago

They go around knocking doors where I'm from

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u/Disaster-Bee 13d ago

She looks like she's dressed in more Mennonite garb than anything. I live near an area with a lot of Mormons, and they do not dress like that.

I think you might be thinking of the Amish and Mennonites. They are pretty closed communities that just ignore outsiders they don't approve of.

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u/Claire_De_Lunatic 13d ago

Hell fuckin no they aren't lmao

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u/badgersonice 13d ago

Honestly, I don’t even know.  Like, I don’t recognize the specific head covering.  Could be Amish or Mennonite or Quiverful or I dunno? 

But you’re right, they’re most fairly insular. And they don’t usually want “their women” out socializing with strangers.   

Although Mormons have to do some kind of mission evangelism thing I think 
 but it might be only the men?

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u/AardvarkusMaximus 13d ago

What? I always thought there was a need to prove we are christian and went to specific places by regular means of travel! I even bought items in in major cathedral's gift shop to prove this and fund Jesus beliefs.

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u/Arcoon_Effox 13d ago

Yeah, everyone knows that Mormons would never overtly say that sort of thing to some stranger they see on the street. They're trained from infancy to be way more passive-aggressive than that.

No, no; they'd silently judge the lady and think all of those things to themselves, and then maybe gossip about it at the next Relief Society meeting, but they'd never say it out loud in public.

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u/Agitated_Tax_payer 13d ago

All I saw was someone with freedom and the other constraint.

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u/NecessaryIntrinsic 13d ago

I can't tell if this was meant to make Mormons look stupid or to promote modesty. It seems to be missing any point

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u/Afraid-Flatworm-422 13d ago

Funny how i find women in red more attractive, yet her personality is gigantic turn off. The "sexy" lady seems like open minded fun person, with clear logic why she wear open clothes. Being confident is sexy in its own.

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u/Low-Tough-3743 13d ago

I dress pretty modestly, baggy jeans, oversized t-shirts and men's flannel. It hasn't stopped men from paying me unwanted attention though. I've gotten everything from musing about what's hidden underneath, to expressions of disappointment because "I should be in a sundress" (what's with men's obsession with sundresses?) to disgust for my complete disregard of femininity. It doesn't matter what I wear, they will always have something to say about it. 

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u/glitterfamine 13d ago

I've gotten "why don't you wear jewellery or anything nice" ahaha

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u/TheUndeadBake 13d ago

Let’s not forget “smile”. I turned around and said “I’ve just come from the vets putting my fucking cat down, you twat” (because I had)

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u/pigeonight 13d ago

Hah! A few weeks ago I was literally sitting on a park bench, head in my hands, trying to process the news that my father has fronto temporal dementia. Just the picture of abject misery and thousand yard stare. 

A guy comes up to me from a whole pack of straight men in their twenties and goes “Hey baby girl! Come have fun with us!” 

I don’t even look at him or anything, and he continues to pester me until he leaves but afterward I had a little chuckle. Like you can always count on men to be men. It never even crosses their minds that a woman could have a whole internal life, instead of springing up when prompted like a video game npc.

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u/TheUndeadBake 13d ago

Oh god especially if you’ve even got big chunky headphones on + look miserable. Like hmmmmmmmmm maybe this person wants to not interact? Naaaaah

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u/IhasCandies 13d ago

In my experience in the real world, women that dress down/more “modestly” are harassed far more than women that are scantily clad. Men are intimidated by women being scantily clad, but they perceive weakness and exploitability in a modestly dressed woman.

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u/Old-Wolverine-3407 13d ago

How many times we need to explain that it's their fault and not really ours?

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u/Gravyboat44 13d ago

My old job uniform from when I worked at a gas station used to be a baggy, bright green polo top, stretched out from use and probably covered in a couple splotches of soda or something. I never wore makeup, always had my hair back in a low pony tail, and wore basic straight pants that always had dirt from the floor on them.

