r/comics • Smuggies • Jul 28 '26

OC Please resist responsibly

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u/TheCharalampos Jul 28 '26

All pacifist movements that achieved great results did have implied violence lending a large hand.

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u/NoBizlikeChloeBiz Jul 28 '26

And that implied violence always needs to be demonstrated at some point, or it's not seen as a credible threat. Changing the status quo is inherently disruptive - not changing the status quo has to be credibly seen as even more disruptive than the change being demanded.

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u/Reof Jul 28 '26

The fault of being 'violent' is too often put on the people who resist; people are just never going to resort to a fatal armed struggle in any capacity unless they have been put to it under the immense suppression of the authority. And there is also a confusion of militarised opposition and ''violence'', the Portuguese conscripts rolled up to the capital and overthrew the fascist regime with tanks, artillery and guns, and yet it was one of the most exemplary peaceful revolutions in our time.

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u/GSilky Jul 28 '26

Proof beyond assumptions of people who are sympathetic to violent protest? Nobody in government cared one bit about Malcolm X.

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u/TheCharalampos Jul 28 '26

Of they didn't care about him why did the fbi have half the department on the man? Come on now.

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u/GSilky Jul 28 '26

No, civil rights was passed by Hubert Humphrey and Walter Mondale twisting arms and showing fellow Democrats the data that they could sew up the Black vote for several generations and get an edge in urban electorates. MLK made it so that the population was fine with it. Malcolm X achieved fuck all.

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u/_Legend_Of_The_Rent_ Jul 28 '26

The FBI had a few thousand pages of files on Malcom X because they were surveiling him

https://vault.fbi.gov/malcolm-little-malcolm-x

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u/mankytoes Jul 28 '26

That's not true. Most of the time they realise that the powerful often fear losing money more than they feel violence- one of the biggest problems with violent resistance is once you give in to it once, everyone sees that they can just start attacking and threatening you to get what they want.

Gandhi wasn't threatening violence, but he did threaten economic standstill. And if there was no profit, what was the point in British India in the first place?

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u/TheCharalampos Jul 28 '26

Surely economic loss is a form of violence though? Gandhi did encourage quite a damn bit of violence, granted that was aimed at Muslims.