r/darwin • u/Sufficient-Bird-2760 • 7d ago
Locals Discussion Cyclone pickup - council responses to public questions
The unconfirmed Minutes of the September council meeting are now out and two public questions were asked with both being about the Cyclone pickup. This in addition to Laurie Zio's petition.
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u/Open-Collar 7d ago
Like the French farmer's, maybe time for Darwinians to dump everything in front of the council offices.
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u/Sufficient-Bird-2760 7d ago
Or on the Lord Mayor's verge. After all, only 10% is a problem. Never mind that 10% is 80 tonnes of rubbish.
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u/Fresh_Cabinet5048 7d ago
Cant... no parkong at the Council offices till the massive new DCOH Palace is built!
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u/Bitter_Release_7633 7d ago
It's a sad day when Palmerston has a better council.
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u/Sufficient-Bird-2760 7d ago
Athina PB seems to be doing a good job.
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u/alone_writing_ 7d ago
LOL hardly
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u/Robnotbadok 6d ago
Better than the previous council that was sacked, was also re elected with 80% of the vote. Her council also managed post Fina clean up with much more efficiency than Darwin. Palmo council has also managed to afford a pre cyclone clean up that is nearly complete now. Palmo is not the shitfight in this comparison.
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u/Bitter_Release_7633 7d ago
I don't know about her and am not willing to find out. however I am curious why you think that. care to explain?
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u/Lost-Competition8482 7d ago
I've never seen a council speed run themselves into getting voted out at the next election as this one.
Hard (cyclone) rubbish collection is a normal service provided by almost all other metro councils in the country. Some offer it twice per year.
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u/Fresh_Cabinet5048 7d ago
Should also have a clean out of the incompetence of whatever Executive Manager put this on the table... staggering arrogance pervades that building
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u/No-Public2533 7d ago
I’m sorry. But too many people abuse this service. It’s a pre cyclone clean up but people are putting out crap that is in the house and wouldn’t be a concern in a cyclone. I am a born a bred Darwinite who grew up in the northern suburbs and year after year saw people taking the piss with crap they put on the verge to be collected.
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u/throwaway8675-309 7d ago
No offense (maybe full offense idk) but I don't think you are from Darwin if you call yourself a Darwinite. That's what southerners call us and I hate that term.
But also, you're just plain wrong. Are you trying to do damage control for the council? You realise trees were uprooted in Fina? A similar cyclone can easily fuck a couch off into outer space depending on the couch.
If someone pays rates to have their stuff dumped for a cyclone cleanup, the city puts out a list of acceptable things to dump anyway. You know what the workers do to stuff that's not on the list? They leave it there.
Your claims about people "abusing" the cyclone cleanup are just plain false. I don't know enough about you to decide whether they're intentionally false or just misguided.
Sincerely, someone born and bred in the Northern Suburbs.
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u/No-Public2533 6d ago
I was born in the Darwin private hospital delivered by dr Mounsey. What do you call yourself? Are you born and bred here
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u/Bitter_Release_7633 7d ago
Who gives a fuck. people pay their council rates and it gives people and opportunity to get rid of their bullshit. Most of the shit people out out gets reused by others who may want it taking it. I really don't see a net negative the dump is free for residents anyway it's just another community service. in different cities in the eastern states they do an annual cleanup just because they can. They have the budget they're just being stingy.
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u/_pewpew_pew 7d ago
I think the clean up should continue but I agree that some people take the piss. I saw one house had rubbish that covered the verge the entire length of their property, and from the road all the way back to their fence. The amount that was there was ridiculous.
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u/yehyehwut 5d ago
Saw similar in my street in Palmerston. I like Palmerston but that house is literally the definition of dump. The actual dump is 5 minutes from anywhere in Palmerston and you don't even need a stupid chip like Darwin you just show your ID with your address.
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u/_pewpew_pew 5d ago
There was a hoarder house in my street and I thought the same, the Darwin tip is right there, just take it all. When the woman was evicted (I think it was a commission house) she would visit the junk and sit outside the locked fence. It was eventually cleaned and new people are in there.
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u/Sufficient-Bird-2760 7d ago
Are you sure that some of the neighbours didn't put their stuff there too to make it easier for the truck?
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u/No-Public2533 7d ago
You just explained why it shouldn’t be continued. Too many people are abusing the service and it is costing far more than what is costed in the budget. Then people complain why the rates go up
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u/_pewpew_pew 7d ago
It does balance out though. I live in a large unit complex (15+ units) and we put out what an average house puts out, some places don’t put anything out, and some go overboard. I think the ones that go overboard should be charged additional dumping fees.
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u/Sufficient-Bird-2760 7d ago
So what kind of things do you consider crap?
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u/No-Public2533 7d ago
Couch’s, tv’s tall boys, fridges, should I continued?
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u/Sufficient-Bird-2760 7d ago
I'm just looking at the City of Melbourne website and they give residents the option of one square metre to be collected each year. This is their list of acceptable things: old tins, scrap iron, steel and other waste metal products (including barbecues) pottery and chinaware sheet glass which is securely wrapped and clearly marked as 'glass' mattresses small rugs (no more than 1.5 m long) – rolled and taped and tied e-waste of all sizes and types household appliances (such as refrigerators, dishwashers, stoves and washing machines (doors removed) televisions, videos, air conditioners, mowers, etc.) household furniture tools & equipment toys, bicycles and sporting equipment timber less than 1 m in length, maximum of 10 pieces per Premises hot water units similar materials generally of a household nature.
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u/Dane083-01 7d ago
I own a house in Brisbane and a house in Darwin. For Brisbane we get a council run waste collection each year, for roughly the same rates. For Darwin we get processes that we shouldn’t pay for, including the “sprouting the economy” BS post covid and all their junket flights. It disgusts me how often you see councillors sitting in business class with their paid lackey, knowing we have inadvertently paid for it too.
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u/Fresh_Cabinet5048 7d ago
The incompetence and arrogance of the council members is only matched by the General and Executive Managers ar City of Darwin
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u/throwaway8675-309 7d ago
So hang on...
Rates go up by the most they've ever gone up in years, a new council building is being done up, parking fees increase, councillors get a payrise, annual allowance increases since 2021, and the council CUTS services like the annual cyclone clean-up which was surely in the budget for the last, idk, 20 or so years?
Makes sense.