Besides all the basic complements, I can off the top of my head remember the time a local man asked if I had a boyfriend and asked if I could ever cheat on him. When I said no, he asked "why not, it could be fun". And when I turned him down again he later payed with a dollar that said "fuck off bitch" in bright green lettering (still don't know if it was coincidental or not)

Then I can also tell you about the two other times, wedding ring on finger that I got asked out, explained that I was married, and got the response "So?".

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u/RosebushRaven 13d ago

what’s with men’s obsession with sundresses?

Easy access.

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u/ScarletBothrium 13d ago

That’s the short of it. I saw a video of a guy talking about sundresses in the most romanticized way and I’m like that’s a really long-winded way to say easy access.

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u/Iamakitestring 13d ago

For strangers the sundress comment is seriously gross. I asked my bf once, he likes em too, he said it's because he thinks you typically wouldn't wear underwear with them and it's "easy access" where you could just lift the dress and lower it and no one would know.

FYI this was a lewd conversation we had together involving the two of us, he would never perve on women and is actually shocked when his sister or I talk in front of him about what we deal with. He's very supportive. This was just his thinking about me and I figured it makes sense for tbe obsession as a whole.

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u/Winter-Bed5879 13d ago

Sundresses are very cute, that's all. 

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u/Traditional-Emu-6344 13d ago

Because Christians love a story where they’re the victim and all they want to do is tell everyone else they’re wrong.

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u/Version_Two 13d ago

I'm just trying to save you! Surrender your life!!

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u/Naive_Remote9813 13d ago

Jesus is trying to save us from what he's going to do to us if we don't let him save us.

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u/Same_Eye6762 13d ago

I went to church 2 weeks ago, my friend invited cuz she was leading worship that day

I witnessed a state of mass psychosis, twitching, crying, kneeling, pacing back and forth, heaving, SPEAKING IN TONGUES, glorifying suffering

A grown man was crying in a dark corner for an hour after

Man I think I'm good, I'm gonna pass

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u/norakb123 13d ago

And yet the one in the shorts is clearly the victim here. The one harassing on the street is the modest Christian.

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u/Fed_Deez_Nutz 13d ago

Yeah, she comes off as way more reasonable and rational.

Mind your business modest lady, mind your business.

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u/Immediate-Song6861 13d ago

That's the whole stick

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u/Upset-Nose-4016 13d ago

Men who are catcalling won't dissapear simply because you wear something "modest". All they want is to have power over someone they deem weaker and vulnerable. You can wrap yourself in burqa and still risk sexual harassment because clothes don't matter to such people

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u/talkmemetome 13d ago

At first it's the boobs, then it's the ankles, then it's the shape, then it's the eyes, then it's the mere presence, then it's the knowledge of the existence of a woman's body. They are in every religion, in every culture.

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u/DoorSweet6099 13d ago

I was thinking that dressing as modestly as this Christian woman in this video can draw all sorts of unwanted attention. Modesty can also be read as weakness in some sexual predators minds.

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u/Senior-Baseball-9838 13d ago

Girls get catcalled too and they’re dress as children. Wearing school uniforms.

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u/Sad-Substance-7554 13d ago

I stopped getting catcalled when I became an adult. They really do only want you when you’re 17

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u/Old-Wolverine-3407 13d ago

That's the point yet many still don't understand in this year of 2026 and they would still blame the women or the victim.

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u/Ok_Application_5802 13d ago

It's true. I've been catcalled in middle school. And I was wearing my school uniform.

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u/dark90smagic 13d ago edited 13d ago

Why is this Lil House on the Prairie woman hanging around all these people if all she’s going to do is pass judgment and feign it as concern? Go pray in a fucking log cabin and read your Book of Mormon by candlelight I guess, who ever prompts these has some serious issues. Like, you don’t like seeing hot women?

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u/HighlandsBen 13d ago

"I'm going to give this stranger unwanted attention to teach her about how to avoid unwanted attention."

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u/MostExtremeHyperbole 13d ago

Many years ago, there was a campaign showing what people were wearing when they were assaulted, none of them were 'sexy' clothes, https://sbaproject.org/what-were-you-wearing/

It made me cry when I first saw it because there is a lot of children's clothes.

