r/geopolitics • • 1d ago

News Iran’s precision strikes picked apart Gulf infrastructure, blunting US war plans

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/iran-crisis-infrastructure-attacks/

Iran’s missiles and drones have hit Gulf infrastructure sites at least 135 times, causing cascading failures that Gulf states have often concealed. Despite repeated official statements that the damage came from debris, Reuters found the equipment struck was, time and again, exactly what mattered most.

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u/tachyon534 1d ago

Almost like Iran had been planning for this exact scenario for decades and knew exactly how to undermine the US in the face of overwhelming firepower, and the US walked straight into the trap for no reason whatsoever.

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u/gnutrino 1d ago

the US walked straight into the trap for no reason whatsoever.

Hey now, it wasn't for no reason. I have it on good authority that Netanyahu asked Trump very nicely to step on this particular landmine, it would have been rude to have said no (like all the previous presidents Bibi tried this shit with did).

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u/Exact_Depth_896 1d ago

Trump was a mullahmaniac decades before Netanyahu. It has pervaded his entire nervous system since 1980. There is even extensive raving commentary about the Tanker War, proving he knew quite well what might happen.

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u/Anonymouse-C0ward 1d ago

Why wouldn’t we want to be friends with Israel? /s

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u/ProfessorTimely8711 8h ago edited 7h ago

because in order to be friends with Netanyahoohoo he wanted war with Iran so he talked the LIAR at the HELM into joining him getting us in this stupid f ing war, Now Our boys are getting killed. OUR Economy is shit. Im thinking the admin and pentagon lied about how many of our boys were or are actually getting killed. Shit goes on and on and on…

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u/dansdansy 1d ago

Well we did succeed in a regime change from Khomeini to \checks notes** Khomeini again?! Dang I really thought the exiled monarch with no connection to modern Iran would be greeted like a rockstar.

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u/momoali11 1d ago

From Khamenei to Khamenei

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u/argparg 1d ago

No particular reason? We still don’t have the p tapes and Epstein files!

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u/BendicantMias 23h ago

P tapes?

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u/InfelixTurnus 17h ago

Alleged golden shower material.

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u/stuckanon01 1d ago

“No reason whatsoever” isn’t quite right. Iran has been engaged in asymmetric war with the US more or less since 79, and had a hand in killing a lot of US personnel and those of its allies. I’m ok saying it was foolish or outsized for the amount of damage Iran was actually causing, but not no reason.

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u/FijiFanBotNotGay 1d ago

But what was the reason for engaging at this moment. We escalated for no reason whatsoever unless you think Iran orchestrated October 7

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u/TominatorXX 1d ago

Epstein

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u/trashPandaizKe 1d ago

It was because of Syria. Assad falling in Syria, opened up an avenue for attack by Israel against Iran. The Hezbollah threat was neutered already, and Syrian airspace not being in control of Iran/Syria provided an air superiority corridor. If Syria doesn't fall Iran would have gotten attacked in Syria (as they had been), but likely not in Iran.

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u/TheMailmanic 1d ago

Obv bibi wanted it now as part of his broader plan to destroy all of Israel’s enemies in one shot

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u/BendicantMias 1d ago

The day Israel dares to take on Turkey is a day they'll sorely come to regret.

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u/Mantergeistmann 1d ago

My best guess? Trump made posts on social media demanding that Iran stop killing protesters, and then his ego didn't want to back down when they didn't listen so the carrier groups started moving.

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u/BendicantMias 1d ago

More likely he was just riding high off of his success with Venezuela and thought he could stamp his mark on history even more BIGLY by doing in Iran next.

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u/myredditaccount80 9h ago

This is a bad guess given the timing of things. A better guess is that he's Bibi's puppet, but knew he needed Venezuelan oil on the market first.

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u/BendicantMias 1d ago

Iran has been engaged in asymmetric war with the US more or less since 79

The US has been engaged in asymmetric war with Iran since 53 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat

It was instigated by the United Kingdom (MI6), under the name Operation Boot\6])\7])\8])\9]) and the United States (CIA), under the name TP-AJAX Project\10])|popular_household_cleanser]],_the_implication_being_that_the_operation_would_scour_Iran_of_communist_influence"-11) or Operation Ajax.

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u/stuckanon01 1d ago

Did history start in 53? Nothing happens in isolation, there is always a cause, and a cause before that. You are proving my point not rebutting it

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u/myredditaccount80 9h ago

The cause in 1953 was BP oil interests wrapped in anti-communism hysteria.

