r/centralmich • • 15d ago

Community As enrollments plummet, communities like Mt. Pleasant sweat job losses from universities

https://www.themorningsun.com/2026/09/23/as-enrollments-plummet-michigan-communities-like-mt-pleasantsweat-job-losses-from-universities/
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u/the-bearded-omar 15d ago

When I was at CMU the city did everything in its power to keep the students away, so looks like that egg is finally starting to hatch.

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u/Go_J 15d ago

When did you go? I graduated in 2014 and always felt like the "townies" hated us and hoped we'd die!!

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u/the-bearded-omar 15d ago

07-12. The city was in the process of giving out tax credits to anyone who took a rental property downtown and turned it into a single family home. Was at the tail end of the construction of all the farm field apartments (Deerfield, bluegrass, etc) that kept kids out in the sticks instead of more density in the city. The city was starting to crack down on parties on Main Street and the tailgating went from one of the best in the country to a ghost town.

The way the town despised the students never made any sense to me, considering how inextricably linked it is to the university.

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u/taftpanda 15d ago

Same. ‘18-‘22 here, and the city’s Party and Nuisance Ordinance was in full swing by that time.

Made it almost impossible to even have a party or have people over responsibly without risking a ticket.

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u/manimarapper_313 15d ago

‘22-‘26 here, can confirm this is the norm still. It sucks.

St. Pats was shut down in not even 30 minutes.

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u/the-bearded-omar 14d ago

Ah I’m sorry. When I was there, there was anywhere between 28-33k students if memory serves. There was still fun to be had. Welcome Weekend had the entire downtown neighborhoods full of parties. Tailgating was an Olympic sport. Our sophomore year we were in the MAC championship and beat MSU twice. The dorms were so full some rooms had 5 people instead of 4. And we all had phones but smart phones were just starting to become a thing towards the end.

There were still hints of it going sour though. The concentration of students in cornfields was well underway. My crew all worked at bars and restaurants downtown, so we were all Bird regulars and knew all the spots. But I was at a party once senior year and and we were leaving to go to the bar and a girl my age didn’t know Mt Pleasant had a downtown.

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u/manimarapper_313 14d ago

I miss The Bird so much. Thank you for the stories! I wish we had 20k+ students but :/

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u/Les_Goh1988 12d ago

07-12 as well. The town hated the students

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u/BigChubs1 15d ago

Disclaimer I work for private university in Michigan and went to college and never stayed in campus. I’m so flipping happy that I don’t live in city or have to work on campus very often. I can’t stand students nowadays. There’s no common sense or don’t respect other people property. I knew someone that lived in mount pleasant and had drunk students in his yard or knock on there door. And whenever driving in Mount pleasant drives me bunkers.

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u/JeulMartin 14d ago

You should yell at them all to get off your lawn! Don't they know you have 700 Club reruns to watch?

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u/BigChubs1 13d ago

Don’t mind kids playing in my yard. 18 years or older shouldn’t be acting like 10 years old. People baby this 18 years old or older. It’s time to be responsible.

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u/JeulMartin 13d ago

Sure thing, grandpa. Let's get your meds settled before bedtime.

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u/BigChubs1 12d ago

You’re just proving my point. No respect for your elders or surroundings

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u/user092185 12d ago

I went to CMU from 07-11… The first three years the tailgate scene was insane; particularly the South stadium lot. They cracked down on that lot w new rules and it was garbage. In 2008 we hosted WMU and there were tons of kids from all over including MSU and UM who said they always go to Western-Central weekend to visit friends, and because the party was 10x better than their own schools.

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u/Les_Goh1988 12d ago

Remember when they tried to limit each person to a 6pack?

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u/JeulMartin 14d ago

Tell the boomers that are against students to go work at the local pub. lol

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u/bigdubsy 15d ago

I graduated a decade ago and have spent significant time in 5-6 college towns since then. It's remarkable to me how badly Mt. Pleasant bumbles it's chance to be a fantastic college town. I don't know anything about leadership there but the culture of hating students was crazy to me at the time and I didn't realize how weird it was until I was gone.

