r/boeing • • Apr 06 '22

Employment Question Thread (APR - JUN 2022)

Note: Please specify which site/State/Country you are working in, or intend to work in.

This is a safe place to ask any question related to Boeing employment. It is focused on, but not limited to, employment life question, application related questions, and new hire questions for full time, part time, internship, and contracting individuals. This is not a thread to express personal complaints about your experience with the Company and any account that leaves a comment that can be interpreted as such will be permabanned.

We ask that you do some research on your own, as Boeing is such a large entity that your experience may not be the same as another. Generally, your best resource for most common question are going to be your own Manager.

Frequently Asked Questions:

Q. How soon do you hear back after an interview?
A. Can range anywhere from the next day to a month. If you have not heard back within a week, it does not hurt to request a follow up via e-mail.
Q. What is the dress code in the office?
A. Team dependent but majority of office workers are in business casual. It is safer to dress up on your first day so you can verify the proper attire to wear from then on.
Q. What do they ask during the job interview?
A. It is practically policy for interviews to follow the STAR format. There are many examples on Google on this format and how you should answer the question.
Q. I smoke weed. Do I have to get drug tested if I apply? Are there random drug tests?
A. One of the process during the initial contingencies is a drug test. Testing positive for THC can be a disqualifying condition. The Company may do random drug test, but no sub member has really seen it happen. If you are involved in a workplace accident, you will be subjected to a drug test as per policy. Active marijuana use will also limit you from obtaining a Security Clearance. This is important as most defense positions require the applicant to be eligible for a Security Clearance.
Q. How does internal transfer work?
A. Internal transfer is done through finding requisitions posted within our internal website, Worklife. These are requisitions made looking for internal candidates. You can improve the odds if you already know the Manager that is submitting the requisition. Your current manager is not involved in the process unless you choose to request for their assistance. However, your salary negotiation will be based on your current pay.

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u/Careful-Lifeguard-25 Jul 26 '22

Hello everyone!!

I received an offer a couple of weeks ago and my HireRight background report came back a week ago. I still haven’t heard anything from Boeing but yesterday the position I applied for (it has been closed since my interview) is open again. I am freaking out!

Is that common? Do they hire more than one employee per job posting?

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u/Difficult-Dog-3349 Jul 22 '22

Hey friends, prescreen assessment for entry level design engineer. I'm a physics major and wondering what type of questions I should prepare myself for.

Math, coding, engineering questions? Any help is greatly appreciated thanks!!

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u/EDScheumann Jul 07 '22

Hello all,

I am wondering if anyone has any information on what the prescreen assessment through Hirevue entails? I was invited to complete this for two separate entry level engineering positions that I applied to and am not sure if I should expect to record myself answering interview style questions or take an actual skill-based assessment. The email I received has a linked button to "take the assessment," but the link prior refers me to "learn more about your prescreen assessment," which then takes me to Hirevue's website where it describes the "Hireview on demand interview". So my question is should I expect to record myself answering general questions or should I prepare for more of an assessment of my skills? This is my first email received which has signified being further considered for the positions. Has anyone recently completed a prescreening similar to what I described?

Thanks for any and all help!

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u/Difficult-Dog-3349 Jul 22 '22

Hey sorry no one got back to you. How was the assessment? I'm going to take one for a Entry Design Engineer. Is it math, coding, engineering questions?

Thanks in advance for any help

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u/EDScheumann Jul 22 '22

It ended up being five video response questions, basically all about soft skills/experiences where you explained your actions. I don't remember them all, but one question was "talk about a time you had to follow a strict set of rules/regulations and what was the outcome?" Another one asked about working in a constantly changing environment where it wanted you to convey your prioritization/time management skills. Another one asked about a time you overcame a personal or professional challenge and basically what was it, how you overcame it, and the result. All of the questions were set up to be best answered in the STAR format, which I found to be okay, I just didn't always have the best quantitative results to discuss given my lack of engineering experience. The format was pretty easy to use to your advantage because it shows you the question and gives you 30 to 60 seconds to prepare your answer, then automatically starts your 3 minute response timer. You have three attempts though, so once your auto first attempt is over, you can take as long as you want to begin recording your second response, and then the same for your third. This is where I found it challenging to create a great response after the first attempt was over, because I wanted it to be perfectly said and everything given I could prepare for as long as I wanted for the last two attempts. But if you have a good idea for an answer based on an experience and are a good speaker, it should be no problem. The video preview showing your face is annoyonig because even when you cover it with the optional "hide-face" feature, it's just a dark translucent cover so I still found it slightly distracting, but I was just nervous.

After the five questions I had three small aptitude games to complete. The first was a math game where you were shown an operation (+ - x /) and a final answer value, where you had some numbers in the main area that you had to combine based on the operation to get the final answer. It was pretty easy, besides some where you had like 102 as the answer and it was multiplication but had no obvious two number answer, so it was typically three values shown that you had to combine. You could probably use a calculator, I didn't think to bc they were mostly easy, but the camera light on my laptop was still on, so I'm not sure if that part is recorded, but I don't think so.

