This could be us, but

[u/vesmir_neasi]

I don’t need much. I want eat sweets without getting fat, I want to feel wanted and I want equal rights. Is it much to ask?

[u/shellbullet17]

I don’t need much. I want eat sweets without getting fat, I want to feel wanted and I want equal rights. Is it much to ask?

Two of those I understand

Let me know if you figure out the sweets thing. Haven't quite got that one down myself yet.

But you should absolutely be treated with respect and with equal rights

[u/MaximumSyrup3099 → u/shellbullet17]

Artificial sweetener and sugar substitutes. Though you might trade farts for fat.

[u/No_Story_Untold → u/MaximumSyrup3099]

Artificial sweeteners activate the same fat storing mechanism as sugar and are possibly worse for us. Minus stevia which I wouldn’t consider artificial.

[u/VoiceofKane → u/No_Story_Untold]

Also much more importantly, they taste fucking awful.

[u/CompetitiveClass1478 → u/VoiceofKane]

They really, really do.

I like fruit juice and honey as sweeteners, but I'll take real sugar over fake any day.

[u/ValdemarMerlin → u/No_Story_Untold]

No they don't, and no they aren't, why lie?

[u/SerialElf → u/No_Story_Untold]

No they don’t, the only thing that stores fat is excess calories, eat less calories lose weight easy as

[u/No_Story_Untold → u/SerialElf]

I could be wrong. But there is lots of reputable publications that claim this. https://www.endocrine.org/news-and-advocacy/news-room/2017/low-calorie-sweeteners-promote-fat-accumulation-in-human-fat

Your body is not always in a fat burning mode. But you are correct that the way to lose weight is to be in a caloric deficit. However replacing sugar with sucralose will not help you lose weight as it has a similar effect. It strips the body of its fat burning function for a period of time and it burns recently ingested carbs or sugar and stores fat. For a period of time. Your brain needs carbs and sometimes sugar to function especially during periods of high energy output. I don’t think sucraloce provides this upside.

[u/CondorSweep → u/No_Story_Untold]

this study was done on cells and not people. If you look at randomized and controlled studies done on actual humans where they replace sugar with non nutritive sweeteners, participants either lose weight or stay the same. 

[u/OneDougUnderPar → u/SerialElf]

Biochemistry is unfortunately not that simple. You also said the thermodynamics bait and switch word "weight".

It's well documented that chronic stress, poor sleep, and other factors can cause the body to change its priority fuel source. Eating less calories and losing muscle instead of adipose tissue is still losing weight but it's not the right kind of weight. CICO is an unhealthy oversimplification.

[u/ValdemarMerlin → u/OneDougUnderPar]

How is this a counterpoint to anything they said? Artificial sweeteners reduce calorie consumption while satiating sweet cravings was the claim, and your response is "some factors affect the calories out part of the equation and you can lose muscle if your overall diet isn't healthy"?

Managing your sleep and stress is healthy regardless of body composition goals, of course you should consume enough healthy fats and protein to keep muscles and hormone production functioning properly, that doesn't change the fact that artificially sweetened treats are still great for managing calories.