r/controlgame • • 18d ago

Control Resonant they nerfed the dash float ability

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Edit: šŸ”»THEY FIXED ITšŸ”»

First clip is on PS5 Pro, in Performance Mode, with contrast at 100% because HDR made it look washed out. It was uploaded to YouTube and then downloaded again, which is why the bitrate isn’t very good.

Second clip is on PC, 1440p, on Ultra settings.

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u/CynetCrawler 18d ago

I hope they updated the Parkour times in SHUM III then because that was the best way to make your way through (or over) some of the obstacles.

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u/reiichiroh 18d ago

Wouldn’t that mean developer times were set with the ā€œbug?ā€

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u/GumGumActV 18d ago

Sadly I think that confirms it’s not a bug

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u/fake_user_34 18d ago

Not really. I think what is happening is the new code that gives an extra charge of rush when you kill an enemy in the air. That is conflicting with some thing

Edit: it's a bug

Not intended. Another issue related to movement was being fixed and then caused this. Change will be reverted.

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u/TallTelevision4121 18d ago

Working in IT, I feel their pain when a change fixes something and screws another.

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u/Usual-Orange-4180 18d ago

That’s like every fix

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u/TallTelevision4121 18d ago edited 18d ago

Working in IT, I feel their pain when a change fixes something and screws another.

Edit: I'm not sure why this got posted twice, but I'm leaving it.

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u/jjolayemi 18d ago

Your comment has been patterned been has comment your.

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u/Alternative-Mood5824 17d ago

A copy of a copy of a copy

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u/aabbccjklo 18d ago

there's a video of a guy doing the central parkour shum in 43 seconds 😭

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u/SadTornado 18d ago

First thing I thought of. Got 55 seconds yesterday and it would be completely impossible without the quickened air dash. Glad to know I'm not going crazy this morning and it should be fixed.

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u/SirDenali 18d ago

Wow that sucks. Hope its unintended, I don't remember reading about that in the patch notes.

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u/Kitchen-Kiwi7942 18d ago

Thats cause it wasnt in the patch notes...

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u/noirproxy1 18d ago

This didn't need to happen. Please undo.

https://giphy.com/gifs/UrJLwPc94TuiyLfovS

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u/MechaZombieCharizard 18d ago

I've been seeing a lot of aabria gifs lately and im super here for it

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u/hardgeeklife 18d ago

More Magic Mommy, More Good

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u/CageAndBale 18d ago

šŸ’Æ % if anything it needed to be better and longer. Traversal is already semi sloggy

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u/naytreox 18d ago

this was THE way to move around in this game, why remove it?

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u/gavinderulo124K 18d ago

Has to be a bug.

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u/naytreox 18d ago

i hope so, non of the patchnotes mention it and many of them have little comments by the dev's so they are attentive to them, so it has to be a bug

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u/glasgowgeg 18d ago

OP drops straight down in the "after" bit, like they've stopped holding forward.

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u/Endura_Tempura 18d ago

I just dropped to my knees at Buc-ee

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u/Stranger_Z 18d ago

Just saw a guy drop to his knees at Buc-ee’s

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u/DangDoubleDaddy 18d ago

Just watched a guy film someone at Buc-ee’s

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u/jaykular 18d ago

Just watched a guy film a guy who dropped to his knees in buc-ees

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u/Brother_Bear_6 17d ago

Just watched a bunch of idiots on the CCTV filming each other while some guy who thought he was the main character dropped to his knees at buc-ee

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u/meshakooo 18d ago

Get me the brisket sandwich while you’re there

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u/Sea-Housing-3435 18d ago

lmao I'm glad I already finished the game, conserving momentum from dashes was one of my favorite ways of moving around

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u/Ploluap 18d ago

and me that was waiting for the game to get better with patches ...

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u/Playful-Ad-6475 18d ago

Same, I was having frame-pacing/FPS and audio issues too. Hoping this update fixed them.

Although I haven't played the game after updating it yet, man, I'm disappointed that some movements are getting nerfed for no reason. :(

Almost wish I hadn't updated the game.

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u/West-Long-7112 18d ago

Its clearly a glitch, you can't reach certain places without the time of the og glide.

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u/jazzsunflower 18d ago

You know what’s funny that on my big screen (pc in the living room) the game runs like ass with the issues youre presenting, but on my main it runs smoothly without issues, my main setup is running linux arch and had none of the issues that windows had, hope they fix it though

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u/Sicklordsolar 18d ago

Don’t know what is up with OP, but I’m playing after patch and traversal is exactly the same for me.