Next game was a shape matching game with a 3x3 square comprised of little shapes in it and you had to match the overall 3x3 shape. So it'd have a circle in the center position and maybe two triangles in specific locations within the grid as well as one or two other designs and you'd have to identify the grids that were the same. Hard to explain but also pretty intuitive.

The last game was just clicking one of two pictures that you agree with more/is more like you?? It was weird bc it would show stock images that you had to select as being more like you, but they weren't always related to each other. For example, one pic would show a hand giving money to a dirty/worn hand and the other would maybe show people working as a team in the workplace. So I guess its evaluating if I pick the "generous/giver" trait from the hand pic, or the "teamworker/collaborator" from the pic with the people working in the conference room. Sometimes it would show a pic of an organized work area and one of an unorganized area, so that was more clear to me to understand. Hard to explain again, but it is easy and pretty straightforward.

I forgot to mention the first two games (math and matching) had a 3 or 4 total time limit where you just progressed through as many levels as you could within the time. My math one ended at like level 41, but it felt pretty quick to get there bc there were plenty of easy levels.

Hope that all helps, sorry for the novel haha, let me know if you have any other questions! Good luck!

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u/Stresss101 Aug 26 '22

Just went through this same precreen assessment myself, did you receive any further communication after you submitted it?

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u/EDScheumann Aug 26 '22

I didn't receive anything following the pre-screen until I was denied the position, it was just a waiting game until being emailed

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u/Stresss101 Aug 26 '22

Ah ok, sorry to hear that. How long after the prescreen did you get that email?

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u/EDScheumann Aug 26 '22

I believe it was about a week and a half? They're not super quick with their decisions

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u/engineeringman2021 Aug 24 '22

Thank you so much for posting this detailed answer. It also helped me. Appreciate it!

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u/EDScheumann Aug 24 '22

Glad it helped! 🫡🤝

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u/Difficult-Dog-3349 Jul 22 '22

Thanks a bunch mate! I'll read through and prepare myself. Life savor!

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u/anon3472683 Aug 29 '22

Hi! I just wanted to follow up with you and ask how you did on the prescreen? Super curious about your experience since I'm about to do mine as well

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u/Difficult-Dog-3349 Aug 30 '22

I took 1 or 2 of my chances to plan out my answer. That's my best advice, the rest the lad above explained very well.

Wear professional attire

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u/anon3472683 Aug 30 '22

Thanks! I appreciate your response

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u/wetwalter Jul 06 '22

Hi all! Excited to receive an offer as a systems engineering support analyst in OKC. Wanted to see if anyone had any insight into this type of position (responsibilities, work/life balance, growth potential, etc.)? I have a decent idea about what I'd be doing, but then again just had a 1 hour interview so I'd love any info anyone could give on this role!

Having never worked in aerospace before it would all be pretty new to me, although I do have about 4 years engineering experience in a couple different industries so I'm sure I could adapt. Just wanted to learn a bit more about what the role is like!

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u/Difficult-Dog-3349 Jul 22 '22

Sorry mate. no one got back to you. How was the assessment? I'm going to take one for a Entry Design Engineer. Is it math, coding, engineering questions?

Thanks in advance for any help

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u/wetwalter Jul 22 '22

Haha no worries! I ended up accepting my offer! My interview was strictly behavioral questions where the team all asked follow up questions if they felt necessary, which I think is pretty standard. Very relaxed and conversational. Although I’ve heard depending on the position the experience can vary. Good luck to you! Feel free to message me if you’d like to know more!

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u/opequenolobo Jul 05 '22

I got an interview for a entry-level systems engineer role, it's going to happen this week.

I work at the mining industry right now as a maintenance engineer, so it's a totally different world. What tips can you give me to ace the interview???? Any system's engineer can share traits that i need to show, please???

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u/Difficult-Dog-3349 Jul 22 '22

Hey bud any tips? Hey sorry no one got back to you. How was the assessment? I'm going to take one for a Entry Design Engineer. Is it math, coding, engineering questions?

Thanks in advance for any help

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u/opequenolobo Jul 22 '22

Hey!!! Wish you luck! I can't tell the details since it was confidential, but if you search the web for common interview questions for this position, you will find what you need! This is what i did!

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '22

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u/sometimesanengineer Jul 03 '22

For a union represented position you can

  1. Join the union.

  2. Beck objector - not really Join the union but you still have to pay dues, but you have your dues designated for no political stuff (pays for them negotiating your benefits)

  3. Some unions allow you to donate your dues to a non profit instead.

  4. In a state like Washington that doesn’t have a right to work statute you could be fired for not paying dues / joining the union.

