Little something I've been working on, what do y'all think? Maybe this can be the first step to making this device somewhat useful again.

You may have heard about the team at Dumb Co by now. Over the last few months, I have gotten to know them with each visit and it is amazing to see them growing from their previous small office to this amazing new bigger DC office space.

The team is working hard at implementing feature requests, improving their software, and maybe (soon) launching new ideas out there into the world. I got to see some of the following:

• Alarms improvements
• Accessibility features
• New Smart Music Spotify Integration
• Cool gadgets that they are playing with
• Future International phones
• Overall speed improvements of the software

They are hiring new folks to come into their team, so if you want to be involved with them, check out their job listings. It is inspiring to see all generations working together against smartphone dependency. Job portal: https://app.joinhandshake.com/public/jobs/11487453?

As always, if you haven't checked out their product, here is a link with a special discount for the subreddit: https://buy.stripe.com/5kQbIU5hC1QK1jd50k8N20R

And if you have any questions, please drop them below and I'll try to get to as many as I can. I really think they deserve their latest 2026 greatest invention award from Time Magazine and I can't wait for you all to see their future plans in 2027!

1. There is a simple economic reason why: scaling. The makers here are smaller companies and operate in a niche market. They cannot secure massive bulk discounts for components. HMD-Nokia is the only exception (but they don't make basic Androids!).
2. Also, the big makers like Samsung and Motorola get subsidy from data and ad revenue, which means they can sell budget or midrange smartphones for very cheap. A phone meant to be digitally minimalist can never have that by design.
3. If you're already used to having iPhone or S series Galaxy, then you really shouldn't complain about an expensive dumbphone. Yes it's expensive for the specs, that is true. But you are not just paying for the phone, you are paying for your sanity. And that alone is worth it.

hey hey! i’m an intern at dumb.co, and this is my dp2 setup. u can add a case at checkout, or there's also some on ebay. i went with the yellow

what other case color would u guys want to see?

I wanted big tiles on my tiny phone without giving up the apps, so I wrote a launcher for it

This is my Unihertz Jelly 2 with its 3 inch screen. I wanted a home screen on it with large tiles that are easy to hit and read, but still a phone where WhatsApp or maps are one tap away.

So I built HomeTiles and the picture is my own home screen. Every tile can be an app, a contact, a shortcut, a widget or a folder. You pick how many fit on a page. The dialler, messages and contacts are part of the same app, so they look the same as the home screen instead of dropping you back into the stock apps.

A few things that might matter here:

• Everything works with arrow keys, a select key and number keys, so it should be usable on Android keypad phones too. I've only tested that with key events and not on a real keypad phone yet. If someone has a Qin F21, a Titan or something similar I'd like to hear how it goes.
• No internet permission, no account and no ads.
• Labels shrink before they get cut off.
• There's an SOS tile that texts up to five people and then opens the keypad with the number in it. It never calls by itself.

It's free, GPL-3.0 and on F-Droid. Android 8 or newer.

F-Droid: https://f-droid.org/packages/dev.kicker.hometiles/ Source and more screenshots: https://github.com/timkicker/hometiles

I was on the search for a dumb phone and had planned to buy the dumber mini initially but it was on back order until March by the time I had pre-ordered and so ended up cancelling. I wanted something sooner to help with my phone addiction and so I watched a few reviews and saw the jelly star come up a few times and decided to just buy it and give it a try. This is my initial impressions 2 weeks in.

Tldr; I laughed when I pulled this phone out of the box. The video reviews don't do it justice with how small it really is. I'm happy with the phone because it is serving its main purpose of decreasing my mindless scrolling and constant habitual phone checking. I'm already noticing less time spent staring at my phone and more time doing other things like reading on my kindle, being present with family, taking care of tasks I need to do rather than procrastinating, and being more motivated to leave the house.

Disclaimer: I am not only using this tiny 3 inch phone but I also use oasis launcher which is very minimalist and I have NO social media apps installed on the phone.