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u/polchiki 1d ago

Well now 21 more Americans have been killed by Iran, is that an improvement?

When Trump started this war, his own counterterrorism chief quit over it, saying there was no imminent threat and our actions were unjustifiable.

When pressed under oath, his director of national intelligence refused to say it was her own opinion a threat was imminent but rather made the argument that only the president is capable of determining what a threat is. A horrifying opinion.

So, no. There’s no evidence available to submit under oath that reasonably supports the hypothesis that Iran was an imminent threat prior to this war of choice. All one can do is lie on the internet about it or deflect the question.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gabbard-sidesteps-iran-imminent-threat-claim-under-senate-grilling.amp

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u/Abdulkarim0 1d ago

With all respect to the fallen but 21 is way lower number than millions dying the day mullahs regime acquire nuclear warhead

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u/polchiki 1d ago

But like my link shows, Trump’s own chosen appointees testified under oath that they were nowhere near nuclear weapon realization AND they have no ability to reach the U.S. mainland regardless.

So why did we strike now before preparing our local bases which are now destroyed and no longer usable? Why did we strike before securing ally or even citizen buy-in when there was no emergency? Why strike when our economy is already weak and debt already cartoonish and current gov spending skyrocketing even before this war? Why strike when our strategic reserves were already fairly well depleted? If we had time, like his cabinet testified we did, we could have prepared more if we were serious and valued strategy over fanfare.

We aren’t in a good place for this risky maneuver and the admin has failed to prove it was necessary. It’s a baseless appeal to emotion to say but what if you simply imagine a bomb was just about to be invented? Then surely you must support this war! In that hypothetical, sure. But the fact that his own cabinet stopped short of making that argument under oath is all I need to know.

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u/KalaiProvenheim 1d ago

idk man the Iranian Government has proven more rational than Trump

If Trump hasn’t nuked Iran, I doubt Iran would

They’ve also been “2 weeks away” since the 90s

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u/iMotorboater 1d ago

Lol everyone said the same shit about North Korea. Now look at them. They are more secure than ever, with zero imminent threat of usage. It’s almost as if nuclear weapons are meant to be used for deterrence…

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u/stuckanon01 1d ago

You are answering a question that was not asked

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u/caks 1d ago

Regardless of what Iran has done... I mean those weren't the reasons for this war. Trump didn't suddenly go: oh actually the AMIA bombing

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u/stuckanon01 1d ago

Without 50 years of slow burn proxy warfare, unending “death to America” messaging, and decades of nuclear brinksmanship Trump could not have pretended to have any justification for his war. The US was foolish to attack the way it did, but Iran is not an innocent in this.

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u/BendicantMias 1d ago

All of which began WITH the US mind you. There's a reason the Revolution was so anti-American, and it directly traces to America's own prior actions against Iran - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat

It was instigated by the United Kingdom (MI6), under the name Operation Boot\6])\7])\8])\9]) and the United States (CIA), under the name TP-AJAX Project\10])|popular_household_cleanser]],_the_implication_being_that_the_operation_would_scour_Iran_of_communist_influence"-11) or Operation Ajax.

You don't get to start the clock with 1979. The US' choices sowed the seeds for Irans' enduring hatred of it, and all it's doing now is embedding those seeds even deeper.

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u/myredditaccount80 9h ago

There were not decades of nuclear brinksmanship. Nuclear brinksmanship didn't begin until a few years ago, after Trump violated the terms of our agreement with them.

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u/caks 1d ago

So why did Trump suddenly end 50 years of "appeasement"? Again, saying Iran did bad things is a trite truism at this point, I want to know why now.

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u/TominatorXX 1d ago

Epstein is the real reason

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u/stuckanon01 1d ago

Distraction was definitely part of the calculation from Trumps side, but it did not occur in a vacuum

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u/Exact_Depth_896 1d ago

Trump is nuts but Iran's war of choice against the US has been openly genocidal since the beginning. The first post-revolutionary government - largely Mosaddeghites - largely resigned when Khomeini adopted the spefically genocidal project.

People got used to it and think there is no war, when every child brought up in the last half century has countless songs of war and genocide in his or her memory. It belongs to the earliest levels of cognitive development for what is now the vast majority.

It turned out to be a winning formula both for internal control of the population on the Stalinist model, but also for foreign relations.