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u/misturrmiguel Jul 03 '22

I may be wrong but if you are in a union represented position you will need to provide an adequate reason for not wanting to be part of the union.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '22

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u/whiskeylullaby3 Jul 04 '22

Absolutely you should always counter. I would say when I was hired Boeing didn’t negotiate and they rejected mine and other colleagues’ counters in my department but they would never take away the offer, and I think times are different now. I just moved internally and was able to counter the offer and it was accepted. I think a lot depends on the role, the manager, and just the times and how difficult it is to hire/keep people. I think many managers expect offers to be countered.

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u/sometimesanengineer Jul 02 '22

Salaries jobs are negotiable. Some other roles like machinist may be governed by the union contract.

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u/liberatelatios Jul 02 '22

They won't rescind the offer. They've already invested resources into giving you the offer letter in the first place. You have the most negotiating power when you have the letter in hand. And Boeing does negotiate; I was successful in getting a little more. At best, you get what you asked for. At worst, they say no.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '22

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u/liberatelatios Jul 02 '22

Ultimately it's up to you. I know people who don't negotiate. But you're leaving money on the table if you do. Remember that you need to have reasons for why you would even deserve more money in the first place. Look up common renegotiation emails and try to do the same.

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u/Own_Sink3067 Jul 02 '22

Partner has been on personal leave from Boeing for health reasons for several months. Doctor says it's unlikely he can return to the position he was hired in. My partner has other skillsets, is Boeing required to accommodate an employees new physical health needs and assign him a position that he is physically able to do?

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u/HandyPriest Jul 02 '22

Union or non union? If union I believe they can try to accommodate you in your current job code but I don’t think they are required to find you a job code you are able to perform in. Prob wanna look up disability in worklife for more info

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u/monaquaregia Jul 02 '22

Currently an intern finishing up my Computer Science degree. I have about 4 years of past work experience (lots of other internships and 2 year hiatus from school to work for a cyber security firm). I’m wondering how to go about negotiating my salary once offered, which is pretty much a guarantee. The job title is for Systems Engineer, Boeings initiative to create Digital Twins. I’m in the mindset that I have a lot of leverage because of my background and degree.

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u/sometimesanengineer Jul 02 '22

Sending you a DM.

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u/sometimesanengineer Jul 02 '22

Cybersecurity (of which product security engineering is one type) is pretty hot at Boeing. Anyone interested in a career in cyber is welcome to reach out on the cybersecurity insite group on the internal network. Folks with hands on experience in software development or building systems especially.

Sometimes they’re too busy to even post the reqs for all the help they need.

And it pays ~25k more than most of the other engineering skill codes.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '22

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u/sometimesanengineer Jul 03 '22

Pretty sure the senior technical fellow for PSE was a EE originally (many decades ago).

Cybersecurity is really a matter of doing other types of engineering / design / test with security in mind. The PCB / FPGA hardware security specialty within Product Security is sometimes called (for like job postings or conversation) anti-tamper or security engineering. The idea is to prevent, detect, and or respond to unauthorized modifications at the hardware level. Might be able to crossover into supporting that pretty readily.

Most of PSE is going to be systems design and requirements work which I find boring. That intersects with the model based engineering / model based systems engineering the last person was asking about.

The next biggest piece is secure software development. They’re doing everything from AWS security to certifying software for safety of flight. This seems out of your wheel house.

The next piece of work is penetration testing. If you know hardware, electronics, physical and network layers … pen testing of avionics / control systems is a bit of a niche that you could stand out in with your background. Helps a lot of you know programming too, but since Boeing technology is way different than the standard IT stuff most pen testers know, you might have an advantage there. There’s a standing team at Boeing that just works on learning how to do this stuff.

Asking some of this on internal insite might get you connected with the practitioners and managers looking for help.

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u/sometimesanengineer Jul 03 '22

The desperation factor is high, so maybe.

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u/ricamnstr Jul 02 '22

Anyone in an engineering position at Boeing has at minimum a bachelors in an engineering discipline or hard science, so your degree isn’t going to give you the leverage you think it does. You might be able to use some of previous experience to get a slightly better salary, but at the end of the day, you might really be fighting to justify coming in as a level 2 to get a better salary offer.

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u/monaquaregia Jul 02 '22

Understandable but I was looking at the job code for the Product Security team over in the next building who are (from what I was told) mostly computer science/software engineers and they’re entry salary is higher than the Mech Es/EEs that I work with here. I don’t mind doing Model Based Systems Engineering for the team here, I quite like it. But I know they wanted my C S background specifically because no one else on the team has it and the software environment is very new to everyone. I feel like I’m in a unique position especially since my internship role is to R&D this software and become a SME on it.

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u/GovernmentNo7603 Jul 01 '22

I just had my first day and i was notified that I was going to do training in the Everett plant instead of Renton

Problem is that I don't have a car and I'm pretty sure the Public Transit doesn't run late into the night (2nd shift)

Is there an alternate mode of transport I can do or is it possible that I can request training at Renton?

