r/cellmapper • • 15d ago

Possible VZW Michigan UP 5G Changes

I have received an indication that Verizon may have activated an n2 carrier on the cell site serving Eagle Harbor MI in the Keweenaw. However, I am not present there at the moment and the equipment I have in the area cannot determine this for sure.

If this is true, that would be the first non-n77 Verizon 5G I (or anyone else running Cellmapper) have seen in Michigan's upper peninsula.

If any of you have suitable equipment for checking this in your area of the UP, could you please take a peek? I won't be up there for a couple weeks and am very curious to know whether they are, in fact, starting to roll lower-band 5G out there.

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u/[deleted] 15d ago

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u/DrDeke 15d ago

That would be nice. I'm guessing they are still seeing enough low-band traffic from devices that don't support n5 that they are worried about causing excessive B13 congestion if they move band 5 over to 5G NR in those areas.

But, being a phone company, one never really knows. Maybe it's just not a priority for them. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/DrDeke 15d ago

There are at least a handful of Verizon 5G devices that don't support n5 (Inseego M1000, Samsung S10 5G), but yeah, I don't think they are very widespread.

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u/furruck 15d ago

And even if there are, throwing them a slightly newer refurb model from leftover replacements in the warehouse would fix that fairly quickly

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u/massivewhitekitteh 15d ago

I’m currently in negaunee right now and it’s might head up that way tomorrow.. if I do I’ll keep an eye out .

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u/DrDeke 15d ago

Cool, thanks!

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u/Jackpen7 15d ago

They just turned on n2 yesterday in Springfield, Missouri so they could be rolling it out in more tier 2 and 3 markets this month. I'm still not seeing it on any rural sites though.

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u/mjlamott 10d ago

Not sure if it's helpful or not, but I had not noticed that tower broadcasting 5G before and pulled 942 Mbps on a speed test from it a week or so ago.

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u/DrDeke 10d ago

Thanks for the observation! I can confirm that they enabled n77 on that tower earlier this summer.

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u/Rh1no84 15d ago

Here in southeast Florida they have n5 10mhz n2 15mhz and n77 60mhz and 100mhz deployed for 5g

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u/D_Gleich 15d ago

I didn’t have any service on Verizon between Ensign and Manistique and I had very poor service in Manistique. I’ve been told that it’s AT&T country up there.

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u/SceneRevolutionary93 5G UW 15d ago edited 14d ago

They disabled n5 when it first came out as it hurt Verizon’s voice quality when they first started. They’ve reactivated it in markets that they have extra spectrum

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u/SceneRevolutionary93 5G UW 14d ago

Idk…. A Verizon engineer told me

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u/CatDadof2 15d ago

What do you mean? I use n5 all the time.

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u/SceneRevolutionary93 5G UW 14d ago

I meant they used to disable it nationwide, they’ve reintroduced it

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u/Dependent_Teach_4245 15d ago

They disable dss because it wasn’t efficient cus they was splitting n5 between 4g and 5g in real time but n5 been back up running for a longtime now

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u/DrDeke 15d ago

Verizon only has n5 back up and running in select markets.

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u/SceneRevolutionary93 5G UW 14d ago

I believe they run it where they have both channels

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u/WF71 15d ago

Verizon n5 on DSS worked well in my area in an Ericsson market.

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u/Dependent_Teach_4245 14d ago

And n5 on dss, nsa and sa sucks in my area. Verizon needs n71