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u/stuckanon01 1d ago

Between North Korea, Gaza/W.Bank/PA, Cuba, and Iran there is little room to doubt the power of isolating a population and mainlining propaganda against your “enemies.” I’m not ignorant to the presence of propaganda in US media, but I never learned one song as a child about murdering Iranians or throwing North Koreans into the sea. Making a conflict the core of your national identity is so destructive for essentially no purpose.

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u/FijiFanBotNotGay 1d ago

Idk. I grew up being told communism was evil

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u/CavemanJello 1d ago

did you sing death to communism at your 8th birthday?

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u/iMotorboater 1d ago

Nah American kids preferred playing with trading cards about killing commies, that’s way more fun than singing!

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u/CavemanJello 13h ago

Theres a lot of wiggle room between state sanctioned indoctrination and the ability to buy trading cards knocking another system of government, the obvious being… it’s not enforced in any way and you can dissent without fear for your life in the US.

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u/iMotorboater 12h ago edited 12h ago

Iran had those same freedoms too when they had Mossadegh as their democratically elected leader. They were liberal af. Then he wanted to nationalize oil so the US being the US they decided to coup his ass and replace him with a brutal dictator puppet. So came the rise of the Ayatollahs. Every dissenter’s death after Mossadegh can be blamed on US involvement.

You people only approve freedom if it helps your bottom line.

Also seems you’ve never heard of public schools in the US being forced to adjust their curriculum to be anti-communist. Sounds like state sanctioned indoctrination to me.

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u/CavemanJello 9h ago

Concerning that you cant see the difference between telling children that communism is dangerous with a lot of evidence to support it and routinely having children chant “death to X nation”

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u/ewhite12 1d ago

“No reason whatsoever”

Where have you been living? It was unironically to distract from Epstein files and it’s worked. Congress as still not authorized use of military force, it’s an illegal war to protect Trump and keep Netanyahu from prison

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u/Exact_Depth_896 1d ago

'the epstein files stole my brain'

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u/realrafaelcruz 1d ago

It's less of a trap and more of a mutually assured destruction thing. You're not happy if you're the Iranians right now. They're fighting for their survival and suffering a lot too. A huge chunk of their leadership is dead, tons of economic pain, and they're basically doing guerilla warfare. That's not a win.

Both sides lost this conflict imo.

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u/Abdulkarim0 1d ago edited 1d ago

Ah yes trying to pursue a nuclear device to create holocaust to hurry up the arrival of the Master of the Time the Awaited Mahdi, according to their belief, is not a reason whatsoever

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u/MastodonParking9080 1d ago

Wasn't the prediction of the Iranian + Proxy response as "apocalyptic"?

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u/BendicantMias 1d ago edited 1d ago

SS: Irans' response to the US-Israeli war on it has repeatedly been downplayed and minimized, and worse presented as if it were the incoherent flailing of a struggling adversary. This Reuters investigation calls those presumptions into question, suggesting that Iran knew exactly what it was doing, and likely now knows even better what it should do (note that they've also just recently SUNK two cargo ships in the Strait, which are two out of only 3 commercial ships sunk in this entire war - this is likely in response to the US recently gloating about its success at opening up the Strait and getting more oil through, oil flows are back down again now).

The US, which has imposed a blockade on Iranian oil, repeatedly downplays Iran’s capacity for destruction. Arab Gulf countries often fail to acknowledge major damage and frequently blame harm to their facilities on falling debris from successful interceptions of Iranian munitions.

Attacks like these on Gulf infrastructure have been announced without detail during the war by governments in the region and other players. But a Reuters investigation reveals how precise these strikes have been, the resulting failure of critical equipment at key facilities, and the extent of the damage – both physical and economic.

Ryan Stevens, a former US Marine Corps special operations airstrike coordinator who reviewed Reuters’ findings, said Iran’s strikes showed “precision, targeting expertise, and patience.”

Gulf states are suppressing information about the toll. It is illegal in the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia to take or distribute certain photos or video of the aftermath of strikes.

All 14 said it was highly improbable that damage to essential equipment at dozens of major infrastructure sites was caused primarily by debris falling haphazardly from the sky. Many of them cited visual evidence of explosive detonations, rather than just the impact of a chunk of metal, and pointed to the operational importance of the targets themselves.

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u/Luke-HW 1d ago

Meanwhile the US was operating on decade-old intel, which they fed into an AI. When we double-tapped a school on the first day of the war, I could tell that it was already over.

