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u/Arizona_Kid Aug 07 '26

By law they should have to wear something that will make them easily identifiable (maybe a swastika patch?)

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u/Historical_Book2268 Aug 07 '26

Horrible idea, and I'm quite the opposite of a nazi (very far left, very anti-authoritarian, very progressive).

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u/SwitchIsBestConsole Aug 07 '26

Maybe I'm not getting it. Why would it be a bad idea?

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u/Historical_Book2268 Aug 07 '26

First of all, it mirrors actual nazi tactics.

Second of all, who defines a nazi. What's stopping the goverment from expanding into just right leaning people?

Also, it would put nazis in serious danger of physical harm, which is not excusable no matter what you believe.

Third of all, it creates a precedent. If the goverment can force nazis to wear identifying markings, they can do so to other groups.

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u/BurialHoontah Aug 07 '26

“It would put Nazis in serious danger of physical harm, which is not excusable no matter what you believe.”

What was world war 2 about again?

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u/Historical_Book2268 Aug 07 '26

The difference between world War 2 nazis, and now nazis, is that mist of the new existing nazis aren't actively participating in genocides. Furthermore, I'd say stopping the nazis in world war two with lethal force was a necessary evil, as they posed a serios active threat to the world, that could not be solved through other measures. If world War two could be stopped without killing any nazis, that should've been done.

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u/BurialHoontah Aug 07 '26

You can’t be serious.

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u/SwitchIsBestConsole Aug 07 '26

This does not sound good. They killed 6 million people. But you think it's bad to kill even one nazi? Why do you feel that way?

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u/Historical_Book2268 Aug 08 '26

I just said, had there been a way to stop them without killing anyone, that way should've been chosen.

I feel that way because believe any human being, no matter how horrible, has the right to live.

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u/SwitchIsBestConsole Aug 08 '26

I find it disheartening that you are sympathic to nazis. This is why evil people get away with hurting our society. I hope one day you realize this. It's the equivalent of letting joker live just so he can escape the asylum and kill hundreds of people again.

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u/Historical_Book2268 Aug 08 '26

Nazis are human beings just like any other. Not very good human beings.

But they are human beings.

And human beings do not deserve serios danger of physical harm.

Are most of them actively hurting people today? No. And even if, I'd be against putting them in such serios danger. Just put them in prison.

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u/SkuuniX Aug 08 '26

Because the people who live now, didn’t kill 6 million. Those are mostly dead. Here in Germany where they were from, we have very strong rules against discrimination due to our Nazi history. And one big rule is, you are not allowed to discriminate against or even mark a person based on their identity. This applies to simply everyone. Even to modern Nazis, if we like it or not.

If we mark Nazis, who decides who is a Nazi? Why shouldn’t I just say “you are a Nazi” and force you to identify as one if I don’t like you, so leftists try to beat you up?

Marking people as what ever the fuck is a horribly stupid idea, we germans have plenty of experience with that

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u/SwitchIsBestConsole Aug 08 '26

The people who say they are a nazi are the ones that identify as a nazi. For example, the person in the picture very much is a nazi. Pretty obvious. He in fact already labeled himself for us. That is how it's decide. It's a lot simpler than you think.

And if these people are actively siding with monsters who did such a horrible thing, I think it's pretty fair to say they would do those things if they could get away with it. It is odd and disheartening that you are sympathic to nazis.

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u/SkuuniX Aug 09 '26

It’s not that easy. The one in the comic is pretty obvious but they don’t always make it that easy.

I do NOT sympathise with nazis and NEVER did. What is wrong with you?!

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u/SwitchIsBestConsole Aug 09 '26

What is wrong with YOU? There are tons of people who actually call themselves nazis and you're saying we should not discriminate against them? That's like, the one and only time we SHOULD discriminate. But you give off the impression of defending them.

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u/SkuuniX Aug 09 '26

I never said anything like that, you are just interpreting stuff. I do not think we shouldn’t discriminate against nazis, I think we should not mark people based on ideology. And I told you that in the country where the nazis came from, it is even strictly illegal BECAUSE of the nazis. You just don’t want to listen.

You are the best example. You are calling me a nazi sympathiser. So should I be marked in your world? Just because you say so?

Who decides who should wear the nazi badge? And on what basis? Explain that to me. How do you keep sure that no democratic conservatives are being marked as nazi?

Edit: Since you only had superficial criteria up to now. Please google the german politician Björn Höcke for me and tell me if he is a nazi/fascist in your eyes

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u/SwitchIsBestConsole Aug 09 '26

I do not believe you are listening to me. At all. If a person is deliberately saying they are a nazi, such as the person in this post, they are a nazi. I'm not talking about the people that are just racist or the ones who only treat white blonde haired blue eyed women nicely. I'm talking about people who ACTUALLY say yes I am a nazi

Edit: the guy in the post is a good example of someone who is obviously a nazi btw. And you're saying "well what if he isnt" that's why I'm calling you a sympathizer. You are sympathizing with his person are you not?

Do you understand?

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u/SwitchIsBestConsole Aug 07 '26

I think people go a little too far with the what ifs or the "slippery slope" concept. I think it would be pretty easy to say "if you classify yourself as a nazi, you are now marked as one" and leave it at that. This is a hypothetical idea and thus in that hypothetical we can say we should stop it at that.

It's like saying "if we allow abortion, then women are just gonna start killing toddlers" or something. Which we know isn't true. Personally, I think it would be a good idea knowing the nazis are branded. Knowing they can't hide or blend in. They spread hate.