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u/fake_user_34 18d ago

Seems to be a bug only a few are experiencing

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u/iReadBecauseYouDo 17d ago

Considering it’s a bug and they just added significant QoL improvements, you won’t have to worry lol

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u/billyloomisjr 18d ago

That’s weird, it felt like a very natural extension of the rush and a cool little boost that you could get if you were speedy enough :(

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u/Resevil67 18d ago

Oof wtf? I'm actually kind of hoping this is a bug and not intended. Your right I just tried it and it completely disables rush if you are in the levitate state now. This is actually kind of dumb and makes Dylan feel way weaker, and makes areas like the underpass a much more pain in the ass to get around now.

Why the fuck would they do this? I really love this game but now it seems like remedy might go around and fuck this up that didn't need "fixing". Very annoying.

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u/Lenin-C 18d ago

Im guessing its a bug because even their trailers and gameplay feature the carried momentum, i hope they're aware

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u/serwaffle 18d ago

Has to be, the game even teaches you to use it for that extra momentum to cross big gaps in the fault where you learn it. Hopefully it’s fixed soon.

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u/EPIC_RAPTOR 18d ago

Can you even cross that gap now?

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u/Kitchen-Kiwi7942 18d ago

Be pretty fucking funny if you cant now...

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u/Asiion1347 18d ago

Can't even eat the damn delicious Mold to progress The Park now
Let alone this Rush Float bug

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u/Kitchen-Kiwi7942 18d ago

Damn they really did fuck up this update

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u/flying-sheep 18d ago

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u/Resevil67 18d ago

Thanks! Good to hear it's not intended and the devs already know about it. There seems to be a few bugs in this update. Lots of people reporting fucked quests now, and I myself have experienced some weird bugs with the combat iclve not seen before.

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u/serwaffle 18d ago

Haven’t been able to test myself but another post said ignite is now active for way less time too. Ima just skip this patch for the next hotfix methinks

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u/SHansen45 18d ago

holy hell i thought i was hallucinating, just finished playing and absolutely felt ignite burned faster than before

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u/TheRealMizo 18d ago

Yeah I’ve felt that too. Feels much shorter

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u/Wilsonian81 18d ago

Good! I was fighting Hadron Parallel this morning and kept falling into the void, and I couldn't figure out why...

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u/Inkpendude 18d ago

Pretty sure it's a bug because I'm trying it now and it's normalĀ 

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u/Ruffiangruff 18d ago

That's gonna make the Shum races impossible

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u/gavinderulo124K 18d ago

Yeah. This needs a hotfix.

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u/VinnyLux 18d ago

This tech doesn't make you faster, it just allows you to keep altitude, which you don't ever need in normal platforming neither the Shum races. The races give you a lot of leeway to beat the 1st place.

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u/KnowMatter 18d ago

Mastering this tech is literally the only way to do them they are 100% impossible now.

Edit: apparently they increased the times implying this is an intentional change. Why? WTH.

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u/NovelExamination5431 18d ago

It’s not intentional they came out and said it was a bug

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u/Dogg0ne 18d ago

I loved roaming around the city with that tech

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u/Anon_1604 18d ago

Still doable, double jumps and dashes are still plenty quick and if you need the distance you can float first and then cover the gap with your dash as soon as you know you can make the distance.

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u/_judgement- 18d ago

they reduced the highest score time to balance it out

an odd choice for sure

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u/apolojesus 18d ago

There's more than one?

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u/VinnyLux 18d ago

Yes, one in Central, one in the final zone

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u/Syranth 18d ago

And forget chasing a stroller.

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u/Captain_Jackson 18d ago

Confirmed to be a bug by Remedy staff on Resetera's forum. So it will be fixed.

thank god, it's so ass.

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u/redditbro91 18d ago

Wow, that really sucks. We need to make sure to let the devs know this isn't what we want.

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u/fake_user_34 18d ago

They know now, it is a bug.

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u/redditbro91 18d ago

Whew, glad to hear it. Hopefully we get a hot fix in the coming days.

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u/Sventhetidar 18d ago

This HAS to be a bug. I didn't even realize this before so I guess it doesn't change much, but there is no reason to change this. The way it was before looks like a smaller scale of what I'd imagine a mistborn coin jumping looks like.

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u/eXclurel 18d ago

It's definitely a bug because there are places in the game you can not access without this ability.

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u/hovsep56 18d ago

welp fighting arial enemies just got worse i suppose

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u/Doomdae 18d ago

Bet money this is a bug. Remedy is not about getting in the way of fun. Im sure they will fix it.