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u/whiskeylullaby3 Jul 04 '22

I would also speak to your manager about your concerns because if they’re a good manager.. they can work with you or help you find solutions.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '22

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u/GovernmentNo7603 Jul 02 '22

I checked the bus schedule and the only available busses are the ones that start at 5 in the morning. I'm supposed to get off my shift at 11:30pm :(

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u/Jerry_1_8 Jul 01 '22

As of a couple of days ago I got my background check results from Hireright. Today I noticed that on “Results” it said “Adjudicated” and this was done by Boeing. On the “Result” section it says “Pending Boeing”. What is next step in this process?

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '22

The next step is your CES will talk to you about a start date. Then you will get an email that says, “Welcome to Boeing!” With your next steps.

You’ll go get your badge picture taken

I-9

Pick up badge

Meet up with manager.

Orientation likely a couple weeks later- virtual.

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u/Common_Fennel8336 Jul 02 '22

And now the waiting game has begun.. it took them two weeks to finish mine due to a few discrepancy but nothing major. Just a few dates off and they had to check my credit. I just got an email today that I am all clear and now I have to wait again until Global Staffing representative reaches out to me.

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u/Careful-Lifeguard-25 Jul 14 '22

Hello! Congrats on your new job! I just submitted my background check information and I will take the drug test today.

How long did it took for you to get your first day after completing all that?

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u/Common_Fennel8336 Jul 19 '22

Thank you!! Well they gave me my start date before my background was even cleared. Then after it cleared they confirmed my start date 3 days after it actually cleared. A week later I got my Onboarding task.

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u/Careful-Lifeguard-25 Jul 28 '22

Oh!! My background check from hireright came back a week ago. Same thing : “pending Boeing “ I haven’t heard anything back yet.

Is that normal?

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u/Common_Fennel8336 Jul 28 '22

Yes, it’s normal. After HireRight is done, the Boeing Background screening team will look at it and do their side of the background screening. If they see anything odd on it, they will send you an email for you to provide proof and explanation. You can always email your POC and ask for an update. It just really depends what department and how busy they are..

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '22

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u/Crump_daddy Jul 01 '22

I think entry level engineers get 21 days of PTO a year, when you first start you’ll get half that up front and won’t accrue until 6 months after your start date. After that I think you accrue somewhere around 3.3 hours per week.

Taking PTO to extend holidays is super common, especially around Christmas.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '22

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u/Crump_daddy Jul 01 '22

I don’t think it’s in workday. If you have access to work life just search “PTO” and there’s a document that has all the policies.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '22

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u/Crump_daddy Jul 01 '22

Feel free to DM me and when I get to my computer I can see if we have a benefits summary and I can try to send it to you Edit: but I feel that we have some of the best benefits in the industry

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u/Mrbagher Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 02 '22

I did a pre screen assessment a month ago nearly. A recruiter asked me to apply for position they called me then test and now waiting. I just asked yesterday and one of the recruiters answered this: Thank you very much for your application for xxxxxxx role, the recruitment process is on, please await for further information via email. Thank you...Today I see that they are advertising for the position. So, why the hiring manager still looking at the resume and they still are advertising? what does that mean?

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u/Ok_Town_729 Oct 02 '22

Hey! Did you end up getting a reply back from Boeing after your pre-screen assessment? How long did they take to reply? I took mine almost a month ago and I'm still waiting. I read somewhere that results can take some time between a week to 2 months.

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u/Difficult-Dog-3349 Jul 22 '22

Hey mate. How was the prescreen assessment? I'm going to take one for a Entry Design Engineer. Is it math, coding, engineering questions?

Thanks in advance for any help

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u/PyrrhaNikosIsNotDead Jul 02 '22

Thanks a bunch for posting their response 🙏

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '22

I would say they are still advertising because likely they need more than one person. Maybe you got the job, maybe you didn’t. But either way they are probably going to recruit multiple people.

I don’t know though, that is just my $.02

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u/Mrbagher Jul 06 '22

You might be right because they suddenly started to announce position heavily!

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '22

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u/Mrbagher Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 01 '22

They mentioned "Actively recruiting" and it does not take out. They told me the recruitment process is on, please await for further information via email.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '22

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '22

If I apply to a posting as an internal candidate, do I only get reviewed after the posting gets taken off? Or do they start reviewing candidates intermediately while the posting is still up?

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u/howlmockery_ Jul 01 '22

Can anyone tell me about the technical publication project specialist role? The job posting was pretty general and I would appreciate if anyone has any insights?

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '22

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u/howlmockery_ Jul 01 '22

Thanks for your response! All I know is that it’s under BCA and the posting translated well to my current job and background (I have QA and project management experience). I was referred to apply by a current employee.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '22

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '22

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u/aeroespacio Jul 01 '22

DM me the manager for the role

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u/gator616 Jun 30 '22

Does applying for a role at a Boeing subsidiary count as an internal transfer? Would you still be a Boeing employee, with all the same benefits, etc?

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u/sometimesanengineer Jul 01 '22

Counts for years of service probably but many of the subs have different benefits.