Pros:

• Biggest one is it is super small and portable, can easily fit in my pockets, super easy to use with one hand, and the size of the screen also is the major driver of preventing a ton of mindless phone use. Some reviewers list this as a con (which I think is kind of silly given that's the whole point of the phone) but for the dumb phone community it is a major strength. Times I've found myself scrolling on youtube have never lasted more than a few minutes on this device because I start to get some strain from staring at a small screen. For someone who was super sucked into scrolling without even realizing it this has served as an excellent negative reinforcement and forces me to be more conscious of what I use my phone for. My kindle and tablet have seen a lot more use the past 2 weeks and I am much less likely to get distracted on those devices.
• Battery has been good, easily lasts me all day but typically charge it at night or in the morning. It charges really quickly.
• Since it is running android 16 it has everything you might need for the modern world and runs them fine for the most part. I use google maps, google wallet for tap to pay, whatsapp all without major issues.
• Storage is great, 256 gb and micro SD expansion available.
• Comes with a case and a screen protector pre installed and an extra replacement screen protector (I didn't realize there was one alraedy on the phone and wasted the extra by accidentally placing it on top of the pre-installed one so dont make the same mistake as me).

Things that could be Pro/Con depending on your use case

• This is a +/- since if you use swiping to type or speech to text it is a non issue (I use swipe and it works great). But if you type the regular way it is a lot harder to type on this phone and youll likely rely on auto correct more.
• It has intermittently frozen on me briefly, brief hiccups here and there, or run hot once or twice without a clear cause. Its a 200 dollar phone with a lot of bang for the buck squeezed into a small body so not super surprised. These things have only served to help me decrease use even more which is what I want so not a big deal to me and 95% of the time no issues. It does make me worry a little bit about the longevity of the phone though but seems like they honor their 1 year warranty for manufacture failures from what I was reading.
• Camera: for me this is a pro but if you like super pretty, ultra processed photos the camera will be a con for you. I like the nostalgic feel the camera has. I feel like the photos look more realistic to me. I also stopped taking pictures of every little thing (which I rarely look back at) and just taking photos when I actually want a memory. I have a young child and if he is moving too fast it will blur the photo though so that may be a con for some. The video quality is also not very great but not a negative for me given its still functional enough for me to not need a separate camera.
• The phone stands out, you will likely get questions about it. I don't mind this too much but I could see it being annoying if you are really introverted or don't like any attention drawn to yourself.

Cons

• No e-sim, had to go in to T-mobile to get a physical sim card (which was free since I already had an account with them)
• Service seems weaker than my galaxy s25 I am coming from. Places I typically would have 1-2 bars I struggle to get service and placed I'd have full bars seems to sometimes be full but sometimes drops a bar. Still works well enough and usually when in a place without service I have wifi and has been fine but something to think about if you are in a place with poor service in general.
• No 5g although honestly 4g has been plenty fast enough for what I am using this phone for anyways. Haven't tried the hot spot much so can update about that more.
• Probably won't get anymore updates or software support after android 16 but to me this is not a big deal. I used to be obsessed with having the latest updates previously but realized it rarely ever makes a major difference in how I use my phone and is usually just hyped up features I don't ever need or use. The main downside is the security updates, assuming they wont be supporting those either so will have to see how that plays out.

Ideally I would still like to get something even more locked down like the dumber mini so I don't rely as much on googling things or AI. If I am able to get my hands on one I will likely try that as a daily phone in the future and have a separate phone I use for work since I need some smart features for my job. But for now this does the job and I will try and update a long term impression once I spend more time with it.

Reposting because first post was removed by the readtherules app, I acknowledge that I have read the rules.

So I have been using dumbphone2 which I love! But, my second job requires very specific apps to function (caregiving job, must use their app), and just having a small "smartphone" I can dumb down will become necessary soon as my current one is nearly at end of life. For those who duel wield, what is your smartphone of choice that has best ability to dumb down, or do you use a tablet or anything else? Packing around my laptop isn't practical unfortunately, and just need a good option that fits in my purse. Thank you.

Warning that this is pretty long and ramble-y, but I feel like I would've wanted to read something like this before making the leap.

TLDR: Great option for people struggling with excessive short form content use due to its limited software. Significant durability issues, but the phone remains usable; if you purchase this model, buy the protective case. Consider purchasing the Pro instead. Flip phone, so, automatically cool and awesome. Overall, like a 7.5 or 8/10 experience- some significant downsides but the positives are super worth it.

After using this phone as my primary device, I wanted to share my in-depth thoughts and experience with it. I bought the F1 Horizon Eagle more than a year ago after some struggles with a pretty severe dependency on screens and short form content. I included a little more about why I decided to make the switch later in the post because it adds some valuable context as to why I consider some things "pros" that others might consider "cons".

