Hulk shows his humility and helps Jubilee become stronger and stop just setting off fireworks.

[u/Due-Bodybuilder8040]

[u/pbjWilks]

This isn't the Hulk.

This the Eldest.

[u/Botherguts → u/pbjWilks]

Feels like we haven’t seen Hulk in a (too) long time.

[u/pbjWilks → u/Botherguts]

EXAAAAAACTLY!

It's been almost a year of this crap. If not for miniseries and non-canon stuff, we haven't seen the Hulk in a long time doing ANYTHING.

[u/EuropeanT-Shirt → u/pbjWilks]

We have too many story arcs that are supposed to be big deals, that are noncannonical waste.

TOAA being involved, a whole state being transformed, etc etc should make this event bigger and actually have meaning or something lasting.

Just like DNX, Queen in Black, etc, these stories arent that thought out and reaches limited audiences.

[u/Narynan → u/pbjWilks]

Than wh y does it say HULK on the cover? Why do you keep reading this garbage?

Oh....cause, while I don't like it, this IS hulk

[u/pbjWilks → u/Narynan]

I'm NOT reading it lmao.

If you were actually reading it, that's not the actual Hulk.

It's his body being piloted. Smh.

[u/Due-Bodybuilder8040 → u/pbjWilks]

No, Eldest no longer exists, as Hulk 2023 30 himself says, only Hulk exists. 

[u/pbjWilks → u/Due-Bodybuilder8040]

This a joke right?

[u/Due-Bodybuilder8040 → u/pbjWilks]

It's literally in the comic book I mentioned, have you read it? 

[u/XpRienzo → u/Due-Bodybuilder8040]

Do you know who these characters are?

[u/Critical-Constructs → u/Due-Bodybuilder8040]

I don’t think you read the comic. Soon as she steals Hulk’s body, she opens the sealed door and says
“I’ve done it mother, I’ve come.”
Refers to mother of horrors numerous times as Mother. She also states,
“It’s me your Eldest. I found you.”
“I am your Eldest.”
This is the same character as Infernal Hulk just moments prior to eating mother of Horrors which doesn’t change the character inhabiting the body. It only alters the body being inhabited.

Not once does the comic say “ELDEST no longer exists.” As you claim. However it does say “mother of horrors no longer exists.”
“Only Hulk.” Is a catchy tag line referring to the amalgamated abomination that is “infernal hulk.”

We also know that there is no Hulk without banner and no banner without hulk. And in issue 1 she states “there is no banner here.”

In issue 1 she also states
“I summon the living city of gologothia.”
“I once summoned you to the bright towers of Nineveh.”
“I now raise you from the mountain tomb of Urdu.”

As we know none of which hulk has done. And following that she states the following.

“The mother of horrors is dead. The Eldest lives. Obey me.”

She also speaks in the same text box color as eldest and not Hulk.

There’s about 1 million more examples I could give why this is NOT Hulk.

[u/BalladOfBetaRayBill]

Haven’t they scaled up her powers like this for decades at this point? Pretty sure they said she could basically make nuclear blasts a long time ago

[u/Arkham8 → u/BalladOfBetaRayBill]

Jubes blew up a mansion very early on, so while she’s definitely been scaled I feel like it’s always kinda been there.

[u/Atoms_Work → u/BalladOfBetaRayBill]

Yes they did.

[u/testthrowaway9 → u/BalladOfBetaRayBill]

Yup. The fans remember. The comics remember as needed

[u/DoeJrPuck]

Gotta be honest "Hero drops in, gets one line of dialog, is then turned into a monster with 0 fight" is starting to annoy me. What is even the point of this run?

[u/MankuyRLaffy → u/DoeJrPuck]

The point is Hulk but not actually Hulk beats everyone without a struggle. This is what people who don't read things like the David run think the Hulk is.

[u/Kurolegacy27 → u/MankuyRLaffy]

This whole story really is the trope Boringly Invincible Villain

[u/OverlordIllithid → u/MankuyRLaffy]

So you're just Ignoring the Infernal Hulk being carved up by Wolverine.....in the very same issue this scene happened in......or When the TOBA Avatar destroyed his jaw.

[u/MankuyRLaffy → u/OverlordIllithid]

They're going to get jobbed out twice as much because now they're going to be lackeys for the bad guy and also lose, so what's the fucking point?