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u/gator616 Jul 01 '22

Hm okay, so hypothetically if I were to use LTP benefits at Boeing, but within those two years post-degree I switched to a sub that has its own educational benefits, I can’t get reimbursed right?

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u/sometimesanengineer Jul 01 '22

You need to check with HR on that. I think you might not have to repay Boeing for “leaving” within two years, but you would want that clarified.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '22

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u/gator616 Jun 30 '22

RIP, thank you though

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u/Lordgold22 Jun 30 '22

For the STL location, what’s the recommended health insurance plan? I’m new to the area so I don’t have doctors but I have a couple prescriptions I need to refill asap, so I gotta get the ball rolling and I’m in need of advice.

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u/whiskeylullaby3 Jul 04 '22

Whatever you do.. do not do the Mercy Preferred Partnership Plan. It is cheaper but you are regulated to use only doctors in that network and even many Mercy doctors are somehow not in the preferred partnership. It’s super restrictive. I would never recommend as many colleagues have been screwed over having to go out of network. The HSA plan is fine.. just not the preferred network.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '22

Mercy + aka the cheap one and u also get an HSA

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u/sometimesanengineer Jul 01 '22

Not STL but somewhat universal info in the US.

Traditional is going to be the most cost month to month (premiums) but least cost if you see the doctor a lot. Prescription costs might be the same between them. The websites for picking insurance should include a comparison. The high deductible plans let’s you do a health savings account, tax advantage there and lets you keep the money you / company put in if you didn’t spend it. So theoretically if you’re healthy you build money in the account and if you’re sicker later it’s easier to pay for out of the reserve / war chest you built up.

Lotta younger people go for that high deductible plan (Called “advantage” or something) because it’s the least cost now and they don’t need the doctor too often. There’s another version of that plan that gives you more HSA from the company but gives a smaller pool of “in network” doctors and hospitals to go to. “Preferred partner” network. Might be labeled “advantage <network name>”

Note - Can only change plans at hire time, the end of the year, or big events like marriage / kids.

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u/BucksBrew Jun 30 '22

Unfortunately no. They used to do public tours of the Everett plant (which were actually very well done) but they haven't restarted them since COVID - hopefully soon. Everett will have a Family Day in August and Renton in September, that is a day that they open it to the public to come see the factory.

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u/Curiousmindsoflate Jun 30 '22

Is it normal to not hear from a recruiter after Boeing extends a job offer? I have not heard anything from Boeing for a month and saw a job offer in my inbox today. Reached out to both recruiters and left a message about salary, position specifics, and timeline for starting.

Is it normal to not receive a call for a senior position?

Thanks

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '22

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u/Curiousmindsoflate Jun 30 '22

I can assure you I have not been called. Radio silence. The offer has my name and address but nothing from any recruiters.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '22

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u/Curiousmindsoflate Jun 30 '22

Yes it came through my workday inbox. Under tasks. For being a senior level position I expected at least a little more welcoming invitation . Lol

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '22

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u/Curiousmindsoflate Jun 30 '22

Yeah I received an offer for a different position back in November and the recruiter called me concurrently. Might just be the holiday. It says I have 48 hours to respond but we have several items to discuss.

Hope to hear back from them within that window.

Thank you for being so helpful!

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u/Mysterious_Battle_18 Jun 29 '22

What is the process for intern conversion? What if I am interested in another team/sector of Boeing, what are the steps then?

Thanks in advance!

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u/Billy_the_Rabbit Jun 29 '22

Interviewed may 14 started June 17th

Now I'm in week 2 of 8-12 weeks of classes in Everett

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '22

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u/Billy_the_Rabbit Jun 29 '22

Structure's mechanic, just safety , familiarization and otj training

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u/garyphan70 Jun 29 '22

What classes can you tell that take 8-12 weeks?

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u/Careful-Lifeguard-25 Jun 29 '22

Hello! I had an interview 1.5 week ago two more days until its been 2 weeks. The hiring manager did mention to expect a response in two weeks since they do interviews weekly. Is it normal that I haven’t hear anything yet? If I don’t get a response during those two weeks does that usually means that I am not getting the position?

UPDATE: is been more than two weeks now. I sent a follow up email two working days ago to the hiring manager and no response. Is this a bad sign? What does that typically means?

UPDATE 2: its been 4 weeks since my interview and I sent a follow up two weeks ago and mo response. Should I let it go?

UPDATE 3: Last week I sent a second follow up to the department manager and he responded saying that I am supposed to be receiving an offer within “a couple of working days”. It has been 5 weeks since my interview today. Is it save to put in my two week notice?

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u/WatersOkay Jun 29 '22

Don't put in your 2 week notice until you've signed the offer, have a starting date, and cleared background check

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u/Careful-Lifeguard-25 Jun 29 '22

I just started a month ago. I am not sure what to do

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u/WatersOkay Jun 29 '22

Started at Boeing or started at a different job?

