Random question but does anyone know why Kim Carlsson has beef with peste noire?

[u/LongjumpingMine560]

I run on the spectrum unfortunately, my apologies for the unnecessary question. I don't think it's a political reason since Kim is pretty much apolitical in that kind of way. I'm pretty curious if anyone knows about this. I know he used to work with Audrey on Horns Emerging and heard he was friends with Famine (not sure), I think he has some kind of beef with one of them. Saw a post about someone getting spit at by Kim and drawn over their vest in March on Kall tour for wearing a kpn patch. Anyone has any information about this?

[u/lilcrispyforehead]

Tbh it’s definitely political lol

[u/LongjumpingMine560 → u/lilcrispyforehead]

He always wears that one boyd rice shirt, I doubt he cares. He doesn't seem to have beef with other nsbm associated projects either.

+Woods of infinity made releases on his record label, they even made an unreleased split with Hypothermia and he is still friends with Ravenlord (not sure)

[u/Round_Revenue7878 → u/LongjumpingMine560]

plenty of left leaning people are a fan of boyd rice. boyd's music isnt full on nazi shit like peste noire's music is. other musicians who KNEW boyd rice even say that he isnt truly a nazi or white supremacist. he's mainly obsessed with anything taboo, the occult, shocking people&the attention that comes with it, fetishizing nazi aesthetics, and the dark fringes of society. he's a contrarian. he likely had some sort of core right wing beliefs, but i don't think he was a nazi in the truest most passionate sense like actual nsbm bands.

[u/LongjumpingMine560 → u/Round_Revenue7878]

I am aware that shock value and taboo subjects are awake and someone can see an interest in it, I'm not saying that Kim takes it seriously I just wanted to make a point that Kim is most likely ignorant (in a good way) towards these topics.

[u/scvmbaby]

Would be kind of silly to get fussy over a patch when they were supposed to play at steelfest this year. Though that gig got cancelled just 30min before showtime. Allegedly because someone from the band overdosed

[u/LongjumpingMine560 → u/scvmbaby]

I think I know what you are talking about. Was it the time when he posted a story about it on Instagram? I was wondering what happened. If we are thinking about the same thing then, thank you for telling me because I was wondering.

[u/scvmbaby → u/LongjumpingMine560]

Yeah in May. I was there when they cancelled and people started talking about the overdose, but of course that’s not confirmed information. Just something that was circling at the venue when they cancelled

[u/dimiteddy]

well if its true, its another reason to respect Kim. I was very disappointed reading the harassment claims from some chinese fans.

[u/LongjumpingMine560 → u/dimiteddy]

I do agree, I respect him for doing this too. For what you said, speaking of his allegations: Same happened back too then, it's pretty surprising except that because the Chinese fans were adults while the posts called Kim a pedo, probably coming from the old incident when he didn't pay his bandmate and the guy made claims about Kim which weren't true. I don't take sides about that since nobody provided actual evidence.

[u/_JesusDesu_]

I don't know who Kim is, but anyone who doesn't like Nazis is an ally.

[u/AlarmedSense3040 → u/[deleted]]

lame comment. someone isn't a poser for disliking nazis. Black metal doesn't = nazism. You're the poser try-hard

[u/LongjumpingMine560 → u/AlarmedSense3040]

I don't think they meant that the person above not being a nazi means they are a poser, I think they meant the fact that the person said they don't know Kim (which in conversations under was proven that it was just language barrier)

[u/AlarmedSense3040 → u/LongjumpingMine560]

Not knowing Kim doesn’t make someone a poser anyway. If you’re that defensive in how ‘trve’ you are, you most likely don’t give a shit about the actual music or actually supporting the musicians 

[u/Round_Revenue7878 → u/[deleted]]

being a nazi is not a requirement for being a black metal enjoyer lol. holy shit. are you 14? putting money on you being latino too 😂

[u/_JesusDesu_ → u/[deleted]]

Are you in 2010, bro?

[u/_JesusDesu_ → u/[deleted]]

Or is just mentally retarded? I know who Kim is as a vocalist, but not his personal opinions. I only listen to his music; I'm not a fanatical fanboy who would give him my ass.

[u/_JesusDesu_ → u/[deleted]]

Language barrier

I said that I don't know Kim in terms of his opinions, I know about the band, I know he's a vocalist, that's all that's necessary.

I've read other comments about some accusations and I don't know anything about this, but one thing I will say: I HATE NAZIS.

[u/blveeyedboi → u/_JesusDesu_]

but one thing I will say: I HATE NAZIS

who doesn't?

[u/Round_Revenue7878 → u/blveeyedboi]

clearly not competitive_walk2861. lol

[u/blveeyedboi → u/Round_Revenue7878]

Don't think so, it's just a super performative thing to declare.

[u/amputated-toes]

damn that makes me sad, i love both of them