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u/Sexisthunter 13d ago

She’s trying to be an example to the hoes and bring them to the light of the lort

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u/dark90smagic 13d ago

It’s so weird the light of the lord is dependent upon women’s clothing choices. As if the almighty creator of the universe cares.

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u/TheUndeadBake 13d ago

Which he doesn’t lol. He even has a line about how if men are looking at women lustfully, he should tear out the offending eyeball.

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u/Sexisthunter 13d ago

My mom spent my whole childhood trying to tell me that. Now I dress like a hoe and she still treats everyone around her like garbage

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u/RustyShacklefrog 13d ago

“Well, what was she wearing?” Type of energy coming from this one. Gross victim blaming scum

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u/Ambiguous-Nyx 13d ago

Fuh naw she rocks that outfit. Who the hell prompted this

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u/ghostbirdd 13d ago

I was gonna say. If they wanted to convince women to dress more modestly then I don’t know why they made the “bad wife” a smokeshow

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u/wasraelx 13d ago

And as a conventionally attractive woman in my late twenties, nobody tries to hit on you more than husbands of the women they force to be modest.

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u/saigon2010 13d ago

I watched a YouTube video recently where this woman made 4 profiles on one of the dating apps, each with custom photos to portray 4 different women, and the "traditional girl" by a long shot got the creepiest, most misogynistic messages out of any of them

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u/wasraelx 13d ago edited 13d ago

It just fully depends on the area.

I used to get catcalled as a hijabi as much as I do without. At 17 the same amount as at 27.

Which demographic of women gets harassed the most depends completely on where in the world you are. Conservative men hate that they want to fuck you and youd never speak to them. Modest women get harassed because men can’t stand that they choose not to show their body, and many assume they’ll be easier to groom.

Quite simply, the problem isn’t women and what we wear.

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u/gameinggod21 13d ago

Lonely misogynistic men ig

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u/BlueFantasyZ 13d ago

My husband doesn't "let" me do anything, because he's my partner, not my owner.

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u/Minute-Shine6354 13d ago

Of course.

It's what cringes me of these videos, when they talk about the husband letting something or liking something.

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u/ToWelie89 13d ago

Why are Conservative Christians always fear mongering about Muslims and sharia? If anything a lot of Christians would probably agree with a lot of the sharia laws, they use the same rhetoric and logic. If sharia didn't have a connection to Islam a lot of Christians would embrace it

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u/Sad-Development-4153 13d ago

It makes sense when you realize it's accusations in the mirror.

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u/SunshotDestiny 13d ago

That is exactly it. They "don't agree" with a different religion", but in reality it's the same conservative ideas. One just control over their society and culture, and the other is desperate to get that sort of control.

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u/PolicyWonka 13d ago

Meanwhile, those same people will say that the United States is founded on Christian religious law and we must follow Christian religious codes and morals derived from the Bible.

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u/cutesybluesocks 13d ago

They just want to be the ones in control, that’s literally it.

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u/Toy_Story_2_on_PS1 13d ago

I love this genre of conservative slop content where the thing being depicted is meant to be abhorrent but everyone reacting is going “fuck yea”

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u/Hammer_the_Red2 13d ago

These christofascists claim to be so afraid of Sharia Law being imposed on Americans while at the same time try to impose their own version of theocratic law in the US.

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u/xDeviousDieselx 13d ago

No shit, and it’s so fucking insane

But there’s no limit to the Larp they literally cannot see the blatant hypocrisy they’re too worried about Trump’s dick in their mouth and how much they love it these days

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u/Tour_True 13d ago edited 13d ago

I’d dress and look like her too. An obvious incel made this slop to show us their misogyny. Slop as well the body shaming it promotes.

Edit: I noticed I’ve pissed off a lot of unfuckable incels. They can get mad. There’s a block button and they’re outing themselves as the incels they are and being mad that pretty women don’t want to fuck their hobo looking angry drama queen snowflake selves.

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u/Seven_o_clock777 13d ago

Like, if you got it, flaunt it!