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u/Careful-Lifeguard-25 Jun 29 '22

I different job. I started a different job (I was not that hopeful about the Boeing position). So now it has been a month in my new job.

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u/AnalogBehavior Jun 30 '22

Any offer you get from Boeing at this point is just a "conversation" they're having with you. It's not something you'd take to your currently employer and give notice. DO NOT GIVE NOTICE!!!! When you get the offer, basically, either you want the job and like the salary and bonus or relocation - if offered, or you don't. If you decide you want to proceed, then you have a bunch of forms to sign, and it leads to a background check and drug test. After all of that is done, you'll get a start date, or pick from a couple options, and then, when all of that is official, you can give your notice. Assuming you still want the job, and that it's for a salary worth leaving your current employer over.

Also, do you not like your current job? You just started.

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u/Careful-Lifeguard-25 Jun 29 '22

I just started a month ago. I am not sure what to do

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u/Mrbagher Jun 29 '22

Is there anybody applying from Poland here? I just finished pre assessment screen June 4. I asked the hiring manager is assessing. Anybody knows when shall I expect and what should be next step? The recruiter themselves asked me to apply

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '22 edited Jun 29 '22

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u/whiskeylullaby3 Jul 04 '22

There will be a large range based on the skill code. Boeing does minimum, mid and maximum range for each level and skill code. They are rather large.. my minimum is something like 85k and max is $150k or so. Usually they try to hire people in more at the mid and that’s likely close to what they’d offer you (probably slightly below), so I usually counter with about 10-15k more than their offer.

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u/sometimesanengineer Jun 29 '22

Five years as a planning specialist or five years as a teacher?

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '22

5 years as a teacher and 5 years in a hybrid school librarian/project coordinator role.

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u/sometimesanengineer Jun 29 '22

If you can find a similar job posted in a state that requires disclosure of a salary range, that would be one way to source it. You’d be looking at the median of the range or ~.9 of the median. Someone else might know what skill code that is and share the salary table median with you.

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u/ElGatoDelFuego Jun 29 '22

Negotiate for L3

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u/peaceful_ball89 Jun 29 '22

I applied and they denied my application but I got an email from Boeing saying it was an accident. Does anyone know whats the average time for an application to be reviewed?

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u/sometimesanengineer Jun 29 '22

There’s auto denial if you don’t answer favorably to all the questions. For some jobs they will override that and look at peoples applications who got rejected (especially if nobody or very few got past the screening questions or they set them up wrong)

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u/peaceful_ball89 Jun 29 '22

thanks man for some insight, do you know how long it takes for them to reach you about the job after being accepted ?

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '22

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u/sometimesanengineer Jun 29 '22

Remote means remote. Boeings mostly figured out that people that do virtual meetings all day can do that … virtually lol. That procurement work is never ending, but note that any given job at Boeing can be designated in person only, so you’re a bit limited in other jobs but if you make a good name for yourself other managers will be more likely to accept / take a risk on you as remote.

How many years relevant experience? Median is a good place to start. I would ask 10-15% over median if you have 3 or more years relevant experience / you think you’re highly qualified.

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u/chrisbcurie Jun 28 '22

Are there certain times of the year for in-position promotions? I spoke to my manager about a promotion and he was very vague and seemed to indicate it was coming, but he couldn’t give me a timeline. I’m wondering if I just need to apply to other internal positions or if I just need to wait.

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u/BucksBrew Jun 30 '22

It is all up to the skill team for your job code to decide how to do that. In my experience promotions run March through November with the other months blacked out for raises and retention exercise for SPEEA.

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u/whiskeylullaby3 Jun 28 '22

I currently work at Boeing and have for 6 years. I’ve been offered a position in another function but am waiting for the official offer. As far as a new start date, I’ve been told my current and new manager would negotiate that? I’ve heard varying reports that a manager could keep you anywhere from 30 days to 3 months. We are down several on our team so I worry about my new manager keeping me. Does anyone know what the actual parameters are?

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u/N_channel_device Jun 28 '22

If it is a no-post req then yes there is an element of negotiation. If it was a posted req you applied to and you accept there is a clock that starts on how long by default your current org can keep you. They can attempt to keep you longer but this can be denied.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '22

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u/whiskeylullaby3 Jun 30 '22

I got 30 days so I think you’re right that must be normal!

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u/N_channel_device Jun 29 '22

Yup. Thanks for clarifying I figured there was another stipulation.

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u/Paulofthedesert Jun 28 '22

I landed a manager interview for 737 Materials Management and Transportation manager. I'm not even sure what the job would require - most of my experience is in the Inventory Control side of things along with WMS systems. Anyone have any tips on the exact duties of that role? Or what to expect in the interview?

I'm supposed to interview Friday- what should I even wear? Full suit or dress attire with a tie?

