r/guns • u/kappi1997 • 13h ago
What Pistol with Decocker for IWB Holster?
I'm looking for a pistol to use with an IWB holster, so I'd prefer something compact rather than a full sized behemoth. For safety reasons, a decocker is a must for me.
I've already handled the following pistols, but neither was a good fit for me:
- CZ P-07: The slide release was difficult for me to reach.
- Beretta 92FS Compact: I couldn't get a secure grip on the pistol, and reaching the magazine release was awkward.
Control wise the Walther PDP hunter pro would be a great fit but no decocker since striker fired.
The possibility of mounting a red dot would be a plus but not a must
Thank you in Advance
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u/acarr160 12h ago
Berreta PX4. I believe they have a compact and sub compact option. I haven’t used one.
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u/kappi1997 12h ago
How can I see if it has the decocker? The shops only list F type safety
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u/The_Music_Director 12h ago
The type F is a safety and decocker. Flip down once to decock it and put on safety, then flip back up and it stays decocked but is ready to fire.
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u/Thoraxe474 Super Interested in Dicks 10h ago
Subcompact doesn't have the rotating barrel so it isn't worth buying
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u/MoroseBizarro 11h ago
No mention of the P-01? That's the one I want. Soon...soon.
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u/kappi1997 11h ago
On the images it looks quite chunky or does it just look like that
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u/elpokonino 11h ago
Feels great, about the same size as a glock 19 but doesn't feel like holding a Lego (said by a guy who EDC's a glock 19).
Id also recommend the sig p229 series. I would carry my p229 over my PO1, and did for about 5 years. A good IWB holster makes all the difference.
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u/jtsuperduper Super Interested in Dicks 1h ago
Of all the words I could use to describe the P-01, chunky is definitely not one of them.
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u/the_chazzy_bear 7h ago
CZ really owns this game for this type of pistol. Pick any of their lineup and you’ll have a good rig. You can also just carry strong side and negate the risk all together lol. Strong side and appendix will be pretty close to the same speed and your amount of practice will limit you more than the position you carry.
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u/urbanhillbilly313 13h ago
If you're OK with 380, the beretta 80x is an option. I don't own one and can't speak to it's reliability. I have a Walther pd380 and it has a decocker. It's been reliable for me, but everyone else who has fired mine has had malfunctions.
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u/Level_Reveal7624 12h ago
You can also get surplus 84s for around $300
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u/kappi1997 12h ago
Honestly I wnt a new one to make sure it works reliable for as long as possible. It is not like money isn't a limit but since it will not be a collector piece I will go new or like new
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u/kappi1997 13h ago
I mean 9mm is preferred but I will put it on the list to look for in a store to take it into my hands. It looks similar to the 92fs compact but I will give it a try
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u/HaydenMackay 12h ago
Similar. But smaller in every direction. And a completely different safety, frame mounted rather than slider mounted
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u/millenialshooter83 13h ago
P2000SK if you can find one...they've been discontinued for almost a year maybe.
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u/kappi1997 13h ago
Not so sure if I should go with a discontinued gun due to spare part availability
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u/Agent_1812 13h ago
IWB and decocker in one sentence. LOL
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u/kappi1997 13h ago
I had to hold back not to make a joke about ut yes 😜.
I want a decocker so the gun doesn't decock me
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u/LifeAdhesiveness8071 13h ago
How about a CZ Nocturne?