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u/Exact_Depth_896 1d ago

you believe the army's AI-blaming

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u/Curtain_Beef 1d ago

Palantir's "Maven" software all the way down.

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u/Catch_ME 1d ago

It was triple tapped actually.

The first strike killed the educators and school girls. The 2nd killed the local civilians that rushed to help. The 3rd was the first responders that arrived to pull people out. 

Double and triple tapping in civilian areas need to be a war crime

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u/Kiyae1 1d ago

Pretty sure it is a war crime already, but Pete Hegseth has made it pretty clear his goal is to commit as many war crimes as possible. Dude ordered a strike on sailors in a wrecked ship, which is absolutely a war crime.

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u/Caberes 1d ago

I'm pretty sure the satellite images confirmed a double tap on school, not sure where you are getting the third strike from.

Double and triple tapping in civilian areas need to be a war crime

It's a tragedy, but the building was within the walls of a fortified and active IRGCN compound. I'm not sure I'd consider it a civilian area...

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u/Vol_in_tears 1d ago

It's a tragedy, but the building was within the walls of a fortified and active IRGCN compound. I'm not sure I'd consider it a civilian area...

Take a look at how many schools are on US military bases.

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u/Caberes 1d ago

I don't get what you are arguing here? It would be a tragedy, but military bases are a valid military target. There is a reason the US opened up voluntary departures of families before the conflict, and then a full evac once the conflict went kinetic.

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u/TominatorXX 1d ago

It was definitely known by the civilians in the dod damage mitigation department, but Trump and heckseph eliminated that office.

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u/caks 1d ago

Ghoul mentality

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u/belortik 1d ago

You can't define civilian and non-civilian areas in modern conflicts. You'll just get the weaker side (or both sides) hiding in civilian areas then.

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u/Catch_ME 1d ago

We already do it. There's are certain weapons not allowed to be used in civilian areas like white phosphorus.

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u/belortik 1d ago

And are non-state actors and dictators following those "rules"?

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u/NekoCatSidhe 1d ago edited 1d ago

That's... more or less what I expected, the IRGC having shown time and again than they are both dangerously competent at their jobs and completely ruthless.

And I am not sure what was the point in hiding all that damage, except to pretend that our political leaders had not made an horrific mistake in starting that war and that they were not very incompetent at running it, which should have been obvious to anyone paying attention a long time ago.

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u/Kiyae1 1d ago

The American military is, by and large, dangerously competent at their jobs and completely ruthless, arguably moreso than the IRGC.

Iranian leadership on the other hand is far more competent than American leadership currently is.

Additionally, the American military hasn’t really been preparing for this particular conflict for over forty years, they’ve been preparing for a defensive conflict with Iran with the goal of containment and deterrence, because that’s what every president since Reagan has been envisioning. None of the previous presidents had any interest at all in a direct confrontation with Iran, so the military didn’t really prepare for it. This is all Iran has planned for for years.

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u/ProfessorTimely8711 8h ago

with that. said…Are our boys doomed you think.

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u/Kiyae1 5h ago

“Some of you may die, but that’s a price that I’m willing to pay…” - DT

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u/SentientFotoGeek 1d ago

So predictable. How we didn't see this coming is mind boggling.

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u/Lazy_Membership1849 1d ago

To be fair, Trump claim that Iran military been obliterated and beg for deals while losing control of the strait

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u/ProfessorTimely8711 7h ago

Didn’t you hear Trump is a lying liar.

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u/Andyseawolf 1d ago

As soon as Israel realized that Iran could hit them at ballistic missiles, they chickened out 🤷

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u/The-Intermediator141 1d ago

What are you talking about, Israel literally knew from the start of the current conflict that Iran could strike it with ballistic missiles. This is not new information. It’s the reason in 2025 they were targeting Iranian mobile launch platforms.

What IS new is Iran striking the Gulf states, despite the UAE & Saudi Arabia barring the U.S. from using their airspace to attack Iran. Didn’t make much difference, and Iran has actually ended up targeting the UAE with over twice the missiles & drones that Israel has been targeted with, which is interesting.

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u/Andyseawolf 1d ago

Israel knew Iran had ballistic missiles, of course. That’s why it targeted mobile launchers. But knowing a threat exists isn’t the same as knowing how much damage and how long a sustained exchange will cost. Iran’s attacks on Gulf states are a separate issue. What evidence shows Iranian retaliation had no influence on Israel’s decision to halt its campaign?