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u/AgentJackpots 18d ago

I'm going to guess this is a bug, because that doesn't look intentional

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u/Ricko9595 18d ago

I hope they revert this change ASAP

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u/zoufantastical 18d ago

Just tagged the communications director on Twitter. Hopefully they look into this because this changes A LOT of how we can traverse within the game not to mention affect how we play those parkour levels on shum.

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u/NEXUS_FROM_DEIMOS 18d ago

I’m sorry but I can’t see the difference can someone explain

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u/CrazyEyes326 18d ago

Previously, if you were using Rush before levitating, the levitation would preserve your forward momentum and you'd travel further. They changed it so that levitation slows you back down to regular running speed.

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u/kmcdow 18d ago

This update really broke some stuff, also broke the park resonant mold eating quest for myself and many others

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u/JohnnyShekels 18d ago

Same here, I can't progress.

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u/polp54 18d ago

I think this might be a glitch as I’m pretty sure you need this to complete some power core puzzles

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u/Kitchen-Kiwi7942 18d ago

You need it in order to cross the giant gap in the first fault

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u/polp54 18d ago

So what I’m hearing is that I shouldn’t start a new game plus today

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u/Kitchen-Kiwi7942 18d ago

Def start and see if its possible to cross the gap. Ng+ is saved in a seperate spot than your main save

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u/kerriganfan 18d ago

its not momentum, rushing is the sprint status which is also applied in the air. from this video it looks like elevate is killing rush for some reason, which is going to make navigation in some areas impossible

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u/OrdinaryAWE 18d ago

I think you NEED the full distance when you first unlock the ability right? Surely this is a bug….

Hopefully.

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u/Hatjin 18d ago

Can't have shit in FBC

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u/Arktos22 18d ago

I don’t get it? Does it not last as long or something?

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u/XxTombraiderfanxX 18d ago

Yes it's shorter

Which makes traversals "harder" in terms of distance

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u/SecondTheThirdIV 18d ago

This has to be a mistake

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u/Blackthorne1998 18d ago

I've just noticed a bug where if you have auto rush enabled in options, dashing twice in a row quickly, turns the second dash into this useless movement that also doesn't trigger auto rush. Almost feels like the auto rush has turned into a toggle of some sorts. This is on xbox

Edit: disabling auto rush seems to have fixed it, which is abit annoying but oh well

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u/SignificantFig1493 18d ago

Damn wtf, ima wait til they fix this, I need that dash for combat lol

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u/Hini-kuna 18d ago

Does it kill moment that much? It looks so unnatural now by comparison That's a big shame I hope this gets reversed

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u/DarekLeSecond 18d ago

It's not in the patch not so I think it's either a bug or somethîg the patch did accidentally

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u/TheBugThatsSnug 18d ago

I know that this is confirmed to be a bug, but what is with people thinking that single player games should be omitted from having balance?

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u/Assassin21BEKA 18d ago

I never understood that. Limitations are not always bad. They are also important to create challenges you need to overcome.

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u/ForYThoo 18d ago

I agree with your point, but in this particular case, what are they balancing? Is this even practical in combat outside of running away?

Genuinely asking because as fun as the game is, there's a ton of mindless running from point A to B, especially before you get some of the other traversal options. Just seems silly to nerf something like this.

I didn't even know this was a thing so I'm curious what people were using it for that Remedy felt it needed a patch. Maybe people were sequence breaking? Or it broke the engine in some way?

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u/iPlayViolas 18d ago

There are a few resonant fights that become completely worthless when you can just float dash over to the boss…

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u/Haonenene 18d ago

Yo remedy wtf. Why nerf something in a single player game ?. Like that is the favorite way for players to move around

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u/flying-sheep 18d ago

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u/Jealous-Knowledge-56 18d ago

Thanks. I was playing last night and something definitely felt off and general bouncing around seemed harder/less useful. Glad I wasn’t going crazy.

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u/apf6 18d ago

if it was intentional, it could be because there were some gaps that they didn't want you to be able to jump across, and it was skipping/trivializing some sections.

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u/IndividualSituationK 18d ago

who cares?

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u/Shucked 18d ago

Aparently the game designer.

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u/Stepjam 18d ago

The game designers who want the game to be experienced a certain way. Especially if it's potentially game breaking.

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u/thalandhor 18d ago

Because they made an entire game on top of the concept of unlocking new traversal abilities. If you can trivialize a bunch of stuff with a simple trick available from the beginning of the game it completely defeats it's own purpose.

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u/I_DRINK_GENOCIDE_CUM 18d ago

That behavior is intended. They designed the game around you being able to move like that. It's explained in the tutorial.

New movement is a bug.