My review of the F1 Horizon Eagle:

Why I chose the F1 Horizon Eagle:

• I needed to have email on my phone for work (at the time)
• It doesn't have an internet browser, so I can't get onto YouTube
• It has Waze
• No app store
• Camera
• Ability to send/receive photos over text
• I wanted a flip phone (because they're fun and really for no other reason)
• It was cheaper than the Pro (I wasn't willing to commit at first, regret that)

First 30 days:

The phone came with its stand charger, charging cord, and use/care instructions. The packaging it came in was memorably well designed, or at least I liked how it looked. There was a pre-installed glass screen protector on the exterior display. Setup was easy- I just switched my Verizon SIM card right into it and it was good to use, same day. I didn't try transferring any data, mostly because I wanted a fresh start, so I don't know how well the number-link works.

It has hotspot which made the initial switch smoother. I could hotspot my old smartphone to use things I wasn't ready to get rid of such as Google Maps and my banking app. I could hotspot my laptop for work. Highly recommend getting a dumbphone with hotspot for your first. You can't take videos or receive them over text. It's been a noticeable downside but comes up less often for me than I expected now that I don't need to for work.

The camera quality wasn't incredible but got the job done when I needed to send my old bosses photos.

Immediately after the warranty expired (aka 30+ days):

(Disclaimer: I am not nice to my electronics; I should have bought the phone case and didn't.)

Two days after the warranty expired, I dropped it for the first time. Immediately, the screen protector shattered and the inside screen broke. I dropped it a couple more times. The blue color on the outside plastic got super scratched up. The touch screen stopped working properly. I started having issues with the GPS. I called customer support and the person I spoke to wasn't very helpful or empathetic to my situation. A few weeks later, the charging/ data transfer port stopped charging the phone without tweaking the position of the cord. After about a year of very spare use, the port stopped working altogether. I work in a humid environment and since there isn't an air-tight seal around the internal components, the camera got salt on the lens within a few months of use and now takes blurry photos.

Some more minor bumps include:

• It's a dust magnet, which gets inside everything very easily
• The stand charger connection isn't super tight, so if the phone is leaning to the wrong side of the stand, it doesn't charge. I've only run into this issue a couple of times since it's obvious when it's not charging.
• Battery life has remained good enough to last all day the whole time I've had it, except when I use hotspot or Waze. Both drain the battery life pretty quickly, but if they're used at the same time, my phone doesn't last more than a couple hours.
• Updates to the OS happen frequently (which is mostly good) but there's a lot of noticeable, small changes which can be surprising (ex: at one point all my contacts didn't have a ringtone anymore unless I set one, so it was like my phone was on silent all the time).
• For some reason my GPS doesn't work unless I hold it in a specific spot in my car (I rest it on top of my steering wheel in front of the gauge cluster). I don't use it for daily navigation, so it's NBD. Although, I initially assumed it was broken and couldn't find any help about the issue, even from customer service.

Once I got used to everything, though, none of these issues were things that disrupted my life. I greatly preferred the time I got back in my day to any small annoyances the phone caused. I could still charge the phone with the stand charger, and the number pad meant the phone is still completely usable without the touch screen. From other reviews, it sounds like I could have avoided most of the downsides by getting the Pro.

Positives:

Despite all the negatives, I would still recommend this phone to someone with similar needs/ wants to mine. I am very happy with everything else. It was exactly what I was expecting in terms of its daily function and I'm so satisfied with that. Here's everything I can think of that I like about it:

• Battery lasts all day with normal use
• Despite all my abuse, it still works!
• I have not found a work-around to getting on the internet/ short form content on the phone
• UI is easy to understand
• Customizability isn't zero: Love all the ringtones and I can set my background to a photo
• Is exactly what I needed to start curbing my phone addiction

My thoughts on dumbphones as a first-time user:

I made the switch because I was very dependent on short-form content. Covid was pretty hard on me, and I was not doing well. My primary vice was TikTok. I caught myself opening it not just every moment I was slightly bored, but also every time I was feeling any sort of negative emotion. There was literally a point where I realized that I was numb to the feeling in my legs while using it- not that they had fallen asleep, but that I was so dissociated into my phone that I wasn't feeling my body. Every second of free time was gone. I had no hobbies. I wasn't interested in improving my situation because it was so easy to ignore it. Eventually, I was scrolling at work and while I was driving. I didn't want to hurt anybody, so I realized it was time to make a change. I attempted for quite a while to dumb down my smartphone so I could keep using it. I tried parent controls, downloading restrictive apps, deleting TikTok completely, using battery saver to simplify my OS, but it always led back to me using TikTok again. If it wasn't TikTok, it was YT shorts or Snapchat. If it wasn't those, it was watching YT shorts using my browser. I realized none of it was working, so I needed to limit myself. I had always wanted a flip phone, and had recently heard of dumbphone finder, so this seemed like the closest logical leap.

