r/comics • Smuggies • Jul 28 '26

OC Please resist responsibly

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u/fukingtrsh Jul 28 '26

All important shopping is done online for a reason, pacifism won't work and never has.

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u/TetraDax Jul 28 '26

pacifism won't work and never has.

Well shit, I wasn't aware that the GDR still existed. Or that Euromaidan was a failure. Someone should tell Honecker and Yanukovych.

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u/nagrom7 Jul 28 '26

Or that Euromaidan was a failure.

I mean, Euromaidan was hardly "non-violent", although one side was definitely more guilty than the other. Also it literally triggered a Russian invasion that Ukraine had to fight off to a stalemate, that then flared up into a full scale war less than a decade later. Not exactly the poster child of a "pacifist" movement.

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u/TetraDax Jul 28 '26

It wasn't neccessarily non-violent, no. Of course. But the protesters never went out with the direct aim of using violence, they defended themselves against the copious violence of the state.

I also wouldn't agree with the argument that it triggered the Russian invasion - The Russian invasion happened because Ukraine got rid of the Russian puppet of a president. I don't think that's a failure of the protestors. If anything, it's a failure of the rest of Europe that allowed Russia to act like this and tried to normalize that insanity. The sad sack of useless shit I have to call my president nowadays, Steinmeier, most of all.

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u/nagrom7 Jul 28 '26

I also wouldn't agree with the argument that it triggered the Russian invasion - The Russian invasion happened because Ukraine got rid of the Russian puppet of a president. I don't think that's a failure of the protestors.

Oh I don't blame the protesters for that one bit, that's entirely Russia's fault. But still, the invasion happened as a result of the overthrowing of the government via the Euromaidan movement, and Ukraine had to respond with military action in kind. Self-defence is morally fine, but it's not pacifism.