Sick Leave - [OC]

[u/littyart]

[u/maxdps_]

Never worked at a place that gave me PTO and sick time. It's always just been PTO.

[u/ggouge → u/maxdps_]

I get 7 sick days and 15 vacation days plus a solo floater day that I can just use.

[u/DaFreakingFox → u/ggouge]

... Your sick days are limited?

[u/424f42_424f42 → u/DaFreakingFox]

At 100% pay.

Then sort term disability, then long term disability . how much and long for each depends on a lot of things (mine is 90% for 12 weeks, then 50%)

[u/Thuis001 → u/424f42_424f42]

Over here it is 2 years at full pay and they can’t fire you

[u/Scarlet_Lycoris → u/DaFreakingFox]

Utterly confusing to everyone outside of the US. As if people pick when to be sick.

[u/aFreshFix → u/Scarlet_Lycoris]

Nope. Korea is the same way. I got 3 sick days a year. Morocco I get 6 sick days and 4 personal days.

[u/Kessarean → u/DaFreakingFox]

Yep

[u/ggouge → u/DaFreakingFox]

Well I could take more they are just unpaid after that

[u/Akomatai → u/ggouge]

Ha I also get the floating holiday, but it was added because the company didn't want to make a call on whether to give us Columbus Day or Juneteenth.

Also get a Birthday Holiday which is just a floating holiday you can use any work day of your birth month

[u/ggouge → u/Akomatai]

Oh that birthday one is nice I just get a cake. Not on my birthday they just do a cake a month for everyone's birthday

[u/Victor9538 → u/maxdps_]

In California, sick time is required and must be separate from PTO.  Even places that offer “unlimited” PTO have to give you a separate bank of 5 sick days per year.

[u/teaandviolets → u/Victor9538]

That's not really true. You can offer PTO only, but you have to allow it to be used in a way that meets the requirements of CA sick leave law. Source - Am HR in a credit union with PTO. Realistically it's a PITA to do, and we're planning to move to separate Vac/Sick banks soon.

[u/slashinhobo1 → u/teaandviolets]

Its true that by law all employee accurre sick time in CA, but its not true that it has to be seperate. Essentially you can combine pto and sick leave as long as its greater than the 2hrs a paycheck specified in the law. I believe the minimum hrs for sick leave for a FT worker is 40 hrs.

Unlimited pto companies get around it by just saying unlimited pto and sick leave. No matter what, unlimited is a scam.

[u/scruffyJJ561 → u/teaandviolets]

Yeah I was going to say Trader Joe's which is a famously California company, just has PTO but you can use it for sick days if you want

[u/Same-Suggestion-1936 → u/Victor9538]

I mean also just colloquially unpaid time off is sick time. I've never taken PTO because I've never been paid time off. Called in sick though. Some days you just can't do it and if they don't give you paid sick time honestly bet you could get the same job somewhere else by the end of the week if they cared enough to fire you

[u/Southernbeekeeper → u/maxdps_]

This is crazy. I'm in the UK public sector. I get 35 days leave a year (36 next year as I earn a day every year I work here up to 7 years). I also get TOIL and 6 months of full paid sick leave followed by 6 months of half pay.

[u/pseudoportmanteau → u/maxdps_]

Pto and sick time together are definitely both a thing. I worked at a place that offered extremely generous hours for both, the caveat being that we were required to work all holidays and weekends. I really liked that trade off. I legit couldn't even spend all my pto, I always had at least 60 hours spare lol.

[u/maxdps_ → u/pseudoportmanteau]

Oh I know it's a thing, my dad talks about it all the time. It's just wild that I've never had a job that seperates them. It's always just been 1 bank of paid time off which is used for either sick time or vacation.

[u/Eastern-Fudge-6350 → u/maxdps_]

The whole idea of a limited sick time seems barbaric to me. It's not something I can control so why should I be punished for getting sick.

Also spending PTO while being sick is ridiculous. In fact if you get sick while on my PTO you should get your days back.

[u/TheGrymmBladeX → u/maxdps_]

Where I work I get both. PTO gets paid out, Sick leave gets used, donated or lost.

[u/Smile_Space → u/maxdps_]

I'm in a weird spot where as an intern I was hourly and accrued sick time based on state minimums (a California W) but when I converted to full-time I was out on salary and this only get PTO. But, I kept all of my Sick Time and was allowed to use it, so it was basically a free 3 days or so of PTO lolol.