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u/Tour_True 13d ago edited 13d ago

Agreed. Also many earned it to flaunt it. I am after those kind of goals in myself and it’s an extremely healthy lifestyle working out and eating good food and you learn what colours and clothes are best for your body shape and skin. I do it because I love me and this stuff is part of my own expression and art not for me to care about creepy men who hate women because they aren’t interested in unfuckable men and my body is not theirs to control but my own. If they’re insecure that’s on them. They could always work to look as good to be worth it but their gross attitudes are probably the biggest means to drive me or any woman away.

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u/Plastic-Wear-3576 13d ago

I feel the same. Granted, being a dude affords me to more comfortably strut my stuff without people being weird.

But I worked for my ass. I'm gonna wear pants that showcase it. If people look, good for them.

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u/Valten78 13d ago

How is this any different to fundamentalists in the middle east who want to clad women in Burkas?

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u/MostExtremeHyperbole 13d ago

Still doesn't prevent rape at all lol.

Mormon women are sexually assaulted at much higher rates than the general public because their weird ass insular communities are rapey.

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u/TheUndeadBake 13d ago

Aaah but you see they go by the toddler logic of “if I can’t see that the husband beat this woman black and blue because she’s completely hidden, that means it doesn’t happen” and the same is extended to rape and assault and pedophilia. As long as it doesn’t reach the ears of the others, it doesn’t happen

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u/Ryaniseplin 13d ago

so they must be completely fine when they see a woman wearing a hijab

because that woman is just being respectful to her husband

they definitely wouldn't freak out if they saw that right

seriously tho the modesty culture fucks are the reason our society is like this, it is 100% the person who is committing sexual harassment for committing the sexual harassment, the amount of victim blaming is insane

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u/LunarDogeBoy 13d ago

Why she dresses like that? It's the same reason why a man mows his lawn neatly or drives a fancy car. Because they like flaunting what they got and feel sexy. It doesnt mean they want to be approached by some freak.

You can tell the loser who generated this is on the mormon's side because the other woman didnt clap back and destroyher logic. Do you refrain from painting your house because you dont want people to be jelaous of how nice it looks? Burglars dont break into dilapitated shitholes so why dont you make your house look like a crack den?

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u/Thepuppeteer777777 13d ago

Yes yes I don't know how to crop. Get over it

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u/RamJamR 13d ago

Mormons don't typically dress like that. Nothing about the religion demands a woman dress like it's the 1800s. For the most part, anyone mormon dresses pretty unremarkably from anyone else.

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u/MissMarchpane 13d ago

This doesn't look like it's the 1800s, even. It looks like maybe an outfit from anytime between the 1970s and the present. Clothing from the 1800 was generally much more fun than that (because it wasn't being worn for some kind of religious reason – it was just what people were, and they incorporated self-expression into their everyday outfits).

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u/MaikeHF 13d ago

True. They’re more likely to have “work done” than dress like that.

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u/stackens 13d ago

This is one of the worst aspects of generative AI.

Bigots and reactionaries irrationally fear all sorts of things and people, and now they can generate AI videos illustrating their delusions in videos that (for a certain subset of the population) are indistinguishable from reality. Like at the very least they used to have to contend with the fact that there was no evidence for their delusions. Now they can make their fantasies "real" (again, only for a certain subset who are gullible/dumb/old enough, for now)

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u/wasraelx 13d ago edited 13d ago

‘Your husband lets you out like that’ 💀 Dear AI lady, women these days don’t tend to marry men who see them as literal dogs

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u/Snoo_75138 13d ago

Interesting that the religious solution to women being targeted is always "dress up more and behave" and never to actually discipline and TEACH the men to be moral.

