r/graphicnovels • Go read 20th Century Men • May 25 '25

News It seems Peter David has passed away. RIP PAD

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u/armoured_lemon May 25 '25

RIP. Never stop shaming Marvel for their treatment of him.

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u/JPOW1977 May 26 '25

What happened?

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u/armoured_lemon May 26 '25 edited May 28 '25

Marvel was happy to reprint the comics he worked on with his name in collected omnibuses... but wouldnt give him even pennies for royalties. Not paying him for reprinting his books.

Then when he started having severe medical and financial problems they practically ignored him. 

They *knew he was in dire need of help and couldnt be bothered to give even a cent to help him out, so he had to set up a gofundme.

They couldnt be bothered to give even the bare minimum of a single dollar, in bieng decent human biengs to help a fellow person. He had next to nothing in royalties.

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u/jnine2020 May 26 '25

Marvel has been known for not paying royalties. DC is better at it but still has its faults too.

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u/JPOW1977 May 28 '25

that's messed up.

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u/armoured_lemon May 28 '25

Yeah.

The only tale worse than this, which I can think of- is how Bob Kane cheated Bill Finger out of writing credit of Batman AND royalties.

Dc later cheated Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster out of Super-man writing credits, and refused to pay them anything at the time of the first superman movie with Reeves in 1978...

Only after Neil Adams campaigned for the rights of the two of them, by shaming DC for it on talk shows--did they come running with their tail between their legs--pleading to settle the case in court, by agreeing to pay them royalties and return writing credits...

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u/JPOW1977 May 29 '25

Is it true that Stan Lee took some credit from Jack Kirby or was I just listening to Stan Lee haters?

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u/armoured_lemon May 29 '25

No, it is true.

He was not on the level of Bob Kane though... Stan at least gave *some credit, and acknowledged Kirby and Ditko and others (somewhat)...

Bob Kane never acknowledged Bill Finger... until he had died. He was a real piece of work. One time when Bill Finger was going to recieve recognition at a comic-con appearance, he wrote a letter gaslighting Bill, calling him a 'liar', and devaluing all his statements about creating all the memorable characters of Batman mythos, and the Allan Scott Green Lantern... *refused to let him get even partial credit on batman comics, to the point that its' a crime to open old comics and you see 'batman created by bob kane'... for decades.

Others have also discovered Bob Kane's history of taking credit for other ghost artists' artwork... and there's even one story of an artist trying to get him to draw one hand at a drawing table, but he gave up and hired and artist to draw the hand for him...

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u/ShaperLord777 May 25 '25

Sad day for the industry. Peter David was a legend. Absolutely defined books like X factor and the Incredible Hulk. I know he’s been having health problems for a while, condolences to his loved ones and family.

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u/ChickenInASuit Drops rec lists at the slightest provocation. May 25 '25 edited May 26 '25

This man contributed so much to comics for so many years and yet his family had to resort to a GoFundMe to aid his failing health. That is about as damning an indictment of both the comics industry and the American healthcare system as I can think of.

RIP to a goddamn legend.

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u/u_touch_my_tra_la_la May 25 '25

Oh, bollocks.

He was my fave writer during the 90s.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '25

Well shoot. One of my all time favorites and a nice guy. I’m glad I got to meet him once at a con and tell him what his work meant to me.

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u/sbingle73 May 25 '25

Big loss for the comic book community.

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u/TheTableDude May 25 '25

At some point in the mid 90's, after not having read a Marvel comic in more than 15 years, I tried to get back in. The X-Men books were their big sellers at the time, so I gave them a go but was never able to get more than a third of the way through any issue because it was all so convoluted that even someone well-versed in how to read superhero comics like me was just confused and bored.

Someone suggest I try a Peter David Hulk. I'd always liked but never loved the Hulk and saw that it was the middle a storyline so didn't have much hope but was immediately hooked. Great opening, characters and story clearly but unobtrusively explained for new readers like me, great pacing, the whole shebang. Other than the first time I read an Alan Moore story, I'm not sure I can recall ever being so impressed by my first exposure to a writer. PD was sort of the platonic ideal of how to write superhero comics.

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u/PrincipleNo3966 May 26 '25

My first PAD Hulk was #391 part 2 of " War & Pieces".

The story, dialogue & art had me hooked and I remained all the way to the end of his run with #467.

I got hooked on PAD's X-Factor because of that Hulk crossover. XF #87 remains one of my favorite single issues to this day.

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u/0kafaraqgatri0 May 25 '25

May his memory be a blessing.

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u/jedimadrox May 25 '25

wow may he RIP sad day for comics :-(

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u/Jonesjonesboy May 25 '25

One of the best meat-and-potatoes superhero writers

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u/BoringTacoEater666 May 25 '25

Nooo. I love his spider-man 2077 and Miguel. Rip.

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u/ImaginaryValue1679 May 25 '25

Rip to a legend you will be missed Peter David

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u/VoidWalker72 May 25 '25

My father collected a lot of his work, especially his Hulk runs. He and his writing will be missed.

I've been following his GoFundMe for a while. Hope he is finally at peace. My condolences to his family.

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u/Trike117 May 26 '25

Peter David was one of the good guys. RIP

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u/RYzaMc May 26 '25

Peter, I loved reading your Incredible Hulk in my early 20s. Still have all my single issues of them and they are treasured. You will be missed mate, A fan from Australia 🫡

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u/Cipherpunkblue May 26 '25

Such a fucking waste.

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u/Paganhellbily666 May 27 '25

I just got his autograph on a supergirl tpb this year. Damn, this sucks

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u/PuzzleheadedEye7316 Jun 24 '25

RIP Peter David……Hearts thoughts prayers and condolences to family and friends……🙏🙏