r/baduk • • 4d ago

scoring question Question about points

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I have a question about this exercise. The answer says that this move is worth 6 points, but I only count 4.

If white plays here, the group is obviously alive, made 1 capture and has 5 points of territory, so 6 points in total. If black plays here, it's a seki and the left part of the corner is neutral territory, but the two inside liberties on the right should be considered white territory isn't it ? So 2 points for white, and a difference in outcome of 4 points.

Am i wrong for considering the inside liberties of a group in seki as points ?

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u/petete83 3 dan 4d ago

With chinese rules it's still 6 points. The shared neutral points count as ½ point for each color.

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u/lartich 4d ago

Wouldn't that still make 4 points ? The shared point on neutral points would change the score from 2W-0B to 3W-1B so same score difference

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u/petete83 3 dan 4d ago

If w captures there are 15 points for w. If b extends it's 12w 3b. w+15 vs w+9, the difference is still 6.

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u/PotentialDoor1608 3d ago

It looks like in this case, white can fill one of the two neutral (eye) points with a stone. Does that make a difference?

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u/petete83 3 dan 3d ago edited 3d ago

It can fill one of the "eyes" but those count as territory anyway with Chinese rules.

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u/RedeNElla 3d ago

Check liberties. The neutral points are self Atari if played

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u/PotentialDoor1608 3d ago

You can play one of the two half eyes and it's still a seki.

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u/RedeNElla 3d ago

Those aren't neutral though