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u/Exact_Depth_896 1d ago

What evidence shows Iranian retaliation had influence on Israel’s decision to halt its campaign?

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u/Andyseawolf 1d ago

The evidence is that Israel stopped attacking Iran 🤷

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u/MasterAyy 1d ago

Your logic doesn't make sense. He's asking for evidence 'why' Israel halted their campaign and you are using the action of the halted campaign itself as the evidence for your reason. If I said Israel stopped attacking Iran because they feared an alien invasion I can't say that "the evidence is that Israel stopped attacking Iran". You need to provide evidence why your specific reason is what caused the decision.

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u/Andyseawolf 1d ago

Israel and USA start the war. The war is still ongoing. The objectives have not been reached. Israel chickened out.🤷

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u/MasterAyy 1d ago

No Israel chickened out, not because they are afraid of Iran, but because an alien invasion is imminent. My evidence is that Israel stopped attacking Iran.

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u/Exact_Depth_896 18h ago

you are going around in circles with zero evidence but your own propositions

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u/Exact_Depth_896 18h ago

your evidence for p was p.

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u/Andyseawolf 17h ago

Chicken 🐓 for 🐓

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u/Independent-Log-839 1d ago

What a stupid response.

Are we just going to ignore that israel was still hitting hezbollah despite iran theeats? Why were they still hitting them?

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u/Andyseawolf 1d ago

Because Hezbollah and Iran are two different targets. Israel continuing to hit Hezbollah doesn’t prove it was willing to sustain a direct war with Iran. In fact, Israel and Iran halted their direct attacks in June 2026, while Israel said it would continue operations in Lebanon. So the question is whether Israel was prepared to keep fighting Iran after Iran retaliated, not whether it was prepared to keep attacking Hezbollah. You’re answering a different question.
So yes Israel chickens out when the enemy can defend themselves

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u/Independent-Log-839 1d ago

Them being 2 different targets does not disprove my original statement, your original statemeant claimed that israel chickened out due to the fear of them getting hit by iranian ballistic missles. My hezbollah statemeant disproves that statemeant of yours because they were indeed not afraid of iranian ballistic missles as they still kept on attacking lebanon desoite iran threats

About your point

"Israel chickens out when the enemy can defend themselves" Is also hilarious because israel stopped attacking because both sides agreed to stop attacking eachother, I would like to see you a source showing that Israel indeed chickned out of this war

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/08/israel-and-iran-attacks-pause-after-trump-calls-to-stop-shooting

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u/Andyseawolf 1d ago

You’re confusing willingness to accept one level of risk with willingness to accept another. Attacking Hezbollah in Lebanon is not the same as exchanging ballistic missile strikes directly with Iran. Continuing one operation doesn’t prove Israel wasn’t concerned about the costs of the other.

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u/Independent-Log-839 23h ago

Your original point "As soon as Israel realized that Iran could hit them at ballistic missiles, they chickened out" which is funny because they were willingly to exchange fire after iran hit them due to lebanon in june, you STILL HAVE NOT given me EVIDENCE that israel  chickned out after the war. My point still stands they arent or werent afraid that iran can launch out a response

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u/Exact_Depth_896 18h ago

more epistemic circles; its evidently like the cyclical process involved in masturbation

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u/neverrelaxe 1d ago

what evidence do you have that it had influence?

you cant prove a negative btw

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u/Andyseawolf 1d ago

It’s my view that Israel chickened out when they found out that Iran could hit back. What is your view 🤓

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u/neverrelaxe 1d ago

that they focusing on gaza and lebanon and you invented this theory out of thin air

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u/Andyseawolf 1d ago

As far as I know, the war with Iran is still ongoing. Which means the objective has not been reached. So it’s my opinion that Israel chickened out 👍🏻🤷

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u/neverrelaxe 1d ago

they killed the leaders on day 1, they killed hezbollah and hamas leaders. they blew up the nuclear facilities.

now they wait for iran to build them up if they choose, and blow them up again.

but they chickened out ok

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u/Andyseawolf 1d ago

Yes they chickened out because if all the goals were achieved the USA would not still be fighting 🤷🤓

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u/neverrelaxe 1d ago

israels goals and usas goals are not 100% aligned

what is aligned: no nuclear weapon for iran whats not: global oil price

sure it would be nice if israel continued to help out, maybe donald told them no, maybe they decided not to

but they are not chickens they are killers

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u/LateralEntry 1d ago

You kidding? Iran launched the largest ballistic missile strike ever on Israel in 2025 and they still took out Khamenei in 2026

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u/Andyseawolf 1d ago

Exactly, Iran demonstrated it could hit Israel with ballistic missiles. The question is whether Israel was willing to sustain the costs of a prolonged war with Iran, not whether it could retaliate. A successful strike or counterstrike doesn’t prove either side was winning strategically.