The transition was slow, but I was careful to be nice to myself while I was doing it. I knew shaming myself for going back to my old phone over and over was just going to lead to me abandoning the attempt at being a dumbphone user. Scrolling on TikTok isn't good, but it's a lot better than some of my other coping strategies, so when I needed it, I used it (& still sometimes do). It took me a good 6 months to really use it without using the hotspot to turn on my old phone. I had to make a lot of mistakes to know what I needed to stop using it- a camera, some cash stored in a few spots, a notebook, etc. Plus, a big part of the reason I stopped using my old phone was because I got a job that didn't need video sent over text anymore.

How big of an impact has it had on my short form content use? I still watch YouTube shorts sometimes because of my laptop and my smart TV, but it has become much easier to feel when I am struggling thanks to that. If I'm willing to open shorts on my TV and watch them for hours, I know something is wrong and I can identify it easier when I have time to think in the car and while I'm out of the house.

It can be a bit of a bummer to watch people struggle with phone addiction and not even care/ notice because it's so normalized to spend so much time on your phone. Sometimes people don't really take phone dependance seriously because it's so widespread and under-researched.

It isn't the easiest thing to get used to, having a dumbphone. Trying to navigate and getting lost the first few times when your phone dies while you're out is tricky but gets less terrifying each time it happens until it's normal. Figuring out how to be bored again is so hard and addressing the things that you've been ignoring is even worse, but it's worth it. On the other side is something more fulfilling. You realize how nice people really are with day-to-day stuff. Asking strangers for directions to your destination, bumming a few bucks off of someone because you forgot your wallet and ran out of gas, asking for accommodations when certain tasks require a smartphone- people really are very willing to help when you need it. But I'm not dropping money on useless stuff anymore because I don't have my wallet & bank app on my phone, so I actually have to think about my money. I have hobbies again (roller skating and painting have been great!). I'm actually paying attention to my needs. The journey isn't over, but I'm on my way to where I want to be.

Overall, 10/10 would recommend a dumbphone to anyone who's ready to work on their phone dependance. And the F1 horizon is a good one!

is there a workaround? Anytime I open a third party app the blank spaces app briefly pops up first before the third party app pops up. This does not happen with non third party apps.

Disclaimer: TTfone sent me this phone for free to review it (thanks!), but my opinions about it are my own. They had no editorial input in this review.

The TTfone TT290 is a de-Googled Android 13 keypad phone that goes for $136 USD or £99 GBP. It's another phone designed to be a middle ground between a traditional dumbphone and a smartphone. Compared to the last de-googled Android dumbphone I reviewed, the RUIO Joy, this one does a considerably better job at that.

• The quad-core 2.0GHz processor and 2GB of RAM is enough to breeze through the de-googled OS, the pre-installed open source apps (Fossify Messages, Clock, Gallery, etc.), and any other basic apps you throw at it. It only has 16GB of storage, but the micro SD card slot makes that acceptable.
• The removable 2500mAh battery lasted me about 2 days of light use with one SIM card inserted (supports dual SIMs though). The OS seems to more aggressively limit background activity from apps to conserve battery life, but that can be adjusted per-app in the Duraspeed page in settings which is a feature I welcome.
• The keypad feels nice and clicky to type on with very few imperfections. It lights up when in use (can be turned off). Dedicated power and volume buttons on the side are also a great feature that I'm not taking for granted after using the RUIO Joy. There's a rebindable button on the back next to the camera too.
• The out-of-box experience is pretty good. The setup is very brief and the phone comes with multiple keyboards (Simple Keyboard, T9IME, and Traditional T9) pre-installed. It has Aurora Store too so you can download most apps from the Google Play Store.
• Call quality is pretty good too, nothing to complain about. The loudspeaker is loud enough for calls.
• The camera quality is about as good as you'd expect, so usable for taking pictures of things but it's not winning awards.
• The screen is the weakest part of this phone. Low resolution and bad viewing angles. The 240x320 screen at 2.8" is jarring when you first see it, but they optimised Android to work on this pixel density and you'll get used to it after a week. It's bright enough to be used outdoors, but there's no automatic brightness adjustment which is a bit annoying.
• The lack of Google services will either be a deal-maker or breaker. Without it, you have better privacy, speed, and battery life, but some apps rely on it to send notifications, get your GPS location, or to work at all. Some navigation apps (Osmand, Magic Earth, etc.) don't rely on Google's GPS though and they work here.
• Other features include USB-C, 3.5mm headphone jack, micro SD card slot up to 256GB, GPS, Bluetooth, and mobile hotspot. However, no NFC, wireless charging, or accelerometer.
• It's made for 4G networks in the UK, but I got it to work on Telstra in Australia. Check the supported bands on their website before buying the phone outside the UK.