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u/Old-Wolverine-3407 13d ago

Funny how religous always picture themselves as "conservatives" yet they have the worst and dirtiest mindset

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u/TheMiamiMutilator420 13d ago

I love how the "Unmodest" girl doesn't respond once and just has a confused look the whole time lmfao the immediate implication is she's gonna completely ignore everything that dumbass just said 😭

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u/MissMarchpane 13d ago

I will say, that woman isn't Mormon necessarily. She's not really anything in particular; I think they're going for an amalgamation of different very conservative Christian sects like Amish or Mennonite and coming out with a result that's basically none of the above. If she were mainstream Mormon, she would have a fake tan, bleached hair, tons of fillers, and she would be wearing the skimpiest thing she could get away with while still covering her religious underwear.

As for the actual point of the video
 As someone who wears pretty much exclusively long sleeves and long skirts (not for religious reasons; I just prefer them), I can say that you get cat called no matter what you're wearing. Because it's not about anything the victim does or doesn't do; it's about control and shitty men trying to assert dominance.

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u/Send_me_UR_Cocks 13d ago

Hi, her husband here. I do not think it is disrespectful as I not only enjoy the attractiveness of my wife, but I also want her to be confortable and do what she enjoys. If a man catcalls her, she is not the problem. The man is. He is coveting his neighbors wife and I'm pretty sure it's your obligation to stone him or some shit, I dunno I didn't read the Bible.

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u/Spiritual_Smell4744 13d ago

Why does anything the non religious do impact the religious?

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u/Flashy_Emergency_263 13d ago

"You're breaking rules I have to follow (am afraid to not follow). How dare you?!? Follow the rules I follow or you are wrong, wrong, wrong!"

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u/Jaded-Significance86 13d ago

Tragically I must reference this exhibit once again

It does not matter what you are wearing. A rapist is gonna rape

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u/Cha-Car 13d ago

One of many AI tells - no New York City woman would react so calmly if a rando confronted them about their outfit and their husband.

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u/Minute-Shine6354 13d ago

Here comes Abby again giving unsolicited opinions.

Unwanted attention is what she does.

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u/skylar274 13d ago

please don’t crucify me if i’m wrong
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but are you quoting dance moms?

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u/GODZILLA-Plays-A-DOD 13d ago

My wife only wears a parka, a ski mask, a beanie, and a chemical respirator in the summer to defend and respect my modesty or whatever.

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u/Rich_Confusion3996 13d ago

There is a museum of what were they wearing that shows the actual cloths of rape victims showing what the wore when they were raped.

It us filled with everything from mini skirt to full burka to little kids pj's.

All to prove that what they were wearing was never a real factor in them getting raped.

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u/Atomic-Pilot2707 13d ago

These tradwives won’t be happy until every woman is in full black burkas

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u/outdatedelementz 13d ago

Because their faith is weak and dependent on the choices and actions of others rather than their own beliefs. To the point that their “belief system” is really just a set of rules meant to control people.

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u/Box-O-Kittenz 13d ago

Some men genuinely believe that they're incapable of controlling themselves, and so put the burden on women to not "tempt" them.

I've said it before, it's still true: there's no greater misandrist than a conservative man.

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u/Gravyboat44 13d ago

And then the crude, un-modest woman went on to think deeply about her actions and how she presents herself, and went right to the shop and bought herself a new wardrobe much less like that of a common street harlot, and much more like that of a well put-together housewife. And almost immediately she caught the eye of a lovely gentleman, who respectfully courted her heart for many moons, before she happily settled down, had a big, traditional wedding, and had 6 beautiful children. She now goes around telling other women how fulfilled and happy she is now that she has discovered a woman's true calling as caregiver to her faithful husband and amazing children.

...nah just kidding. She called the "more modest" woman a bitch and went on about her day.

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u/Ronin_501 13d ago

Random dude: "seriously?" Lmao đŸ€Ł

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u/Various_Winner_1181 13d ago

AI garbage. Misogynists love fantasizing about women getting their “comeuppance” over stupid shit all the time.

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u/WinnieGraves 13d ago

The Abrahamites are really really really fuckin WEIRD. Really glad this is going to contribute to us failing the Great Filter. You want to know why we'll never ever meet any other civilization, it's because we are tearing our world apart in the name of profit. it was a good run y'all.

https://giphy.com/gifs/zYuJ20NlndPPO

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u/AJ_Topp_Up 13d ago

How is that even a Mormon woman? Mormon women don't even dress like that. Maybe more Mennonite than anything.