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u/Exact_Depth_896 1d ago

Your thesis is totally destroyed by this evidence

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u/Andyseawolf 1d ago

You are allowed to have your own viewpoint on the subject 👍🏻🤓

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u/HoightyToighty 1d ago

Are you chickening out right now, as you claim Israel was when it "realized" Iran could reach it?

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u/Andyseawolf 1d ago

Nope, give me your best shot 👍🏻

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u/Fake_Citizen 1d ago edited 1d ago

This isn't true. Any war planners would have expected Iran to retaliate.

Iran tried to threaten Israel with ballistic missile strikes to stop them from attacking Hezbollah's stronghold. Israel attacked Hezbollah anyway. Iran launched missiles at Israel, which was mostly shot down.

Israel retaliated by striking missile facilities as well as decapitation strikes on their leaders. Iran was spooked and chose not to escalate further.

I would say that Israel's strikes are way more potent than USA due to their intel and their willingness to assassinate anyone without caring about collerateral damage aka their entire family.

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u/Andyseawolf 1d ago

Expecting retaliation isn’t the same as being prepared for its scale or consequences. Iran demonstrated it could strike Israeli cities with ballistic missiles, despite Israel intercepting many of them. Israel’s intelligence and targeted strikes don’t prove it could sustain a prolonged war with Iran without paying a heavy price. What evidence shows Israel stopped because Iran was “spooked” rather than because both sides had strategic reasons to avoid further escalation?

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u/Fake_Citizen 1d ago edited 1d ago

1) Israeli attacks on Hezbollah continued while Iran did not retaliate in any forms thereafter. 2) Israel was not attacked at all when US resumed bombing on Iran's coastline to regain control of the Straits of Hormuz in July 2026.

Iran could have continued sending missiles towards Israel just like how they did to US bases in the middle east. But they knew that if they even attempted attacking Israel, they would be getting hammered on two fronts just like the first round. They are the only middle eastern country who WILL bomb them back, and painfully.

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u/Andyseawolf 1d ago

You’re assuming Iran refrained from attacking Israel because it feared retaliation, but you haven’t established that. The 2025 campaign ended after Iranian missiles struck Israeli cities, and the ceasefire followed US intervention and pressure on both sides. Israel claimed it had achieved its objectives, but that doesn’t prove its decision was unaffected by the damage and cost of Iran’s retaliation. What evidence rules out that those costs influenced the decision?

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u/Fake_Citizen 1d ago edited 1d ago

The events after the first ceasefire in April 2026 has already established that. Iran could have launched a few more missiles at Israel when US resumed attacks on Iran or when Hezbollah was attacked.

1) Two front war 2) Israel will decapitate and terrorise IRGC leadership and its members which US Navy does not do. US only goes for hard targets. Iran is extremely fearful of this. 3) Civil uprising as a result of 2.

In fact, Israel wants Iran to attack so that Israel can finish off IRGC with a casus belli.

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u/Andyseawolf 1d ago

You’re describing plausible reasons Iran might avoid further escalation, but you’re treating speculation as proof. Iran not launching more missiles doesn’t establish that fear of Israeli retaliation was the decisive factor; it could also reflect military losses, strategic calculations or a desire to avoid a wider war.
More importantly, you’re conflating Iran’s restraint with Israel’s decision to stop fighting. The June 2025 ceasefire followed Trump’s intervention, and Israel explicitly agreed to his proposal. Iranian missiles had also killed four people in Beersheba shortly before the ceasefire. That doesn’t prove the damage influenced Israel’s decision, but neither can you rule it out.
And if Israel actually wanted Iran to attack so it could finish off the IRGC, that undermines your claim that Iran’s restraint simply demonstrates how effectively Israel deterred it. What evidence distinguishes your explanation from these alternatives?

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u/Fake_Citizen 18h ago

There is no such thing as definite answer. You can only get them from the Ayatollah or his inner circle. Your argument is moot.