All in all, the TT290 is a solid budget keypad Android phone if you're after a de-Googled experience. It has the specs to run the essentials and the battery easily lasts at least a day.

If you have any questions about it, leave a comment and I'll try my best to answer.

do anyone there use old dumbphone like nokia 6300 or n95? I know that a lot of people use younger models, I mean younger than 20 years old haha
I have these 2 models in my family home and I have very good memories with these. These are still have more functions than brand new cheap dumbphone. many of these new dumbphones does not even support MP3 while 20 yr old one does.

So I decided to give it a shot but for now i need to buy new batteries to my phones and then I could start a smartphone detox :D

let me know if you also use old dumphones daily and how you like it

Hi!

I'm considering buying a second-hand BlackBerry Classic (Q10 or Q20?), as dumbphone next to my Swiss-knife of a smartphone, because of the shape/size, feel and QWERTY-keyboard. However, I was wondering how safe or secure this is - since I know that text messages (SMS) can be read by provider and therefore be audited by f. ex. government services. Does this go for the complete Operating System of the BlackBerry, seeing that the government has been out of business for years?

I would think that, since it isn't Android, at least Google isn't collecting any data on my mobile use.

What are your opinions on this? Is there a real alternative, in the form of "secure" dumbphones that come close to this level of price/quality?

Thank you in advance!

Hi, I got the TCL flip 3 in February 2025 and I had it for a few months and everything I needed worked. I was able to access my movie membership I was able to access the only social media that I have/use, which is Letterboxd on the phone but then I got another phone and now that I’m about to fully make the switch back to my TCL flip 3 it logged me out of my email and now it says my Google blocked the app. It logged me out of my Letterboxd account on the web and it just stays loading, it never logs me back in and then it also logged me out of my movie account and doesn’t let me back in so I was wondering if it’s time to buy another TCL flip 3. It’s the best fit for me because again I was able to access all of these at once and the screen is big enough that they are able to scan the barcode for my movie tickets because that is the only thing that I do for fun but yeah I was wondering if it’s time to buy a TCL flip 3 or if I have to just find a new flip phone altogether

Hi!

Wanted to ask if anybody had similar problem and maybe has some advice. I’ve got my dumb phone quite some time ago and love it for now.

The only problem is that it has automatic cursor detection (Kyocera a202kc) or something like that and after I switch off the phone or sometimes after an app update it stops detecting that the app needs so called pointer and it limits my usage of daily apps, since they are not very accessible without cursor

I wanted to keymap it, tho I have to do it with web adb and there might be an easier solution for that. I couldn’t find that topic anywhere, but I doubt I’m the only one

After waiting for a long time, I finally got myself a TT760 (https://www.ttfone.com/products/ttfone-tt760-eu). The plan is to use my laptop and the web version of all apps that I use AND keep my iPhone at home for logging into banking apps.

I did order a Dumber Mini few weeks back. It's supposed to start ship in January 27. I might end up cancelling it if I get used to this one. I hope I end up cancelling it.

Had my Kyocera KY42c for about a year and a half now, but only just today found the setting where you can make your phone register when it's plugged in so you can automatically pull your photos to your computer (I'm on a Mac and use the photos app). Previously i was doing some finagling with OpenMTP which was always confusing for me and I was struggling to find where exactly my photos are saved.

All that to say, about a year ago I saved a couple photos from my time at the aquarium to my computer. This was probably from going through OpenMTP. Today, downloading all of my photos to the Photos app, I found that the quality was much worse compared to however I extracted them last time. The photo on the top was saved a year ago, and the photo below today.