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u/Imaginary_Box8688 13d ago

The person dressed oddly is the woman in glasses, ironically she's the one who stands out and thus calls attention to herself.

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u/TomSmith113 13d ago

As if conventionally attractive women don't get unwanted attention regardless of what they're wearing, and as if men shouldn't fucking control themselves instead.

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u/lookatthecam 13d ago

None of her damn business. People should be able to walk around naked and not be assaulted. I'm not suggesting people do that but blaming the victim is narcissism.

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u/LabiaMinoraLover 12d ago

There is a comfortable classy stylish middle ground between Amish-burqa and hooker hoochie momma drip...

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u/Imaginary-Paint-9924 13d ago

What handmaiden tale is this? The prequal?

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u/xOleander 13d ago

The likelihood that the person that generated/made this hates Muslims (and by proxy make fun of how the women are treated) is about 99.99999%

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u/mac1qc 13d ago

What shitty conservative waste of water this propaganda is!

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u/sysaphiswaits 13d ago

She’s not Mormon. I mean I know she doesn’t exist, but this isn’t Mormon culture.

She might be Orthodox Jewish. But, either way, there is no way they would call someone out like this, and are fairly unlikely to care that much.

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u/biggurllover88 13d ago

So a white Mormon woman dress like that its modesty. And woman should follow. However if a Muslim woman dress like that, she is oppressed, they trying to convert or invade, and all the other bullshit. Really, Democrat or Republican, both are shit.

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u/Dull-Law3229 13d ago

What mormon woman dresses like that? 

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u/eastcoastjon 13d ago

Do you see the correlation between covering up to not temp men and excusing rape?

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u/RailgunRP 13d ago

This face says it all: "Is that b**ch really that stupid?" she thought as the Moron Mormon left.

(Also, Handmaid's tale aah outfit)

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u/Timely-Youth-9074 13d ago

I get catcalled and followed a whole lot more dressed covered up vs the few times I wore shorts or a short skirt.

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u/Much-Hamster-8956 13d ago

If my husband thinks he has to ALLOW me to go outside in a certain outfit he clearly has no respect for me at all and he will no longer be my husband.

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u/Hot-Seesaw-7851 13d ago

lmao where i grew up we had an Amish community near by and men would catcall the Amish women when they'd walk/ride through. What a load of bullshit. Creepy men will catcall any woman regardless of how they dress.

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u/Soaring_Sky 13d ago

The ”modest” girl draws more attention dressing up like a rural amish person in a very urban environment.

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u/PrincessDeMissouri 13d ago

And then they start making out.

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u/Current_Analysis_104 13d ago

Why is the Mormon woman in the city and off her cloister, or compound, or whatever they call it?

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u/rai_ash786 13d ago

okay i'm saying this as a girl who was covered up in a denim jacket over a shirt and wearing full pants at 12 years old and i STILL got catcalled and whistled at by some older guys at my middle school.

a man totally prompted this to the AI.

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u/sahprincess 13d ago

Right there are only two options for women: the two polar ends

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u/PsycheAsHell 13d ago

Most women know it literally doesn't matter what you wear. Creepy men will still creep. I was 14 and running in athletic wear meant for a girl my age, and I still got catcalled, and I literally ran home as fast as possible in tears, in fear.

Cis women, trans women, Muslim women, Christian women, female sex workers, older women, underage girls, etc. all experience harassment because creepy men target anyone they perceive as female, regardless of how covered up or not that woman or girl is.

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u/Warm_Safety_9550 12d ago

Does a man also have to dress like he’s in a wagon train headed to the undrinkable waters of the Great Salt Lake?

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u/Drejkonis 12d ago

Thats not a mormon, shes is a handmaid from handmaid's tale. Shes the victim in this situation. She is a prisoner, whats worse is that she doesnt know that she is a prisoner, she even defends the tactics that are used to imprison her.

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u/sweetafonion 12d ago

I love the guy catcalling ”seriously!”