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u/Alastor3 18d ago

you get downvoted but you are right

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u/4rcher91 18d ago

Ngl the first one looks like Obi Wan is practicing his Force Speed.

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u/GATO-PIANO 18d ago

why would they do that? Dylan's mobility is one of the best things in the game and they are nerfing that?

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u/Lostboxoangst 18d ago

You are right I just double checked I hadnt up dated yet you loose the length of an entire dodge in flight length.

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u/Chmigdalator 18d ago

Hmm. I get it about this. It seemed bugged. You could run effortlessly between chasms and buildings. However, I still want to be able to change my primary, secondary and combo with directional buttons or something.

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u/Thatoneguy567576 18d ago

I was wondering why traversal felt different today.

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u/Nazzul 18d ago

Anyway to not let the game update on steam so I can play the pre-patched version?

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u/Konrow 18d ago

Offline mode would be your only hope I think. If you've patched already though, nothing you can do.

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u/Nazzul 18d ago

It has an update pending, I wonder if I can switch to offline mode and play it. Ill have to try when I can tonight

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u/Faded1974 18d ago

How the fuck are you supposed to make some of these jumps now?

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u/Celeste7- 18d ago

Damn this actually lame as hell

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u/ghostsquadd 18d ago

Interesting. I just played for 2 hours and never noticed a difference.

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u/SevenElevenSandwich 18d ago

If I am not mistaken. If you have the PS App on your phone, all PS5 screenshots and recordings under 3 minutes can automatically be uploaded into the phone app, and you can download it on ur phone.

Clips transferred this way will not have the HDR washed out look issue. I believe this is because they converted it into MP4 before transferring to the phone, while they kept the HEVC version if you’re uploading it to YouTube.

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u/InteractionPerfect88 18d ago

They have confirmed it was a bug.

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u/ininja2 18d ago

Not good. Bad. Problem

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u/pauserror 18d ago

This sucks lol

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u/ApartSale9203 18d ago

Fix this shit remedy, please!!!!!

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u/SalemWolf 18d ago

Wild how people are so confident they nerfed it and that it’s not a bug. People are so quick to be pessimistic. Like damn, relax. It’s a bug.

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u/fake_user_34 18d ago

Could be a bug

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u/veerag 18d ago

I played on day one-two on PC, but i had to put it down due to sickness for a few days. I played again a while ago and i noticed this too. It used to be just like on PS. 🤨 I thought i hallucinated the whole thing, so thanks for confirming my suspicions.

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u/saile1004 18d ago

Confirmed to be a bug.

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u/General-Naruto 18d ago

AAAAH BRIG IT BACK

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u/UpsetPause5613 18d ago

Please be a bug

Already bought it to support remedy but im wanting, big backlog and looks like some patches would be cool

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u/barnabywombat 18d ago

It still looks like [prototype] with 2026 grfx

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u/Syranth 18d ago

And that's not a bad thing.

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u/kigafire 17d ago

Find it funny how the amount of people in the comments treat this like it's an intentional thing that developers implement after their patch. Straight doomer mentality. I played the game right after the patch and I saw no difference in the rush glide at all. But I have notice people report that sometimes it's doesn't work like It use to. In then saw developers talk about this said "nerf" is a current bug plus other things. Sometimes patches have unintentional effects that is nothing new when it comes to patches. As long as the developers acknowledge it and hotfix it in a reasonable time that's all that matters.

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u/Lore-tism 17d ago

I couldn't do it after the new patch, and then this morning a new new patch came in and I can do it again. Remedy is so quick with it.

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u/wjbonne 18d ago

If this is on the pc as well... it may be the first time I install mods for a game not yet finished for the first time.

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u/Toppoppler 18d ago

I got the weapon swap mod and it rules

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u/Braunb8888 18d ago

What about the sound problem tho? Some people are losing weapon sounds completely.

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u/Toppoppler 18d ago

oh damn i havent had that, if I did I would uninstall it. It rules but its not required

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u/Creative_Room6540 18d ago

Unrelated but I'm glad I went PC on this release. That difference is notable though I guess it could be upload quality or something why it's such a night and day difference.

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u/totoiam 18d ago

Just fell to my knees at the Old Gods of Asgards concert.

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u/DinerEnBlanc 18d ago

I'm pretty sure this is a bug. There's also a bug that breaks the main questline within the park. How is Remedy vetting these patches cause these are 2 major bugs.

