r/baduk • • 4d ago

scoring question Question about points

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I have a question about this exercise. The answer says that this move is worth 6 points, but I only count 4.

If white plays here, the group is obviously alive, made 1 capture and has 5 points of territory, so 6 points in total. If black plays here, it's a seki and the left part of the corner is neutral territory, but the two inside liberties on the right should be considered white territory isn't it ? So 2 points for white, and a difference in outcome of 4 points.

Am i wrong for considering the inside liberties of a group in seki as points ?

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u/kasumi-himawari 19 kyu 4d ago

When would liberties count as points? Territory counts as points, not liberties. Neither of those is an eye, so under Japanese scoring rules, they would be dame. Under Chinese scoring rules, if white filled both in, black could capture the entire group by making a dead shape inside white’s territory.

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u/Andeol57 2 dan 3d ago

Under Chinese scoring, those are intersections surrounded by living white stones, so they are points. The concept of eye does not appear anywhere in the rules. It's just a thinking shortcut.