Of course the student population does contribute to this feeling as they struggle to find identity and community there. CMU is treated by most students as a transfer portal or a fallback option.

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u/JwubalubaDubdub 15d ago

Is Central too big to fail? Could this university really close one day?

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u/derekdevries 12d ago

Unfortunately most universities are not too big to fail - all of Michigan's public universities (and many private ones) are in a precarious economic situation right now.

They would be in trouble due to the decline in enrollment (driven by a declining share of college-age population) even if the current administration wasn't making good on its goal of eliminating public higher education (by withholding and canceling research funding, driving away international students, and restricting the amount students can take out in loans).

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u/PainInTheAssDean 15d ago

Of course not. This is such an uninformed take

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u/JwubalubaDubdub 15d ago

Of course not what? It’s not too big to fail? Or it won’t close one day? It’s a fathomable question to ask as Central is in a rural area with no nearby metro, is losing students to MSU as they accept 85% of their applicants, and is in a state with declining population and birth rates, not to mention Central has lost over half of its student population in a decade. I think there should be real concern there.

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u/LumberSauce 15d ago

Isn't enrollment finally going up again? That's what I read at least

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u/JwubalubaDubdub 15d ago

Fall 2025 enrollment was 14,171 students

Fall 2026 enrollment is 13,524 students

So it’s still declining

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u/QuickPea3259 15d ago

They like to act like it is by using data that supports the reality they are trying to create. Using phrases like, "enrollment decline is the best it's been in 15 years" or "studies show less people than ever are now not attending cmu!"

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u/SilverMcFly 15d ago

Inform us, oh wise one. 

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u/pinetreesnsand 13d ago

Strange statement here - how is this a problem? Funding amount been level over 42 years and has kept up with inflation, fewer students to spend it on - yet it's a problem??

“We have about the same amount of funding, when you factor in inflation, as we did in 1983,” he said.

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u/derekdevries 12d ago

Funding has not kept up with inflation - that's why having the same level of state funding as they did in 1983 is a problem.

By way of just one example - in 1983, computers were barely in use on college campuses - and now every university has a massive IT infrastructure that accounts for 4%-5% of its total annual budget.

One of the big problems is that universities had to scale up for the enrollment boom that peaked in 2015 (CMU had over 25,000 students, for example), and with a declining pipeline from high schools due to population trends. That infrastructure/capacity to serve an extra 10k students in CMU's case doesn't disappear overnight - and most universities are struggling with how to downsize to fit the projections moving forward.

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u/Les_Goh1988 12d ago

The school gets plenty of funding. No one wants to waste money to get a worthless piece of paper.

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u/derekdevries 12d ago

It's true that fewer people today feel that a college education is important. I disagree and so does virtually every statistical indicator of success (from household income to longevity to unemployment rates).

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u/pinetreesnsand 12d ago

The article is quoted as saying specifically that funding HAS kept up with inflation.

Another big difference is that Administration is now bloated compared to what it was.

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u/derekdevries 12d ago

"Simultaneously, state funding has not kept pace with inflation.

“We have about the same amount of funding, when you factor in inflation, as we did in 1983,” he said."

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u/pinetreesnsand 11d ago

Exactly. You're misunderstanding what's being said there. It HAS kept pace even when you factor in inflation.

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u/derekdevries 11d ago

I'm not misunderstanding anything. It specifically says funding has not kept pace with inflation, and we're so far behind one has to go back to 1983 for an equivalent funding level (the value of the dollar has eroded as inflation rose 236% since then).

In 1983, CMU received $49m in state appropriations.

If their funding kept up with inflation, they would have received $133m in state appropriatons last year. However, in 2025, CMU received $97m in state appropriations. The dollar amount is numerically larger, but it's worth substantially less - equivalent to a -37% cut in funding. They are working with less money (adjusted for inflation) than before.

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u/Les_Goh1988 12d ago

🤣🤣🤣🤣