r/bioinformatics • u/mapachito_chatarrero • 10d ago
other Weird R reference
Hi,
A paper I'm coauthoring (but I'm not the main writer) has been approved and I was doing some final checks before publication. Then I realized that, somehow, we had a weird reference to R:
Wilson A, Norden N. The R Project for Statistical Computing The R Project for Statistical Computing. URL Http//Www r-Project Org/254 2015;3:1–9.
Clearly, this is not R's preferred citation (and the one I added to the word document)
R Core Team (2026). _R: A Language and Environment for Statistical Computing_.
R Foundation for Statistical Computing, Vienna, Austria. https://www.R-project.org/.
Checking back previous versions of the document, this reference change happened somewhere between November 2025 and January 2026. I don't know how or why my coauthor's Mendeley or Copilot sharted this reference.
However, digging deeper into this, it seems to be a pretty common issue, with plenty of papers using that citation, going back at least to 2022:
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Wilson+A%22+%22Norden+N%22
Yet, what's more, there are no Wilson nor Norden among R's contributors: https://www.r-project.org/contributors.html
What the hell is this reference, and why does it show up in reference managers?
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u/millig 10d ago
Strange mystery! I have no idea where it comes from but I found a CV for an Adam Wilson (https://yale.academia.edu/AdamWilson/CurriculumVitae) that has this under the Conference presentations, seminars, & posters heading:
- Wilson, A. M., N. Norden. (2008, March). The R Project for Statistical Computing: Don’t be scared! Presentation at the University of Connecticut Ecology and Evolutionary Biology Graduate Student Symposium.
No idea why it would have been changed to 2015 at some point or why the subtitle was dropped and turned into the definitive R citation though! Maybe an AI hallucination that was picked up by other AIs being used to write papers? Also strange where the ghost URL to the R-Project website came from!
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u/CommonFiveLinedSkink 10d ago
WHATTT? My department's grad symposium somehow caused this citation ghost??
Y'all our grad symposium high key slaps, though, so I say just cite this, too, there's no reason to be scared.
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u/wateronthebrain 10d ago
I don't really understand why you'd reference a programming language. Would you reference Python or C? To me it feels like referencing ANOVA or something.
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u/dr-tectonic 9d ago
The motivation is two-fold: to make the research fully reproducible, by giving the reader all the information about the methods you used, including the exact implementation, and to treat data and software as first-class research products, on par with publications, worthy of citation, not just acknowledgement.
For the former, you should cite any specialized packages or libraries you used; the difference between R and C/Python is that in R, a lot of important methods are implemented in the core of the language.
How important you think the latter is varies by discipline, but there are many fields where software and datasets are absolutely vital contributions to the scientific enterprise, and the community has come to realize that you don't want to make people choose between making those contributions and furthering their careers by only counting journal articles in your performance metrics.
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u/sunoukong 9d ago
Adding to the other replies, it might be helpful for the team maintaining the language to show the "impact" of their work to secure grant funding and whatnot. Citations are a way to provide that, and it has no cost for authors so why not support them that way.
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u/marmotshoes BSc | Industry 9d ago
At my company we cite the version of R and all packages used for analysis. This is to ensure reproducibility for critics and supporters alike.
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u/FalconX88 9d ago
some fields are weird like that, they reference standard methods that are around for decades and part of textbooks, or software like that.
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u/shadowyams PhD | Academia 10d ago
I was going to suggest AI hallucination, but according to a ChatGPT search, this error dates back to at least 2017 from this Masters thesis:
pdf link at: https://run.unl.pt/server/api/core/bitstreams/772cd871-9e1a-4e0c-885f-ea351f54bd04/content?utm_source=chatgpt.com
I downloaded and verified that ref 30 is this mangled R citation:
So probably some corrupted citation manager entry a decade ago that has gotten propagated into a ton of papers.