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u/Biichimspiderman 18d ago

Damn I just picked up this game. wtf lol

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u/Argentina4Ever 18d ago

This change is horrible, they must revert it back, that was the best way of moving around. A definitive L by Remedy

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u/huncherbug 18d ago

When did they do this i played it yesterday and it didnt feel anywhere near as short

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u/XxTombraiderfanxX 18d ago

They released a update today

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u/huncherbug 18d ago

If its really that short it would be impossible to get past certain areas in the gap and stuff what are they thinking. Thank god i beat the game twice over already

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u/Emotional_Tampon5 18d ago

Is that a mod outfit? Or is that in the game? The one in the second clip

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u/CarfireOnTheHighway 18d ago

Outfit you get for finishing the main story :)

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u/alwayswannapoop 18d ago

Certainly a bug.

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u/sydchotic 18d ago

Okay, it wasn’t just me, my mans is really not moving the same! I hope it’s unintentional because this tripped up my traversal a lot, the first way is much more fun too.

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u/Feather_Sigil 18d ago

It's a known issue, they'll fix it.

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u/argyleredditusername 18d ago

bad bad bad bad bad why nerf this is not an online game make it fun not balanced

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u/Scrubs137 18d ago

This change sucks...

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u/Geene_Creemers 18d ago

Damn! I thought it felt different!

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u/masterchief0213 18d ago

Yeah this is why I'm waiting a few months to get this. I'd rather the game I'm playing through not suddenly dramatically change halfway through. Can we go back to releasing finished games please?

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u/Fynity 18d ago

Glad I saw this. Think I’ll be holding out on updating then. Traversal abilities being removed from games make it feel soooooo much worse every time (I know it’s a bug so I’ll just wait to update until they fix it).

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u/Galaksee 18d ago

It's because people were using this to skip/reach areas that weren't intended to be reached yet. I did it several times.

Still dumb to change because, who cares??

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u/Relative_Soft_551 18d ago

Definitely a bug, i lucked out and the patch didn't mess up my save on xbox, ive been using those abilities just fine.

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u/JohnnyShekels 18d ago

Right so they will fix something that wasn't spoiling the game at all, yet the park resonant quest is still bugged?

Greatಠ⁠_⁠ಠ

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u/badfruit01 18d ago

nah this cannot be intended it's gotta come back

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u/MidnightMoney3835 18d ago

Its a bug. It isnt on patch notes. Hope they fix it

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u/Dexyu 18d ago

eeewwwww why...

glad i finished the game already.

Are they trying to slow people down what was the problem with it?

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u/AdvisorFew7735 18d ago

It’s a bug

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u/Togohoe 18d ago

Oh so that's why I had trouble chasing an altered object today, bummer

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u/Grade_A_Tech 18d ago

You were having too much fun

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u/Dontbetoxik 18d ago

Is there a way to revert the patch on Steam until they fix the bug? I’d rather keep movement the same than all the changes made so far

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u/Gobby-TheGoblin 18d ago

Yea I use that constantly to get around faster/ creatively parkour up buildings. I won't be downloading the update for a good while.

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u/Acrobatic_Ad_2621 18d ago

Wow, game looks so smoother with more than 20 fps...

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u/d00dieman 18d ago

The question is. As a whole should I update or not

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u/ShotLet1550 18d ago

Most likely because of stuff like this cheese I found

https://www.reddit.com/r/ControlResonant/s/Pi84dutjic

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u/Celeste7- 18d ago

Not fuckin with this one remedy šŸ‘€

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u/Remarkable_Welcome_8 18d ago

Did they patched the changing outfit when you go to downtown? That shit pisses me off

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u/Inside_Comparison_14 18d ago

Really? I didn’t notice 🧐

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u/lLygerl 18d ago edited 18d ago

Couldn't see it at first. Rush is shorter in air.

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u/Algid_Curiosity 18d ago

Please let it be a bug. Please fix it. It was so satisfying.

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u/Ryotian 18d ago

I'm attempting to rollback my game to Sept 24 and lock future updates. will just try to hurry up and finish

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u/earl088 17d ago

I didn't notice there was a patch so I was like why do I now drop like a rock :/

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u/Loicrekt 17d ago

WTF why?

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u/F0t0gy 17d ago

SO I WASN'T TRIPPING WHEN I COULDN'T MAKE JUMPS AS USUAL

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u/blueskythlikesclouds 17d ago

A new hotfix patch just got released on Steam, this is now fixed!

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u/friciwolf 17d ago

They've fixed it! Update is out!

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u/ditharia 17d ago

It seems like they fixed it, but now the controller issue came back. Anyone replicate this? Try starting a game before the controller is on, and see if it works?

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u/-ComplexSimplicity- 17d ago

Yeah, definitely not gonna beat the Shüm parkour challenge.

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u/PleasantFarmHand 16d ago

glad i pirated it then