[u/OverlordIllithid → u/MankuyRLaffy]

The point is telling a story, and showing the corrupted version of the ideals heroes and Villains strive for, in this same book The Angler formerly Jubilee torments Logan because of the pain he inflicted on to her.

[u/MankuyRLaffy → u/OverlordIllithid]

I would want to see that done in their own ongoing series so we can actually go into depth on that, there isn't enough substance as it's written in this run.

[u/OverlordIllithid → u/MankuyRLaffy]

Their own ongoing series don't give a crap about Jubilee, and if it's not Logan + Jean Romance or Logan + trauma they don't really care about wolverine usually, Infernal Hulk's interactions with the X-Men is an incredible step up from Age of Revelation and that weird Jail run they did recently.

[u/Smart_Structure_3139 → u/DoeJrPuck]

The point is to give the eldest as many corrupted superheroes as possible so that Hulk war can have the real Hulk taking them down

[u/bigscrewLoose]

she could already do more than fireworks. as both a hulk fan and a X-men fan one of the things that annoys me most about hulk only fans, and this sub as a whole, is how you mf constantly feel the need to disrespect other characters despite knowing jack shit about them....

[u/BalladOfBetaRayBill → u/bigscrewLoose]

  hulk only fans

👀 

Lol but for real I agree. I think a lot of our fellow Hulk fans are mostly interested in powerscaling and not actually interested in character or storytelling. I see so much Hulk content about him “humbling” some other hero and it just feels like such a flattening of his character. Like here’s a guy whose main form is a baby in an monster body who is also kinda Oppenheimer and also a survivor of parental abuse, but all we can think about is who would win if he rematched the Sentry.

[u/MankuyRLaffy → u/BalladOfBetaRayBill]

This is who PKJ is writing for btw and they think it's great.

[u/Critical-Constructs → u/MankuyRLaffy]

We do not think PKJ’s run is great lol. Loud/vocal minority making that opinion seem more common than it is.

[u/bigscrewLoose → u/MankuyRLaffy]

which is why I don't like this run very much, though it does have some cool moments, like this one

[u/bonesNrice → u/bigscrewLoose]

The title is sarcasm

[u/bigscrewLoose → u/bigscrewLoose]

the fact you goobers did not know seemingly that this new form is based on what she could already do when pushed to her limit annoys me, cuz its actually pretty cool, but none of yall seemingly understand why

[u/Due-Bodybuilder8040 → u/bigscrewLoose]

The son wants to buy atomic bombs from the universe. 🙏😭

[u/MrNigerianPrince115]

And with this new gift she molests Logans psyche

[u/Fluffy-Use9563]

Hulk turn her into a ctan

[u/TheAntipartisan_01 → u/Fluffy-Use9563]

Fellow man of culture, well met! The Emperor Protects!

[u/OverlordIllithid]

The Eldest raising characters up, truly a visionary and talent scout.

[u/igneousrox]

Baby you're a firework

[u/Sea-Foundation5036]

Jubilee could definitely stop the Hulk if she ever focused on learning how to use her powers. Instead of becoming an Omega Level Mutant she's instead (lost her powers, been a vampire, and been a single mom.)

[u/MarkBMG]

Yeah, Eldest puppeteering Hulk's dead body sure did. God this run is so bland.

[u/TheDeadmoss_Reddit]

What comic is this?

https://giphy.com/gifs/J5zWf25lhLVOblgNjG

[u/SovFist → u/TheDeadmoss_Reddit]

Infernal Hulk vs Wolverine.
Infernal Hulk is getting a series of one shots, vs Wolverine, Fantastic Four, Spider-man, and Avengers, before it gets its own "big" event tie in series, Hulk War.

[u/thefriendlyguy3658]

What did we expect julibee ain't stopping the hulk

[u/Particular_Spray3480]

wym "hulk shows his humility" thats not the "hulk" just his body

[u/Dangerous-Stage7357]

Does Jubilee die here or no?

[u/itachicrow2099]

Awesome run , cant wait for Bruce to face the eldest and her infernal avengers .

[u/Sol_System209]

What just happend?

[u/LGodamus → u/Sol_System209]

Nothing, just like the rest of this series.

[u/Normal_Sweet_2974 → u/Sol_System209]

A bunch of nothing the art is soo hard to make out wtf going on