r/audiophile • • 18h ago

Discussion this is my rew measurements is this fixable with eq or no?

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measured with umik 1. Evo 5.3 + pb1000 pro , small room, 3.54m x 3.12m 2.62 height no treatment.

the 51 hz peak still persist when measuring the mains and the sub individually. is this room mode, anything i can do to make it better? or the peak is too high to tame and cutting it may cause some clipping? should i make a filter and apply it to my wiim mini. or this listening room is a lost cause?

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u/TurtlePaul 15h ago

This is what EQ is best at. A big 12 dB cut at 51 hz, a big 14 dB cut at 22 hz and a wide shallow 3 dB boost from 75-125 hz should fix must of your room issues. Play with the Q-factor values or let the machine optimize it. The boominess will be gone and bass will have more texture.

What is the crossover frequency? Since 95% of the readings below 80 hz are above the line, it could help to turn the sub down by 7 dB or so.

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u/Informal-Concept9416 14h ago

ohh now that u mentioned,, i set it at 50hz, evo's start to roll of around 43hz so i set xover on my sub at 50hz,,, that might be what causing the peak, is 12db cut or 14 db cut safe? or not gonna cause aggressive equing that can cause distortion or clipping? or this is fine? thanks

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u/meato1 13h ago

Cutting with EQ cannot cause distortion. They said you have the best case for EQ because literally all you have are peaks, so all you need to add are cuts in EQ. If you had to use boosts, then you could possibly be introducing distortion.

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u/fenderputty 12h ago

Boosting bass does add distortion, but basically that seem accepted in the subbass frequencies to some extent. We are less way sensitive to distortion below like 50hz. Which is why you’ll see subs with various “bass modes” that boost lower end.

What you DO lose a lot of is output (if the sub if sealed). Boosting a ported sub below port tuning frequency is asking for trouble though. Distortion could be the least of someone issues heh.

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u/jonnybruno SF Sonetto V G2, Cinema 50, GFA 555mk2, SB2k pro 12h ago

Cut bass a little less than that guy said. Most people don't like bass at flat. 6 or so db at the bottom that trails back towards neutral. His advice was basically all great though.

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u/lordehumo 11h ago

Looks like you are measuring L/R together. You will want to measure them independently from the listening position at ear height with the correct mic calibration file.

Then EQ and remeasure separately again and finally together to confirm you achieved your goal. Speaker interactions when playing together can then be accounted for in final tweaks.

Sounds daunting at first but you get faster with practice and your efforts will be rewarded.

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u/mostate16 10h ago

This is a fantastic starting point. I wish my room was this easy :) eq to kill those peaks and you’re basically done

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u/ParfaitSwimming8816 PSB Imagine XB 12h ago

Something I overlooked: since you have a subwoofer, check its phase, because it might be adding to the signal. The 20 Hz figure isn't a real room response; it's more like the in-phase sum of the limited response your speakers can achieve in that range, plus the subwoofer's contribution. That way, since they're in phase, the amplitudes add up.

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u/Informal-Concept9416 11h ago

Thanks ... Will tinker a bit more... love to hear your opinion about the filter that i can apply to help the curve.

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u/Ok-Tomorrow-6032 10h ago

this is a really good curve. i found that cutting peaks like that will not always sound good i gues halvin them with eq would be great. you want to mesure your speakers playing toether for the curve under ~200hz and indipendently for above, but it looks really good abive 200 inwoule change anything about that rbh. you are lucky this is looking fantastic allready

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u/perm55 17h ago

ANYTHING is fixable with enough EQ and enough dollars

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u/Compgeak 11h ago

I have a laptop and a UMIK-1. How do I EQ my life?

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u/perm55 10h ago

I’m an audio engineer, not a psychiatrist

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u/lowbass4u 14h ago

Yes, very easily fixable.

Stop measuring and start listening to your music and not your gear.

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u/Informal-Concept9416 14h ago

thats whaat i did at first, but notice some boomy ness ,, i tried to ignore it to enjoy my gear, but the boomyness takees over the whole sound, so trried to measured it and this is what i got.... the room cant be treated so equing might be a way to go,, thanks

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u/lowbass4u 14h ago

Move your sub around the room. A good sub will produce bass but you should not be able to pinpoint where the bass is coming from.