r/extremelyinfuriating • • 1d ago

Discussion A 500%+ rate for a $2000 loan????

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How the fuck is this legal???? They are taking advantage of desperate people. The document was even hidden in tiny texts that I would not have even noticed if I wasn't distracted by their amazing and quick offer.

FYI I instantly clicked off and blocked them. I didn't sign or agree to any loans.

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u/Bad-Luck-Guy 1d ago

This is how poor people get screwed. Then people will take out payday loans and such to make these payments. And the cycle never ends.

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u/MissAAA_2 1d ago

I didn’t even think they were legal in most states anymore

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u/Bad-Luck-Guy 1d ago

Just checked and apparently payday loans are legal in 27 states.

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u/slippingaway83 22h ago

That's why they're operating on Tribal Lands. They have their own laws, it's sovereign land.

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u/SeriouslySlyGuy 21h ago

Till the orange diddler wants to build something. Not so sovereign then.

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u/Beerduck 23h ago edited 22h ago

But, John Oliver made an episode about this. Shouldn't it be abolished by now?

Oh, wait... this is real life...

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u/Santa_Hates_You 1d ago

Is this one of those Native American loans that have no rules because they are done through the reservations?

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u/Bad-Luck-Guy 1d ago

Says their office is on tribal land. No idea how that affects things. A lot of predatory loans are like this.

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u/nukleus7 1d ago

Fun fact, these tribal loans are not reported to credit agencies as it’s not legal. Most of these loans default and people never pay them back, and they attempt to get payment but ultimately fail and just forget about them too.

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u/MissAAA_2 1d ago

Exactly. But obviously they’ll never loan you money again.

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u/ElishaAlison 23h ago

What company is this? I really just want to know who to avoid if I ever do need a loan. (Yeah probably everyone but there's bad and then there's THIS)

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u/GhyverKahn 21h ago

Couldn't you just get a loan and not pay them back then?

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u/Salute-Major-Echidna 23h ago

Usury used to be a straight up crime. 28% interest on a late payment to a credit card was straight up usury. Then all the credit card companies wanted to charge it so it was ok.

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u/AxolotlTactician 23h ago

Collusive price fixing

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u/Salute-Major-Echidna 22h ago

No, just usury.

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u/AxolotlTactician 21h ago

I love you.

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u/pickledpeterpiper 1d ago

I've heard about Native American loans like this...I don't know if "Illegal" is the right word (they might be legal due to it being an independant nation or whatever) but I wouldn't test it...I hope you ran away from this one. That is fricking absurd....I can't imagine the kind of desperation it'd take to borrow 12k to get 2k...good God.

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u/JoyousMadhat 1d ago

Psychological play. They hide the details and make the accept and sign button really noticable and center of attention. Glad I checked

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u/Bankerag 22h ago

And there are people that say a person declaring bankruptcy “costs all of us money”.

Trying to imply it is a moral failure.

The low key brainwashing that happens in the US is mind boggling.

We hear about a company filing for a BK, and it’s called “strategic” but a person, that’s a lazy and bad person.

And what’s amazing is, the company is often zeroing out bondholders who are in fact pension funds and other retirement and investment vehicles held by average people.

A large corporate BK can hurt you individually much more than John who lost his job, but people are too caught up in narratives to realize it.

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u/MasterG76 14h ago

This type of loan is illegal in most countries...

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u/AppleFan1994 1d ago

You never take a loan without reading the fine print. If you get one of these you deserve to pay the price. Saying I didn't know is not an excuse. It's I didn't read it. All on you.

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u/MissAAA_2 1d ago

Okay watch payday loan scam on Netflix. People did read the fine print and he had the fine print hidden

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u/Salute-Major-Echidna 23h ago

Like they'll say the conditions are on the website and you look and there's no more info than on the sign or pamphlet. And then they update the website later to show a usurious set of numbers and terms.

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u/JoyousMadhat 23h ago

There was another one that obviously screamed scam cuz it was asking me to sign it before I could even view the loan terms

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u/FanDry5374 22h ago

Those rates should be illegal. One of the government's main jobs it to protect people. Read the fine print, but a lot of people in desperate situations are functionally illiterate.

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u/Santa_Hates_You 1d ago

People are just never taught to do these things.

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u/MissAAA_2 1d ago

Agree but that one man I felt bad for it. He read that thing over and over and didn’t realize until the FTC got involved that they literally had like other things hidden within the document that wasn’t on a clickable link, cause everything was done online mostly

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u/tribbans95 20h ago

That was a decent excuse before the times of being able to look anything up in a moments notice. No excuse not to teach yourself about finances, it’s not like it’s overly complicated

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u/Salute-Major-Echidna 1d ago

Probably they're never taught not to do those things

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u/HERMANNATOR85 22h ago

He didn’t take the loan, yall really need to learn how to read

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u/dj0ntgirl 21h ago

"People who get scammed deserve it for being stupid/ignorant" is such a brilliantly unempathetic, verging on misanthropic take.

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u/acelyca 16h ago

why are we always making excuses for people who do nothing but take advantage of others

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u/epiphanyWednesday 6h ago

This shit is predatory. It needs to be highly regulated.

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u/Another_Slut_Dragon 6h ago

Canada here. That would be illegal. But we have functional consumer protection laws.

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u/MissAAA_2 1d ago

Is this even legal?

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u/MissAAA_2 1d ago edited 1d ago

The good thing is if this is a payday loan, it won’t affect your credit but you need to change your bank account right now. You can close your bank account out but remember it might take 10 days but see if you can put a block on them and explain to them what’s going on. Which banks if you absolutely have to.

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u/MissAAA_2 1d ago

Change your bank account and shut down your current one and block them

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u/JoyousMadhat 23h ago

Bro. I have not accepted the loan. I saw the terms, took an SS, and closed out.

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u/AxolotlTactician 23h ago

LOL, “you’re dangerous, I like that…”

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u/Accomplished_Emu_658 1d ago

Its legal because they pay the right people

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u/MissAAA_2 1d ago

No, it’s not they get away with a lot since we stole their land

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u/Salute-Major-Echidna 23h ago

Except they don't benefit. It's white folks creating the terms

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u/No_Improvement9734 22h ago

Feathers are the real gangsters

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u/redmeraki225 9h ago

If this is from a cash advanced place, it's because they don't run your credit to give you a loan, so the longer you take to pay it off, the more money they get from you. Jump away from this place. Those places are predatory to people with poor credit and it'll keep you down. $14,000 paid back for $2,000 isn't worth it.