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u/HandyPriest Jun 28 '22

All the managers I’ve ever seen seem to go with the slacks and under Armour golf/polo shirt, but this is also on the factory floor so maybe someone can shed some info on the office setting

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u/Careless-Internet-63 Jun 28 '22

In my experience most teams dress casual or business casual, you'd probably be good just doing dress attire with a tie

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u/Fun-Upstairs-4232 Jun 28 '22

I am considering applying for a position at the Ridley Park, PA site. The position is Program Planning Specialist. Currently on the shop floor and been with Boeing less than a year. I love Boeing and my current position, however, I feel this position will suit me more. I already have my BA degree, military experience, etc. Does anyone has experience with this position? Also, is it a good look to apply for an internal position although I've only been in my current position for less than a year? Any thoughts and advice will be highly appreciated.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '22

Reach out to the hiring manager and request and informational interview to get a feel for the position and you can introduce yourself.

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u/BucksBrew Jun 30 '22

Unpaid leave is not generally something that they would approve, especially for a brand new employee. It would be different if you were a 15-20 year employee asking for a sabbatical. But of course it really all depends on your manager.

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u/Careless-Internet-63 Jun 28 '22

If your manager is nice they may have a loose policy with sick leave, I've seen managers who just don't ask about it and if you're not someone who gets sick much that gives you four weeks of paid leave in your first year which really isn't bad

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u/jayrady Jun 28 '22

Depends on the position, team and needs.

I am taking some unpaid time off later this year.

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u/BrilliantPhysics836 Jun 27 '22

I applied for an entry level engineering job in Huntsville on June 7. Got confirmation and an email saying a recruiter would be reviewing it in a few days and reaching out to me shortly. I have had no response. No rejection email and no contact. The job is no longer listed. Is 3 weeks unusual? Thank you so much to anyone who responds.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '22

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u/BrilliantPhysics836 Jun 28 '22

Does HR decide who gets an interview or is it the hiring manager? I actually applied for the position on the recommendation of the hiring manager. I spoke with him for 20 min before I even applied and put him as my referring employee.

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u/GovernmentNo7603 Jun 27 '22

I'm 18 and going into a full time position but I don't have a proper ID (At most I have a school ID from highschool)

I was told that it was possible that Boeing might not accept it during i-9

However, a school ID is listed as an acceptable document for an I-9. I have other supporting documents too, I just want to know if there will be a problem with Boeing recognizing my School ID as a proper document.

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u/HandyPriest Jun 27 '22

There was a chart that showed what IDs were acceptable and what combination you needed to be passed. But as the other person mentioned you need a real ID, head to your local DMV and get at least an ID card asap

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '22

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u/Dan273 Jun 27 '22 edited Jun 27 '22

Start date on a Saturday ?

Edit* I received a start date that’s on a Saturday

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u/sometimesanengineer Jun 27 '22

Should be Fridays

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u/Dan273 Jun 27 '22

That’s what I thought. And was originally told it would be that Friday….

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u/maedude Jun 27 '22

Not sure if this is the correct place to ask this but here it goes...

Does boeing/speea (Prof) provide bereavement pay or is it part of the sick day allotment we get per year?

My father unexpectedly passed this past Wednesday and I used sixkleave for Wed and Thursday and Friday. I still need a few more days to take care of family/mental stuff.

I let my manager know first thing Wednesday but I said that I had a family emergency... Didn't specifically say my dad had passed since I was still in shock mode. Should I email him again and be more specific? Should I ask for bereavement pto?

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u/lonewolf210 Jun 27 '22

I believe the other poster is misinformed in saying that you have to have exhausted your PTO/Sick pay first. There are 3 days authorized per year

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u/entropicitis Jun 28 '22

This is correct. Email your manager and explain. In my experience whatever days you do/don't have available are not relevant in this situation. Manager should work with you to take the time you need to grieve and take care of the estate (within reason of course).

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u/terrorofconception Jun 27 '22

Sorry for your loss and that you’re having to navigate this.

It’s covered in the contract article 6. If you’ve completely exhausted your sick and vacation they can give you bereavement leave up to 3 days but you have to fully use those both before that is on the table.

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u/lonewolf210 Jun 27 '22

Is that for SPEAA? The Handbook does not mandate that you have used all your PTO or Sick leave first. IN fact it explicitly says that if more than 3 days are needed PTO may be used in conjunction to extend it

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u/terrorofconception Jun 27 '22

… I’m referencing the SPEEA contract so yea the SPEEA contract is for SPEEA.

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u/lonewolf210 Jun 27 '22

o my bad the section number appeared to line up with the handbook

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u/maedude Jun 27 '22

Thanks for the reply!

That was the initial impression I got but wasn't sure.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '22

Related to health insurance options in WA (I am not sure if specifically for SPEEA positions or not): What are the pros and cons between BCBS-Advantage+ plan and BCBS-Embright Advantage+? It seems the latter has a higher Boeing contribution (good!!) but everything else seems to be the same compared to the former with one exception (my intuition - I am not sure): a smaller network of service providers. Can someone comment on that?