Iran not launching more missiles doesn’t establish that fear of Israeli retaliation was the decisive factor; it could also reflect military losses, strategic calculations or a desire to avoid a wider war.

You have already answered the question and contradicted yourself in the process. So, bombing other gulf states would not risk a wider war, but bombing Israel would? Even when military losses were mostly caused by Israel, so what happened to the desire for revenge?

The answer is very simple. It is not worth hitting Israel because they WILL make it painful. You have answered that youself.

Israel chickening out? Any person who knows geopolitics would never think so.

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u/Andyseawolf 17h ago

You admit we can’t know Iran’s exact reasoning, yet claim certainty that Israel’s retaliation is the reason. That’s speculation, not proof. Military losses and escalation risks are also factors. And being militarily powerful doesn’t mean a country never backs down when the costs get too high. That’s geopolitics too.

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u/Fake_Citizen 14h ago

Again, the answer is taking inferences from their actions which events since Feb 26 have shown.

Military losses and escalation risks are also factors.

This is deterrence, not "chickening out" as you have claimed. You have contradicted yourself again.

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u/Exact_Depth_896 1d ago

What evidence is there that they had any influence? They roused the population.

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u/Andyseawolf 1d ago

The war is ongoing, and Israel has a stopped attacking. Why are they not helping the USA? They chickened out 🤷

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u/FijiFanBotNotGay 1d ago

You’re reducing a nuanced situation to back and white. Iran just needs to attack all the radar installations the area but even radar in Türkiye can protect Israel because Iran needs to use lrbms to strike Israel. For more major attacks on Israel the conflict would need to escalate first otherwise it’s a waste of missiles. Take out the radar they can and refueling aircraft is the Iranian strategy and it makes sense

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u/ihavestrings 1d ago

Iran stopped shooting at Israel because too many missiles were getting shot down. Iran threatened Israel multiple times after this when Israel was attacking Hezbollah, and Israel shrugged.

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u/Andyseawolf 1d ago

Iran having missiles intercepted doesn’t mean it posed no serious threat. Interceptions aren’t always complete, and some missiles still got through. Likewise, Israel continuing to attack Hezbollah doesn’t prove Iranian retaliation had no influence on its decisions. You’re assuming Israel wasn’t deterred without proving that its decisions were unaffected.

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u/ihavestrings 20h ago

Here you go:
Iran warns US against Israeli attack on south Lebanon ridge held by Hezbollah, sources say
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-warns-us-against-israeli-attack-south-lebanon-ridge-held-by-hezbollah-2026-09-03/

Didn't stop Israel.

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u/Andyseawolf 20h ago

That proves Israel was willing to continue attacking Hezbollah in Lebanon despite Iran’s warning. It doesn’t prove Israel isn’t deterred by the prospect of Iranian ballistic missile attacks on Israel itself. Those are two very different situations. Israel can attack a target in Lebanon while still being cautious about a direct war with Iran. You’re confusing willingness to attack one target with a willingness to accept the costs of another.

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u/FijiFanBotNotGay 1d ago

Too many missiles we’re being shot down not because of our superior doctrine but because the remaining air defense would require escalating to attack a nato country or a us destroyer

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u/leeta0028 1d ago

Lol, Israel NEVER intended to participate in the war on Iran. Even when they were pushing Trump to do it, they were saying they have minimal ability to project power there (mainly with regards to ground or naval power.)

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u/Andyseawolf 1d ago

Israel launched a major military operation against Iran on 13 June 2025, striking nuclear and missile facilities and killing senior military leaders. It clearly did participate. The question is whether it ended the campaign on its own terms or whether Iranian retaliation and US pressure helped force a ceasefire. What evidence proves Iran’s ability to retaliate played no role?

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u/ProfessorTimely8711 8h ago

CAN anyone tell me if the defense systems are working properly on some or all the bases now? when I read the news about the Pentagon hiding things a lot of things from the public was wondering if this was one of the things that they are hiding. Me and friends can’t believe the liar at the helm or the other dummy supposedly in chg. Makes me sick we are we we are today.

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u/kuzuman 1d ago

Historically, the Arabs feared the Iranians/Persians because when they made a move tend to be definitive.

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u/Abdulkarim0 1d ago

I cannot recall a single battle in which the Persians defeated the Arabs since the time of Umar ibn al-Khattab, who crushed the Persians at the Battle of al-Qadisiyyah. Ever since that day, the Persians' resentment toward the Arabs has never ceased.