r/diablolore • u/ndjskajhwb • Sep 02 '24

is the wonderer as strong as a nephalim?

i’ve read up on the lore recently and i’m not sure if i’m missing something; but lilith was stronger than the nephalim, no? or did she lose power somehow? If the wonderer was able to defeat lilith, which the nephalim couldn’t do, does that not make the wonderer stronger than the nephalim?

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '24

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u/Etzello Sep 02 '24

Is retcon between d3 and 4 or was it a different time?

Also, were nephalem descended from angels and demons pre or post retcon or were they always?

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u/Etzello Sep 02 '24

Ah ok thanks, does that in a sense make the diablo 2 player characters nephalem too?

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u/Mr_Jake_E_Boy Apr 21 '25

Who put it back after Uldyssian destroyed it? Or did he just alter it, I'm a little foggy.

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u/Durin1987_12_30 Nov 20 '24

Wanderer, Nephilim.

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u/ndjskajhwb Nov 20 '24

fat, neckbeard

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u/Durin1987_12_30 Nov 21 '24

salty, illiterate

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '25

Well, the wanderer needed Akarat's help to defeat Mephisto's herald, whereas the nephalim defeated all 7 of the evils rolled into one, and then defeated malthael while he was wielding the power of all 7 evils plus the souls of 90% of sanctuary, without any help.

So it seems to be no contest.