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u/sometimesanengineer Jun 27 '22

Yeah it’s the “preferred partner” network so you get a little more company contribution in exchange for less in-network places.

Don’t know if this even mentions “embright” but I checked it does have a slide mentioning differences for preferred partner.

Worth noting that the preferred partner network can change. Besides doctors and hospital systems choosing to leave or join the network, the company / insurer can pick a different partner next year. That’s not an issue for some people but some realllly like to see the same doctor every time and get bothered.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '22

Just got an offer for an entry level position and am curious about tuition assistance:

Once I qualify for tuition assistance, will I be expected to work while simultaneously attending school?

I have completed my bachelor's but would like to obtain a master's. I know there are certain eligibility requirements to obtain tuition assistance, BUT I'm not sure I'm interested in doing a technical masters online after work during the evenings. I have another position lined up that will pay for my master's while paying me salary and i do not have to work while I'm in school.

I expect the answer to my question is an obvious Yes, but I could not confirm this online yet. I will ask my HR contacts this week but have to make a decision very soon, so any context is very helpful.

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u/sometimesanengineer Jun 27 '22

Full time work and school in your off hours.

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u/hd1010 Jun 26 '22

You have to work on your school's work at your own time. You can work on school stuff during lunch break as well. You can log in worklife for educatinal hand book to see the rule and policies.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '22

Started 8 days ago and so far really enjoying it.

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u/aeroespacio Jun 26 '22

Hell yeah. It's a big company, plenty of experiences on all ends of the spectrum. Mine has been really positive despite promotion troubles, and I'm glad you're liking it too

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u/jayrady Jun 26 '22

10 days ago. Same.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '22

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u/entropicitis Jun 28 '22

18 months. Onboarding, new grad or experienced, is one of Boeing's biggest weaknesses. They suck at it across the board. Focus on doing good work and don't get discouraged. Some advice that I didn't take advantage of until it was too late - Don't be afraid to ask managers of related teams for opportunities if things are slow on your team. As long as you can get a charge number, your manager shouldn't care if there truly isn't anything to work on. I didn't even know this was an option/encouraged until it came up in a conversation with my manager.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '22

I am not an engineer, but I am under the engineering umbrella on the tech side. I am not new to the company, but I am a recall. When they recalled me, I have the same position, but this group is at a different plant and a totally different SOW. The managers just expect me to plug in, and start churning out work.

I basically feel like a new person new to aerospace.

The training has been less than stellar, so I can relate to your situation. Nobody is really interested in showing me the ropes. Some guys are genuinely too busy, and the other ones I would consider slackers and not interested is in training. There was no concrete plan for me when I joined the team.

I have come to realize that if I want to learn anything I’m going to have to be the one to dig for it. At first, with the hybrid/not in the office thing, I thought I was just screwed. I am on site 100% and everyone else isn’t. So I have found that I can buddy up with some folks by taking turns sharing screens while being on the phone too.

It’s weird, but it’s really my only option right now.

That might be an idea for you though? Have a coworker share screens with you, then when you are ready, you can share screens with them and they can help you back.

I even went to just look for another job. Other positions and same positions but at my preferred location. Well, recalls, new hires, and rehires are all locked in for a minimum of 1 year unless they have mgmt approval.

I am now driving 600 miles a week to work. I too, can have a hybrid schedule but mgr said not until I am 100% up to speed. So i feel ya, buddy.

The onboarding is a shit show.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '22

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '22

I came back right at the very end of April.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '22

I’m hearing about 6-8 months is how long it takes before you’re comfortable

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u/jordantc Jun 25 '22

Hang in there, unfortunately we can struggle with onboarding people effectively. It’s not always the case, but it’s fairly common. I started 9ish years ago, brand new to aerospace — took 6 (?) months or something. I’ve changed roles several times and it’s always uncomfortable. Find what works for you in a new space and it’ll help you later on.

If your manager hasn’t assigned a buddy who’s also relatively new, ask for one or go find one. Find a couple. Go around your team, sister teams, meet a bunch of people, learn how work moves through groups. Go back to school in something that interests you.

You can find me relatively easily based on my username, feel free to connect. Cheers.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '22

Go back to school in something that interests you.

I'm fairly aware of Boeing's tuition assistance, but I just want to confirm if Boeing expects you to work while you go back to school? Obviously they do, right? So that means you have to find an eligible program that offers online/night classes? How does tuition assistance work?

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u/jordantc Jun 27 '22 edited Jun 27 '22

You can take an ELOA, but I'd suggest doing it while working. If it's STEM or closely related, we'll usually cover 100%.

As for programs, it's generally pretty accepting. You can go with a preferred school which I believe they still have listed on their page.

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u/jordantc Jun 25 '22

As for side projects, it really depends on your team/org. Some may want you to “stay in your lane” which takes some navigating, others can be like hey cool whatever. Depends. The more you learn and chat with others around, you may pick up on some gaps that need help filling.

I’d also check out BRGs, see about getting involved. Forgot to mention that earlier.