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u/gaegurliepancake 16h ago

we need more sexualized men in media

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u/Dazed_and_Confused44 16h ago

I promise you that sex appeal targeted at women in media exists. This comic is full of shit lol

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u/PashLover 15h ago

Are you sure you understand the comic? Exactly what media depiction of men do you think is the equivalent of how women are constantly sexualized?

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u/jbyrdab 15h ago

Jojo.

I'm rather shocked how little it comes up in this discussion.

It's a running joke in the community that the series does this despite not being gay/yaoi focused media and having like... 4 gay people in the series, both of which die in part 5.

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u/jbyrdab 14h ago

No it's buff men with a body fat percentage of -1, muscles bigger than their head, jawlines harder than diamond, waists and legs that look like they ought to tip over, and a dong bulge that extends several inches from their crotch all wearing clothes that either excentuate their crotch and or ass, leave nothing to the imagination, or aren't wearing anything at all.

But sure let's split hairs. Not like that's the same thing this post is making fun of but on the other side.

Here's this official art of dio from 1990 btw.

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u/iSwearImNotGay_trust 14h ago

People don’t like over sexualizing women because it’s unrealistic and can hurt women’s image and beauty standards.
If you think that these men in Jojo are normal and this is how men look and aren’t over-exaggerated to look hot, then you might be apart of the problem too

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u/FVCarterPrivateEye 14h ago

Yeah, if people really think this is simply "a man in good shape," it's making a lot more sense why eating disorders and BDD in teenage boys receives virtually no resource dedication despite having really comparable rates to teenage girls

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u/aghastamok 11h ago

I once said to my wife "I think my ideal build would be Brad Pitt's when he was in Fight Club" and she goes "Oh, but that's so scrawny. I'd go for something a little bigger like Alan Ritchson."

People seem to have no idea where the standards are for men. I think the manosphere shit that goes around is nonsense but it's these sorts of things that give demagogues hooks into young men.

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u/FunyMonkyh 12h ago

those are NOT just very muscular men. they’re literally all unachievable physiques. all of them have literally perfect no flaw faces and muscles not even steroids could give you. if we want to be nitpicky, jojo’s is just as unrealistic (up until like part 4) as those 38DD breasts.

edit: they also all have 20 inch waists

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u/Environmental-Key439 14h ago

Those are NOT reasonable standards for a man's body. 99% of men couldn't reach those levels of "beauty" even if they trained for decades

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u/Dazed_and_Confused44 15h ago

The point this is attempting to convey is horseshit. Everyone regardless of gender or sexuality is impacted by sex appeal. Its quite literally tied to base instinct, which is why its the oldest marketing trick in the book.

Now you might say men are more susceptible because they have a tendency to think with their dicks sometimes, but sex appeal is absolutely an effective marketing tactic for women.

The best example is the hot muscular old spice dude selling deodorant. Yes its male deodorant, but they werent the target audience. At the time that commercial was made, Old Spice knew that women in the household did the lions share of the grocery shopping. Hence why the commercial starts with "Look at your man. Now look at me. Now back to your man. And back to me". The actor is directly speaking to the women of the household, and that add is not targeted at their spouses, despite the fact they are the end user.

So maybe cut the uneducated virtue signaling

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u/arto64 15h ago

Does the old spice guy wear a banana hammock thong and sticks his crotch out?

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u/Dazed_and_Confused44 15h ago

Just walked off a plane in the Las Vegas airport and saw this within 2 min lol:

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u/Dazed_and_Confused44 15h ago

Hahahahahahahahahaha. You think that the build of those men is not a comparably difficult to achieve body standard to some of the things you mentioned? What a fucking hypocrit. Jesus Christ

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u/PashLover 14h ago

You think that the build of those men is not a comparably difficult to achieve body standard to some of the things you mentioned?

You think women can change the size of their bust or shape of their body? How exactly do you think we would do that without cosmetic surgery?

Being attractive is not the same thing as being objectified. Look at the women drawn in OP's comic. Show me the male equivalent of that, with their sexual characteristics comically exaggerated to be "sexier".

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u/Dazed_and_Confused44 14h ago

The amount your abs show is partially genetic. I had a friend who went the gym 3 times a day and ate a super strict diet. He was in super good shape and clearly very well built. He still didnt have the level of muscle definition in the image I sent, because again the degree to which said muscle tone shows is partially generic.

Im not saying that unrealistic beauty standards are not harmful for women. They absolutely are. Im saying its hypocritical to get tied in a knot about it and then pretend that men dont also get sexualized

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u/PashLover 14h ago

I didn't say men don't ever get sexualized. Neither did the comic. And you're just making yourself look silly. No maybe not every man can get the same level of ripped, but women straight up cannot change the size of their bust.

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u/Kagenlim 14h ago

For some men it's straight as unobtainable tho

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u/Dazed_and_Confused44 12h ago

Im not making myself look silly. You are talking out your ass and virtue signaling

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u/arto64 14h ago

  You think that the build of those men is not a comparably difficult to achieve body standard to some of the things you mentioned?

What does physical effort have to do with the things we’re discussing? Are you just airing some unrelated grievances now?

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u/arto64 14h ago

Where are the thongs or at least crotch cleavage? Shit sucks.

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u/Ransacky 3h ago

Questions. 1. do things and crotch cleavage appeal to women 2. Does what you see look like a realistic standard

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u/Chembaron_Seki 15h ago

Free! (the anime)

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u/PashLover 15h ago

Looking at images online those all just look like exceptionally fit and handsome anime guys. Being attractive is not the same thing as being sexualized.

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u/Chembaron_Seki 15h ago edited 14h ago

The show is very female gaze-y and specifically made to make teenage girls thirst after the cast and relentlessly ship the male characters with each other.

Yes, sexualization for men and women looks different. The average man considers other things attractive than the average woman. And Free! is showcasing this, it is an example of actual male sexualization in media specifically made for women.

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But if you want actual unrealistic depictions of body which border to body horror, I can give examples of this as well.

There is the entire phenomenon called "yaoi hands". Here is an example of it:

Or there also exist manga and anime with absurdly long necks, made for women because they find it attractive. An example of such an anime would be

"Welcome to the ballroom"