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u/kappi1997 12h ago
It looks like the nocturne has a bigger slide release then the normal p07/ p09 I'll give it a try
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u/Past_Service_6283 12h ago
It’s a bit bigger than some other options but I wouldn’t forget abt the p229 my dad has had one iwb for the last 20 years now
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u/aceofspades1217 12h ago edited 12h ago
If you want a cheap pistol in a p-07 size you could just pick up a S&W 915 or 910 they are actually really light weight being aluminum and have a decocker at 4 inches they decently compact
But honestly for what you are looking for you should look a little harder at striker fired
I love DA/SA but a striker fired is superior for that use case. It’s like choosing between an Hybrid and a gas car with auto stop start and brake hold
I like DA SA for idpa, shooting at the range etc but a striker fired is much more ideal for IWB
Having a decocker, hammer, etc is a huge negative for
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u/kappi1997 11h ago
I get that having a decocked gun makes you slower in the pull but I wouldn't feel save with one in the chamber and the stricker ready. So my options are empty chamber or decocked
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u/aceofspades1217 11h ago
There is plenty of stiker fired guns with slide safeties like my Taurus gc3
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u/kappi1997 11h ago
MöI mean honestly I don't see how I'm faster having to remove a safety then haven a DA trigger
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u/aceofspades1217 10h ago
That’s true just saying even with a striker you don’t need to carry unloaded
But yeah your best bet is a DA SA that has a hidden hammer
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u/SLW_STDY_SQZ 11h ago
3rd gen SW 69* models might fit the bill too. I carry one sometimes.
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u/aceofspades1217 11h ago
Yeah the 6906 is the aluminum version
915 and the 6906 are basically the same except the 6906 has a ambidextrous safety and Novak style sights
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u/SLW_STDY_SQZ 11h ago
Look at Bersa TPR9C. I hear they're chunky tho.
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u/kappi1997 11h ago
By the name kinda expected a turkish brand but it is from argentinia. Never heard of them but will look for one to get a touch and feel
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u/Public_Narwhal4748 6h ago
P99 has a better single action than the pdp.
Canik stole the walther trigger.
P99 is the best da/sa deco clef to never get long term love.
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u/Seldon14 4h ago
If you otherwise like the P07 just got with that. The slide stop lever is superfluous. Just sling shot to drop the slide.
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u/pestilence 14 | The only good mod 13h ago
What is the difference between a DA pistol that was cocked and then decocked and a striker fired pistol that was never fully cocked in the first place, other than the manual placebo?
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u/kappi1997 13h ago
I'm not sure if I fully understand your statement. You mean a DA only striker fired pistole? I mean a glock for example is SA only as far as I understand.
I'm okey with a striker if the trigger pull is the same as with a decocked hammer fired
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u/pestilence 14 | The only good mod 9h ago
I mean most striker fired handguns, including Glocks, are not normally fully cocked until you complete pulling the trigger, just like a DA pistol. So, just like a DA pistol, the only way to make it go bang is to pull the trigger.
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u/kappi1997 9h ago
Last striker fired gun I shot was a glock 21 and the trigger weight is around the same as on my cz75 p09 when the hammer is cocked.
So are you saying modern striker pistols have a similar trigger weight as a decocked hammer fired gun?
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u/pestilence 14 | The only good mod 9h ago
No. If you want to know what I'm saying, you can read my words. Why are you so concerned with trigger pull weight? Do you plan to shove your hand into your holster and diddle the trigger when you're bored?
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u/kappi1997 9h ago
Not really no. As I said I'm not judging people if they feel safe carying like that. I just don't and knowing that it at least takes quite a bit of force to set the trigger of makes me feel more safe
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u/FiresprayClass Services His Majesty 9h ago
I mean a glock for example is SA only as far as I understand.
How is that your understanding in the Year of Our Lord Two Thousand and Twenty Six? Have you deliberately avoided even the most basic understanding of modern handguns on purpose? The supermajority of striker fired handguns available today are, like Glock, partially preset strikers, meaning they are from a safety perspective acting like they are double action with a somewhat shorter and lighter trigger pull, not like a single action. Add the trigger safety and firing pin block and it's difficult to see why exactly you think they are some unacceptable danger.
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u/kappi1997 9h ago
I'm not saying it is unnacceptable unsafe I just don't feel safe with a Trigger that goes as light as your average striker or cocked hammer.
I know there is a trigger safety but I still don't feel safe and in the end everyone needs to use what works best for them and feels safe for them
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u/MrNiceGuyPartySupply 12h ago
I love my HK P30sk