I'm wondering how this is happening and how I could get it to not happy? My photos obviously look fine on my flip, and I've seen them look fine before when downloading them, so unsure what's changed. I'm sure it's some silly setting somewhere that I just don't know about. TYIA!

Since covid ive been actively trying to rid myself of the smartphone and harboured a desired to do so for just as long before that. I’ve been using my current setup for a couple of months now – which I will detail later. I believe it’s the best balance that can be sustained for the long-term and a potential solution for most people out there.

Before I go into what my setup looks like, I’d like to describe what I have tried in the past and why it didn’t work for me:

·        Nokia 105 (2017 version) – best feeling dumbphone but sadly 2g only

·        Nokia E62 – a phone from 2009 so it’s a bit dated

·        TCL 4021 – almost perfect but lacks the ability to play mp3s

·        Nokia 225 4g and Nokia 3210 and Nokia 110 4g – feels cheap

·        Nokia banana/matrix phone – novelty wears off quickly

·        iPhone 15 – screen time locked with a passcode and given to someone else but is a hassle to maintain and easy to bypass

I do have a Nokia 215 4g which is the best dumbphone ive found: it feels great to touch, reliably makes calls and can play mp3 from a microSD card, but as with all dumbphones you do lose out of features that make a smartphone worth getting in the first place and those come up time and time again about what people (and I) miss. Maps, Whatsapp, Banking, Spotify, authenticators etc.

Once I sold my iPhone 15, I bought a cheap Motorola g35 for less than £100. A very simple operating system as it’s a near-stock android ui/ux that can be completely customised – unlike apple. What I did to achieve my setup:

·        Enabled debugging mode to remove every app that I didn’t need (and was safe to remove)

o   Look up the commands to remove whatever packages you want. Use a GPT to guide you on what is safe to remove

·        Removed stubborn google apps including anything that accessed could internet

·        Removed play store so there was no backdoor to download unnecessary apps

·        Migrated all internet related activities to the laptop and entertainment to tv

·        Downloaded olauncher and hide everything from the main screen else except phone, messages.

Ive been using this for a few months now, and the results have been very interesting. Im not going to lie and say that doing this or any form of digital detox will instantly make you happier, but what you do achieve is a truer understanding of yourself and what you want from life. I say this because we are constantly being bombarded with other people’s philosophy on how to live life, usually accompanied by them selling something to achieve this.

By turning your smartphone into a utility machine that serves instead of seducing, you start to develop organically rather than to be convinced or persuaded in a certain direction. A major plus point is the voice in your head stops, but that comes after some time of not being distracted or feeding every little thought that pops into your head.

Anyway im just putting out my 2 cents, if anyone wants more detail then pop me a message.

if youre struggling with a traditional dumbphone then give this a go.

Saw someone reference this in a post on r/dumbphones and wanted to see what other people in the dumbphone community think. Seems like it’s a pretty new concept/product and she only has a tiktok (linked below). I’m hoping this is legit because it’d be nice to get a cute qwerty slide phone

https://www.giaphone.com/

https://www.tiktok.com/@gia.phone

I touched on this topic back in August. And instead of following through with what I had planned after the Oppo Find X9 Pro, I now find myself looking at the Samsung Fold 8—even though what I really want is a "dumbphone." A digital detox. No more mindless scrolling.

But there are certain apps I simply can’t do without—like those for banking or charging an electric vehicle. And then there’s the camera; the camera is very important to me, especially when you have children.

I’ve watched countless videos, but I just can’t find the right one. And yet, there are companies that offer these kinds of concepts—but there’s always some sort of compromise involved.

Perhaps someone could recommend a device for me.

I would then move apps like Instagram and the like over to the work phone.

Trank you.

So I just got the Cat S22, downloaded signal, and debloated it with UAD. SMS/MMS work perfectly, calls and everything are good too. Signal works when I have a wifi connection, but as soon as I switch to cell I can no longer send or receive messages or calls.

I have fiddled with every setting I could find related to network and the signal app, but nothing has helped. Any ideas as to what could be the issue would be very much appreciated.

Released in 2017, Smartfren Andromax Prime is an Indonesian feature phone that runs Mocordroid, which initally was based on Android Jelly Bean; but the community managed to make a custom Android Marshmellow rom, so in 2026 it still runs Whatsapp just fine!

I got this unit for $10, and I'd say it's worth it.